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It appears an IP is very insistent on changing Joe Tate's name within the article (also adding an uncredited middle name), so I'm opening this discussion to gain consensus on what it should be. The character is credited as Joe Tate in the show's closing credits, and various magazine cast lists (Radio Times, Inside Soap, Soaplife). From a quick Google hits search I did earlier, it seems Joe is his WP:COMMONAME, and the hits box seems to agree. - JuneGloom07 Talk 01:30, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Source | Joseph | Joe |
---|---|---|
Google (with Emmerdale) | 178,000 | 365,000 |
Google News | 7,170 | 8,870 |
HighBeam | 23 | 117 |
Radio Times | 0 | 11 |
Digital Spy | 16 | 42 |
I would agree with the name being Joseph Tate. I've watched all the episodes of Emmerdale so I'm going with the facts. The character Joseph Tate was born on-screen on 8 June 1995 and named Joseph Mark Tate after his mother's stepfather Joseph Sugden (who had just recently died in a car crash) and her brother Mark Hughes (who died during the 1993 Emmerdale plane crash), it's mentioned in the article. No one is disputing the fact that he is popularly known as and mostly called Joe Tate, (he is sometimes referred to as Joseph Tate) and credited as Joe Tate on the show but even the character revealed himself to be Joseph Tate when he revealed his identity on 4 January 2018. Ned Porteous who plays the part of Joseph Tate is credited as Joseph Tate on both his Wikipedia ( /info/en/?search=Ned_Porteous) and IMDB ( https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7504614/) pages. The character is also referred to as Joseph Tate on the official Emmerdale Website ( http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/tom), the official Emmerdale Twitter account (here is an instance; https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/1006240113817522187) and the official Emmerdale Facebook account (here is an instance; https://www.facebook.com/emmerdale/photos/a.165828538848.145594.117443273848/10157908955453849/?type=1&theater). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.250.99 ( talk) 07:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Not just three sites, three official sites and it's not just once, I was giving an instance. On the official Emmerdale Website, you can't refer to that as once as it's the character's official page where all the posts concerning his character are posted. If you follow the link ( http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/tom) and scroll down, the character is tagged as Joseph Tate in every post. On the official Emmerdale Twitter and Facebook Accounts, I have yet to see an official post that refers to the character as Joe but I can show you instances where the character has been referred to as Joseph. They are from Twitter but the same posts are on Facebook as well, here they are; -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/1006599513233022976). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/1000285411040735232). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/993218845740482561). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/993555564113416192). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/999734063752761344). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992470916243177473). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/999731136929714177). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992399188070629376). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/999719711771447297). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992395684136570881). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/999682735588421632). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992122592860483585). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/998989368760193024). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992108655150542849). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/998956654262550528). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992107018981961731). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/995664964483469312). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992105508860452864). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/994656599129165825). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992091370163752960). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/991744127841677312). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/981236389210603520). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/991382746659516417). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/980872491613569024). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/984856744810528768). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/980869974737633282). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/981990318999515136). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/979787846931361792). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/981989497985486848). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/978698689161125890).
These four tweets however I find particularly interesting, in these three tweets, he's clearly referred to as Joseph Tate by the Emmerdale Team ( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/989932692455161856, https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/980873500167729153, https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/979783063440945152) and in the last tweet, not only is he referred to as Joseph in the tweet but if you watch the video attached, at the 0:08 mark, the character is tagged as Joseph Tate ( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/991692202656124928). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.250.99 ( talk) 18:41, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
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It appears an IP is very insistent on changing Joe Tate's name within the article (also adding an uncredited middle name), so I'm opening this discussion to gain consensus on what it should be. The character is credited as Joe Tate in the show's closing credits, and various magazine cast lists (Radio Times, Inside Soap, Soaplife). From a quick Google hits search I did earlier, it seems Joe is his WP:COMMONAME, and the hits box seems to agree. - JuneGloom07 Talk 01:30, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Source | Joseph | Joe |
---|---|---|
Google (with Emmerdale) | 178,000 | 365,000 |
Google News | 7,170 | 8,870 |
HighBeam | 23 | 117 |
Radio Times | 0 | 11 |
Digital Spy | 16 | 42 |
I would agree with the name being Joseph Tate. I've watched all the episodes of Emmerdale so I'm going with the facts. The character Joseph Tate was born on-screen on 8 June 1995 and named Joseph Mark Tate after his mother's stepfather Joseph Sugden (who had just recently died in a car crash) and her brother Mark Hughes (who died during the 1993 Emmerdale plane crash), it's mentioned in the article. No one is disputing the fact that he is popularly known as and mostly called Joe Tate, (he is sometimes referred to as Joseph Tate) and credited as Joe Tate on the show but even the character revealed himself to be Joseph Tate when he revealed his identity on 4 January 2018. Ned Porteous who plays the part of Joseph Tate is credited as Joseph Tate on both his Wikipedia ( /info/en/?search=Ned_Porteous) and IMDB ( https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7504614/) pages. The character is also referred to as Joseph Tate on the official Emmerdale Website ( http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/tom), the official Emmerdale Twitter account (here is an instance; https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/1006240113817522187) and the official Emmerdale Facebook account (here is an instance; https://www.facebook.com/emmerdale/photos/a.165828538848.145594.117443273848/10157908955453849/?type=1&theater). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.250.99 ( talk) 07:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Not just three sites, three official sites and it's not just once, I was giving an instance. On the official Emmerdale Website, you can't refer to that as once as it's the character's official page where all the posts concerning his character are posted. If you follow the link ( http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/tom) and scroll down, the character is tagged as Joseph Tate in every post. On the official Emmerdale Twitter and Facebook Accounts, I have yet to see an official post that refers to the character as Joe but I can show you instances where the character has been referred to as Joseph. They are from Twitter but the same posts are on Facebook as well, here they are; -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/1006599513233022976). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/1000285411040735232). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/993218845740482561). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/993555564113416192). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/999734063752761344). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992470916243177473). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/999731136929714177). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992399188070629376). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/999719711771447297). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992395684136570881). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/999682735588421632). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992122592860483585). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/998989368760193024). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992108655150542849). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/998956654262550528). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992107018981961731). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/995664964483469312). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992105508860452864). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/994656599129165825). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/992091370163752960). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/991744127841677312). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/981236389210603520). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/991382746659516417). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/980872491613569024). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/984856744810528768). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/980869974737633282). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/981990318999515136). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/979787846931361792). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/981989497985486848). -( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/978698689161125890).
These four tweets however I find particularly interesting, in these three tweets, he's clearly referred to as Joseph Tate by the Emmerdale Team ( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/989932692455161856, https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/980873500167729153, https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/979783063440945152) and in the last tweet, not only is he referred to as Joseph in the tweet but if you watch the video attached, at the 0:08 mark, the character is tagged as Joseph Tate ( https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/991692202656124928). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.250.99 ( talk) 18:41, 20 June 2018 (UTC)