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What do the columns F, A stand for? -- Boguslav ( talk) 01:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
And do the 'Matches include domestic cups and European competions?-- Boguslav ( talk) 01:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
For the anonymous editor(s) who keep changing the career stats of Mourinho and Grant, please cite a source. Per Soccerbase ( here and here) the current ones are correct. SteveO ( talk) 02:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
They are not ALWAYS officially recorded as draws because websites such as the BBC record a penalty shootout as either a win or a loss under a manager's profile. After all, a loss on penalties is still a loss. Logically, if Chelsea had "drawn" with Manchester United in the UEFA Champions League Final, then how come there was an "official" victor? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.0.22 ( talk) 01:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Even though a penalty shootout does not change the final score, it does change the final result. In a cup competition, the winners progress and the losers do not. Sometimes, a penalty shootout is required to figure out who the winners and losers are. For example, in an FA Cup semi-final, even if the match ends in a "draw", only ONE team progresses while the other one goes home. Surely, you can not call this a draw. A draw occurs when absolutely NOTHING is able to separate the competitors. In this case, there is something that separates them and it's the penalty shootout. Just beacuse FIFA and UEFA "officially" record them as draws does not mean that Wikipedia and every other website in the world should do the same. We'll only be fooling ourselves as well as the readers by changing a loss into an "official draw". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.0.22 ( talk) 23:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
"For added confusion, what happens when a team wins after 120 minutes to finish level on aggregate and then loses the shoot-out." This is something I never thought of and I must say I can not argue against it. Therefore, I'll fix the career stats of Mourinho and Grant. On a side note, how come John Hollins is not mentioned in the Notable Managers section on the Chelsea F.C. page? He did win a Full Members Cup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.0.22 ( talk) 01:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd like that, just make sure you also include the Full Members Cup that Bobby Campbell won. Thank you for your contribution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.0.22 ( talk) 01:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Can I please add a column for "reason for departure". The number of coaches who got sacked in Chelsea is hilariously significant since the beginning of Abromovich era.
The column would be filled with end of contract, death or sacked depending on how they departed. 2001:8F8:1129:F922:C8E9:5535:5163:B475 ( talk) 21:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be very interesting to add a column for league position when being sacked? 2A02:8071:18B:EEC0:F67E:83E:A2A4:808E ( talk) 11:23, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
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What do the columns F, A stand for? -- Boguslav ( talk) 01:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
And do the 'Matches include domestic cups and European competions?-- Boguslav ( talk) 01:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
For the anonymous editor(s) who keep changing the career stats of Mourinho and Grant, please cite a source. Per Soccerbase ( here and here) the current ones are correct. SteveO ( talk) 02:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
They are not ALWAYS officially recorded as draws because websites such as the BBC record a penalty shootout as either a win or a loss under a manager's profile. After all, a loss on penalties is still a loss. Logically, if Chelsea had "drawn" with Manchester United in the UEFA Champions League Final, then how come there was an "official" victor? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.0.22 ( talk) 01:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Even though a penalty shootout does not change the final score, it does change the final result. In a cup competition, the winners progress and the losers do not. Sometimes, a penalty shootout is required to figure out who the winners and losers are. For example, in an FA Cup semi-final, even if the match ends in a "draw", only ONE team progresses while the other one goes home. Surely, you can not call this a draw. A draw occurs when absolutely NOTHING is able to separate the competitors. In this case, there is something that separates them and it's the penalty shootout. Just beacuse FIFA and UEFA "officially" record them as draws does not mean that Wikipedia and every other website in the world should do the same. We'll only be fooling ourselves as well as the readers by changing a loss into an "official draw". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.0.22 ( talk) 23:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
"For added confusion, what happens when a team wins after 120 minutes to finish level on aggregate and then loses the shoot-out." This is something I never thought of and I must say I can not argue against it. Therefore, I'll fix the career stats of Mourinho and Grant. On a side note, how come John Hollins is not mentioned in the Notable Managers section on the Chelsea F.C. page? He did win a Full Members Cup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.0.22 ( talk) 01:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd like that, just make sure you also include the Full Members Cup that Bobby Campbell won. Thank you for your contribution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.0.22 ( talk) 01:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Can I please add a column for "reason for departure". The number of coaches who got sacked in Chelsea is hilariously significant since the beginning of Abromovich era.
The column would be filled with end of contract, death or sacked depending on how they departed. 2001:8F8:1129:F922:C8E9:5535:5163:B475 ( talk) 21:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be very interesting to add a column for league position when being sacked? 2A02:8071:18B:EEC0:F67E:83E:A2A4:808E ( talk) 11:23, 27 February 2023 (UTC)