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I've discovered that the verbal commentary on the various gods is reproduced verbatim from http://www.paralumun.com/celticgod.htm . I'm therefore cutting it as copyright violation; it was going to be a nightmare to have to verify and wikify the material anyway. I'll also move this article from Celtic gods to 'list of', since that's basically what we'll be left with. Quartier Latin1968 17:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
No great loss, since that is just one of many terse, unreferenced and error prone deity lists floating around the Web. They tend to get copied over and over, accreting both new material and new errors. They are usualy copyvios themselves.
I prefer instead to work from the detailed to the general - start with individual deity pages, make each one list the actual evidence (epigraphc, archaeological, literary) for each one, and include them in a category such as Category:Ancient Gaulish and British goddesses or [:Category:Ancient Gaulish and British gods]]. -- Nantonos 19:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, now that there are a significant number of citations, I wonder if this page can move back to Celtic gods? Anyone have an opinion? 66.189.247.72 ( talk) 02:24, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
It could be said that the only well-attested to instances of ANY known non-christian "deities" worshipped by the Irish/ Welsh/ Scottish/ British, etc. are those named in inscriptions on Romano-Celtic altars. I have left reminders on this elsewhere on Wikipedia discussion pages and so it seems especially appropriate here. I would like to see some serious discussion on the merit of the near universal custom of elevating to god/goddesshood virtually any of the primary characters in the stories of the so-called "Celtic" corpus. Related articles could start responding to this issue by briefly (-somehow?) defining their usage of the terms "gods" and "celtic". Earrach ( talk) 16:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
"Debranua, a goddess of speed and fat"... Really? As far as I can tell, this comes from a roleplaying game. Unless anyone can find an authentic reference for it, I suggest this is removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DomWalsh ( talk • contribs) 15:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
I found this about Debranua, but I wasn't the creator of this page so I don't know where he or she got his or her citations from. http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/names/celticdeities.htm 66.189.247.72 ( talk) 02:30, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
There needs to be an English Wikipedia article on Domnu. There already is an article on her in a different language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.247.72 ( talk) 02:13, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I have painstakingly added citations to the article. Can someone remove the template saying the article needs additional citations for verification? Most of the deities now have citations, although there are still some missing. If you can help, that would be great. Kspecific2011 ( talk) 01:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC) > it does need additional citations, the one for the Pictish deities links to a (neo-pagan) site explicitly about Gaelic deities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:FD1D:F700:5811:A9AF:9FA1:481C ( talk) 00:53, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Is it just me or are deities later added to the Celtic pantheon from other cultures not included? For example Eostre was added to the Celtic pantheon, but she's not included in the list. Cybele was an Anatolian goddess added to the Galatian pantheon, but she's not included either. Gog and Magog are originally from the bible and they're not included in the list. Should the article stay this way? What are your thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kspecific2011 ( talk • contribs) 02:54, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Also, the German Wikipedia lists Cú Chulainn and Cormac mac Airt as gods. These are not gods! They are mortal heroes. If a god has a child with a mortal, their offspring are mortal. I have kept mortal demigods/heroes off the list. Kspecific2011 ( talk) 19:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
We have now reached 1170 entries! We have 572 male entries and 598 female entries (643 female deities including triads). We have a total of 1215 deities on the list! Kspecific2011 ( talk) 22:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Deities that can easily be sourced to the manuscripts have been sourced to things like amateur websites with zero sourcing; occult books that also have no reliable sourcing for the existence of these deities, merely a passing mention; a PDF that has a list of mediocre sources at the end but zero inline sourcing for the individual deities; newage meditation books with no connection to Celtic cultures; and even works of fiction. And this article/list has been a dumping ground for WP:CITESPAM. Long-overdue cleanup underway. If I accidentally cut something that good sourcing is available for, please add good sourcing when you put it in. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 19:43, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Question: As so many of these sources are crap, might we save ourselves a bunch of work by finding an earlier version to revert to? As in, MUCH earlier? I've added some text, but... I'm just not sure at this point. Thoughts? - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 21:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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I've discovered that the verbal commentary on the various gods is reproduced verbatim from http://www.paralumun.com/celticgod.htm . I'm therefore cutting it as copyright violation; it was going to be a nightmare to have to verify and wikify the material anyway. I'll also move this article from Celtic gods to 'list of', since that's basically what we'll be left with. Quartier Latin1968 17:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
No great loss, since that is just one of many terse, unreferenced and error prone deity lists floating around the Web. They tend to get copied over and over, accreting both new material and new errors. They are usualy copyvios themselves.
I prefer instead to work from the detailed to the general - start with individual deity pages, make each one list the actual evidence (epigraphc, archaeological, literary) for each one, and include them in a category such as Category:Ancient Gaulish and British goddesses or [:Category:Ancient Gaulish and British gods]]. -- Nantonos 19:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, now that there are a significant number of citations, I wonder if this page can move back to Celtic gods? Anyone have an opinion? 66.189.247.72 ( talk) 02:24, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
It could be said that the only well-attested to instances of ANY known non-christian "deities" worshipped by the Irish/ Welsh/ Scottish/ British, etc. are those named in inscriptions on Romano-Celtic altars. I have left reminders on this elsewhere on Wikipedia discussion pages and so it seems especially appropriate here. I would like to see some serious discussion on the merit of the near universal custom of elevating to god/goddesshood virtually any of the primary characters in the stories of the so-called "Celtic" corpus. Related articles could start responding to this issue by briefly (-somehow?) defining their usage of the terms "gods" and "celtic". Earrach ( talk) 16:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
"Debranua, a goddess of speed and fat"... Really? As far as I can tell, this comes from a roleplaying game. Unless anyone can find an authentic reference for it, I suggest this is removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DomWalsh ( talk • contribs) 15:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
I found this about Debranua, but I wasn't the creator of this page so I don't know where he or she got his or her citations from. http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/names/celticdeities.htm 66.189.247.72 ( talk) 02:30, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
There needs to be an English Wikipedia article on Domnu. There already is an article on her in a different language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.189.247.72 ( talk) 02:13, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Hey, I have painstakingly added citations to the article. Can someone remove the template saying the article needs additional citations for verification? Most of the deities now have citations, although there are still some missing. If you can help, that would be great. Kspecific2011 ( talk) 01:07, 29 March 2018 (UTC) > it does need additional citations, the one for the Pictish deities links to a (neo-pagan) site explicitly about Gaelic deities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:FD1D:F700:5811:A9AF:9FA1:481C ( talk) 00:53, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Is it just me or are deities later added to the Celtic pantheon from other cultures not included? For example Eostre was added to the Celtic pantheon, but she's not included in the list. Cybele was an Anatolian goddess added to the Galatian pantheon, but she's not included either. Gog and Magog are originally from the bible and they're not included in the list. Should the article stay this way? What are your thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kspecific2011 ( talk • contribs) 02:54, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Also, the German Wikipedia lists Cú Chulainn and Cormac mac Airt as gods. These are not gods! They are mortal heroes. If a god has a child with a mortal, their offspring are mortal. I have kept mortal demigods/heroes off the list. Kspecific2011 ( talk) 19:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
We have now reached 1170 entries! We have 572 male entries and 598 female entries (643 female deities including triads). We have a total of 1215 deities on the list! Kspecific2011 ( talk) 22:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Deities that can easily be sourced to the manuscripts have been sourced to things like amateur websites with zero sourcing; occult books that also have no reliable sourcing for the existence of these deities, merely a passing mention; a PDF that has a list of mediocre sources at the end but zero inline sourcing for the individual deities; newage meditation books with no connection to Celtic cultures; and even works of fiction. And this article/list has been a dumping ground for WP:CITESPAM. Long-overdue cleanup underway. If I accidentally cut something that good sourcing is available for, please add good sourcing when you put it in. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 19:43, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Question: As so many of these sources are crap, might we save ourselves a bunch of work by finding an earlier version to revert to? As in, MUCH earlier? I've added some text, but... I'm just not sure at this point. Thoughts? - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 21:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC)