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This page lacks alot of information... Not all Air Navigation Schools are listed and what about the Operational Training Units?
I'm guessing that the North Battleford Service Flying Training School (#32 in the list) was actually the
North Battleford/Hamlin Airport and not
North Battleford (Cameron McIntosh) Airport. Looking at the satellite images, the former has the "runway triangle" while the latter does not. Can someone verify this?
Both of these airfields have a triangle shape, but the "Cameron McIntosh" field has been modified (like
many surviving BCATP airfields were, St. Thomas, Centralia, Brantford, Hamilton, e.g.). My primary authority
for the locations of the airfields given in this article is the Air Navigation chart for the area. I do not have the chart circa WWII for North Battleford, so I decided to accept the existing Wikipedia articles for these two airfields as an authority. My interpretation of the satellite images is that Hamlin was the primary relief field (R1) for North Battleford (Cameron McIntosh). The folks at the Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum in Brandon probably have documentation circa WWII about the location of this airfield. Sorry for the long delay in responding
SteveTheAirman (
talk) 23:49, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
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The following coordinate fixes are needed for
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68.171.231.81 (
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The list of relief landing fields is not complete. Does someone know of a more complete list that we can use as a source? For e.g., Kingston had a field at Sandhurst and Vulcan had relief fields at Champion and Ensign. These aren't listed. BC talk to me 19:17, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
RAF stations (e.g. Kingston, Moose Jaw, Greenwood, De Winton, etc.) were technically not part of the BCATP until 1942. Until then they were just RAF training stations that happened to be located in Canada. It's a bit confusing since many of these stations trained RCAF personnel (e.g Kingston) for the BCATP and RAF trainees were often trained by RCAF contractors (e.g De Winton). Hatch, pg 68 mentions that these transferred schools were, however, subject to RCAF administrative and operational control. So, the RCAF had some say in how the RAF stations were operated. Hatch goes on to say that for all practical purposes they formed an extension of the BCATP but were not officially incorporated as part of the Plan until July 1942. Perhaps we should mention the status of these RAF stations and explain why they are listed as BCATP facilities (because they really weren't Plan facilities until '42). BC talk to me 00:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I have done a few things on this page and I believe that we need to do more.
I am sure I will come up with some other ideas. Mech1949 ( talk) 18:03, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Aerodrome Name | Province | Type | School | Primary Station |
---|---|---|---|---|
Airdrie | Alberta | R1 | No. 3 SFTS | Calgary |
Aliston | Ontario | R2 | No. 1 SFTS | Camp Borden [1] |
Blackfalds | Alberta | R2 | No. 36 SFTS | Penhold |
Boharm | Saskatchewan | R1 | No. 33 EFTS | Caron [2] |
Burtch | Ontario | R1 | No. 5 SFTS | Brantford and principal field for No. 4 Wireless School Guelph. [3] |
Butress | Saskatchewan | R1 | No. 32 SFTS | Moose Jaw |
Carp | Ontario | R1 | No. 2 SFTS | Ottawa |
Cayuga | Ontario | R1 | No. 16 SFTS | Hagersville [4] |
Champion | Alberta | R2 | No. 19 SFTS | Vulcan [5] |
Chandler | Saskatchewan | Relief | No. 38 SFTS | Estevan [6] |
Chater | Manitoba | R1 | No. 12 SFTS | Brandon [3] |
Douglas | Manitoba | R2 | No.12 SFTS | Brandon [7] |
Chicoutimi | Quebec | R1 | No. 1 OTU | Bagotville |
Dufferin | Ontario | Relief | No. 16 SFTS | Hagersville [4] |
Eden | Manitoba | R1 | No. 35 EFTS | Neepawa [8] |
Edenvale | Ontario | R1 | No. 1 SFTS | Camp Borden |
Edwards | Ontario | Relief | No. 2 SFTS | Ottawa [9] |
Elgin | Manitoba | R2 | No. 17 SFTS | Souris [6] |
Ensign | Alberta | R1 | No. 19 SFTS | Vulcan [5] |
Farnham | Quebec | R2 | No. 13 SFTS | St. Hubert [9] |
Frank Lake | Alberta | Relief | No. 5 EFTS | High River [5] |
Gananoque | Ontario | R1 | No. 31 SFTS | Kingston |
Grand Bend | Ontario | R1 | No. 9 SFTS | Centralia |
Goderich South | Ontario | Relief | No. 12 EFTS | Goderich [4] |
Gladys | Alberta | R2 | No. 31 EFTS | DeWinton [5] |
Granum | Alberta | R1 | No. 7 SFTS | Fort MacLeod |
Halbrite | Saskatchewan | R1 | No. 41 SFTS | Weyburn [10] |
Hamlin | Saskatchewan | R1 | No. 35 SFTS | North Battleford |
Hartney | Manitoba | R1 | No. 17 SFTS | Souris [3] |
Sample of reformatted list vice old formatting, what is everyone's thought? Mech1949 ( talk) 20:05, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
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This page lacks alot of information... Not all Air Navigation Schools are listed and what about the Operational Training Units?
I'm guessing that the North Battleford Service Flying Training School (#32 in the list) was actually the
North Battleford/Hamlin Airport and not
North Battleford (Cameron McIntosh) Airport. Looking at the satellite images, the former has the "runway triangle" while the latter does not. Can someone verify this?
Both of these airfields have a triangle shape, but the "Cameron McIntosh" field has been modified (like
many surviving BCATP airfields were, St. Thomas, Centralia, Brantford, Hamilton, e.g.). My primary authority
for the locations of the airfields given in this article is the Air Navigation chart for the area. I do not have the chart circa WWII for North Battleford, so I decided to accept the existing Wikipedia articles for these two airfields as an authority. My interpretation of the satellite images is that Hamlin was the primary relief field (R1) for North Battleford (Cameron McIntosh). The folks at the Commonwealth Air Training Plan Museum in Brandon probably have documentation circa WWII about the location of this airfield. Sorry for the long delay in responding
SteveTheAirman (
talk) 23:49, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for
—
68.171.231.81 (
talk) 23:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
The list of relief landing fields is not complete. Does someone know of a more complete list that we can use as a source? For e.g., Kingston had a field at Sandhurst and Vulcan had relief fields at Champion and Ensign. These aren't listed. BC talk to me 19:17, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
RAF stations (e.g. Kingston, Moose Jaw, Greenwood, De Winton, etc.) were technically not part of the BCATP until 1942. Until then they were just RAF training stations that happened to be located in Canada. It's a bit confusing since many of these stations trained RCAF personnel (e.g Kingston) for the BCATP and RAF trainees were often trained by RCAF contractors (e.g De Winton). Hatch, pg 68 mentions that these transferred schools were, however, subject to RCAF administrative and operational control. So, the RCAF had some say in how the RAF stations were operated. Hatch goes on to say that for all practical purposes they formed an extension of the BCATP but were not officially incorporated as part of the Plan until July 1942. Perhaps we should mention the status of these RAF stations and explain why they are listed as BCATP facilities (because they really weren't Plan facilities until '42). BC talk to me 00:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I have done a few things on this page and I believe that we need to do more.
I am sure I will come up with some other ideas. Mech1949 ( talk) 18:03, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Aerodrome Name | Province | Type | School | Primary Station |
---|---|---|---|---|
Airdrie | Alberta | R1 | No. 3 SFTS | Calgary |
Aliston | Ontario | R2 | No. 1 SFTS | Camp Borden [1] |
Blackfalds | Alberta | R2 | No. 36 SFTS | Penhold |
Boharm | Saskatchewan | R1 | No. 33 EFTS | Caron [2] |
Burtch | Ontario | R1 | No. 5 SFTS | Brantford and principal field for No. 4 Wireless School Guelph. [3] |
Butress | Saskatchewan | R1 | No. 32 SFTS | Moose Jaw |
Carp | Ontario | R1 | No. 2 SFTS | Ottawa |
Cayuga | Ontario | R1 | No. 16 SFTS | Hagersville [4] |
Champion | Alberta | R2 | No. 19 SFTS | Vulcan [5] |
Chandler | Saskatchewan | Relief | No. 38 SFTS | Estevan [6] |
Chater | Manitoba | R1 | No. 12 SFTS | Brandon [3] |
Douglas | Manitoba | R2 | No.12 SFTS | Brandon [7] |
Chicoutimi | Quebec | R1 | No. 1 OTU | Bagotville |
Dufferin | Ontario | Relief | No. 16 SFTS | Hagersville [4] |
Eden | Manitoba | R1 | No. 35 EFTS | Neepawa [8] |
Edenvale | Ontario | R1 | No. 1 SFTS | Camp Borden |
Edwards | Ontario | Relief | No. 2 SFTS | Ottawa [9] |
Elgin | Manitoba | R2 | No. 17 SFTS | Souris [6] |
Ensign | Alberta | R1 | No. 19 SFTS | Vulcan [5] |
Farnham | Quebec | R2 | No. 13 SFTS | St. Hubert [9] |
Frank Lake | Alberta | Relief | No. 5 EFTS | High River [5] |
Gananoque | Ontario | R1 | No. 31 SFTS | Kingston |
Grand Bend | Ontario | R1 | No. 9 SFTS | Centralia |
Goderich South | Ontario | Relief | No. 12 EFTS | Goderich [4] |
Gladys | Alberta | R2 | No. 31 EFTS | DeWinton [5] |
Granum | Alberta | R1 | No. 7 SFTS | Fort MacLeod |
Halbrite | Saskatchewan | R1 | No. 41 SFTS | Weyburn [10] |
Hamlin | Saskatchewan | R1 | No. 35 SFTS | North Battleford |
Hartney | Manitoba | R1 | No. 17 SFTS | Souris [3] |
Sample of reformatted list vice old formatting, what is everyone's thought? Mech1949 ( talk) 20:05, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
References
Maitland
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).monchist
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).