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Just glancing at this list, a few names (Steven Tyler, Robert Moog, for example) are actually honorary degree recipients and not actual alumni of the college. Although I understand that honorary degrees are obviously a measure of accomplishment, should they be included in this list? Considering that Berklee gives at least two honorary degrees per year, this list could become quite cluttered with names such as Bill Cosby, Paul Simon, Billy Joel, Herbie Hancock, and Phil Ramone, all of whom recieved honorary doctorates but did not actually attend Berklee. IMO, these names should be excluded from the list to avoid confusion between honorary recipients and alumni. — Neil 03:50, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
It seems unlikely that Richie Cole (born July 15, 1983) the football player attended Berkelee along with Richie Cole the alto sax jazz musician, who in fact currently lacks a Wikipedia entry. Also Richie Cole (born Feb 29, 1948) the jazz musician (whose real name is, of course, Richard Cole) should not be confused with Richard Cole (born January 2, 1946) the former Led Zeppelin tour manager. In any case, according to Scott Yanow (see http://www.answers.com/topic/richard-cole), Richie (the alto sax) Cole did not graduate from Berklee, so whether to call him an alumni or not is in question as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DavidJoyner ( talk • contribs) .
As a Berklee attendee/non-graduate myself, I had to listen to my daughter repeating her jazz camp teacher's description of the "Berklee curse--people who graduate aren't successful in the music business." It doesn't help to have this page assert that only people with asterisks did not finish their program. More clarity re who actually did the work and graduated would be helpful in assessing this notion. Perhaps it makes more sense to star the true graduates. It wasn't a perfect place, years ago when I attended, but I got a lot out of the learning and playing experience. One reason people leave is that word gets around that someone's good, and, especially performance program students actually leave to...perform. Ruthgree ( talk) 21:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)RuthGreenwood
How about adding the band name of those in this list that have gained their fame from playing in a band? And maybe adding the genre with some people might be cool. for instance, I mostly look at this list to find new bands/jazz people with proper musical schooling. NJlo 20:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
There is currently a movement to remove lists that do not provide citations to verifiable sources. To protect this list from possible deletion I've included a citation to the official list at the Berklee site and added a ref link to each listing. I've also removed any names that do not have a citation. If anyone feels like a name should be added back, please edit the list and include a citation to a third party non-trivial publication that states that the person is an alumnus. A link to the bio page or band bio page that says they went to Berklee would not be sufficient. Listings that do not include citations will be reverted. — Malber ( talk • contribs) 17:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
A careful reading of Wp:rs#Self-published_sources explains why bio and band bio pages aren't useful citations. And it is important to cite each of these listings otherwise this list could face deletion. — Malber ( talk • contribs) 01:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Some of the names on the Berklee list do not have articles. Should we keep these as redlinks to promote future article building or should we remove the wikilinks per WP:MOS? — Malber ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the name be "List of Berklee College of Music alumni" That sounds much better, and grammatically correct. -- Dan Leveille TALK 10:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
While it's swell to cite a source, if the name isn't in the source, the citation isn't worth a damn. I've just gone through the A's and B's. I took out about a half dozen names. I'm sure there are plenty more. - SummerPhD v2.0 23:23, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
As there hasn't been any meaningful discussion on this, I am using notability as the criterion for inclusion. Spelling it out: To be included in this list, an entry must have a reliable source which states they attended Berklee College of Music and be the subject of an article. Official members (i.e., not touring or session) of a notable band are included (e.g. David Davidson of Revocation (band). - SummerPhD v2.0 16:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
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Just glancing at this list, a few names (Steven Tyler, Robert Moog, for example) are actually honorary degree recipients and not actual alumni of the college. Although I understand that honorary degrees are obviously a measure of accomplishment, should they be included in this list? Considering that Berklee gives at least two honorary degrees per year, this list could become quite cluttered with names such as Bill Cosby, Paul Simon, Billy Joel, Herbie Hancock, and Phil Ramone, all of whom recieved honorary doctorates but did not actually attend Berklee. IMO, these names should be excluded from the list to avoid confusion between honorary recipients and alumni. — Neil 03:50, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
It seems unlikely that Richie Cole (born July 15, 1983) the football player attended Berkelee along with Richie Cole the alto sax jazz musician, who in fact currently lacks a Wikipedia entry. Also Richie Cole (born Feb 29, 1948) the jazz musician (whose real name is, of course, Richard Cole) should not be confused with Richard Cole (born January 2, 1946) the former Led Zeppelin tour manager. In any case, according to Scott Yanow (see http://www.answers.com/topic/richard-cole), Richie (the alto sax) Cole did not graduate from Berklee, so whether to call him an alumni or not is in question as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DavidJoyner ( talk • contribs) .
As a Berklee attendee/non-graduate myself, I had to listen to my daughter repeating her jazz camp teacher's description of the "Berklee curse--people who graduate aren't successful in the music business." It doesn't help to have this page assert that only people with asterisks did not finish their program. More clarity re who actually did the work and graduated would be helpful in assessing this notion. Perhaps it makes more sense to star the true graduates. It wasn't a perfect place, years ago when I attended, but I got a lot out of the learning and playing experience. One reason people leave is that word gets around that someone's good, and, especially performance program students actually leave to...perform. Ruthgree ( talk) 21:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)RuthGreenwood
How about adding the band name of those in this list that have gained their fame from playing in a band? And maybe adding the genre with some people might be cool. for instance, I mostly look at this list to find new bands/jazz people with proper musical schooling. NJlo 20:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
There is currently a movement to remove lists that do not provide citations to verifiable sources. To protect this list from possible deletion I've included a citation to the official list at the Berklee site and added a ref link to each listing. I've also removed any names that do not have a citation. If anyone feels like a name should be added back, please edit the list and include a citation to a third party non-trivial publication that states that the person is an alumnus. A link to the bio page or band bio page that says they went to Berklee would not be sufficient. Listings that do not include citations will be reverted. — Malber ( talk • contribs) 17:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
A careful reading of Wp:rs#Self-published_sources explains why bio and band bio pages aren't useful citations. And it is important to cite each of these listings otherwise this list could face deletion. — Malber ( talk • contribs) 01:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Some of the names on the Berklee list do not have articles. Should we keep these as redlinks to promote future article building or should we remove the wikilinks per WP:MOS? — Malber ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the name be "List of Berklee College of Music alumni" That sounds much better, and grammatically correct. -- Dan Leveille TALK 10:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
While it's swell to cite a source, if the name isn't in the source, the citation isn't worth a damn. I've just gone through the A's and B's. I took out about a half dozen names. I'm sure there are plenty more. - SummerPhD v2.0 23:23, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
As there hasn't been any meaningful discussion on this, I am using notability as the criterion for inclusion. Spelling it out: To be included in this list, an entry must have a reliable source which states they attended Berklee College of Music and be the subject of an article. Official members (i.e., not touring or session) of a notable band are included (e.g. David Davidson of Revocation (band). - SummerPhD v2.0 16:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
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