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The 29-31 July 2004 revision of List of Aragonese monarchs addressed existing inconsistencies in detail and presentation in the list.
This revision has however now been reverted to the previous inconsistent version.
For reference, the revision now exists at User:JohnArmagh/Monarchs of Aragon
-- JohnArmagh 10:15, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Did you actually change anything except for the format? -- apoivre 12:07, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
AFAIK, Louis XIII and Louis XIV were just counts of Barcelona, the kingdom of Aragon, as Valencia and Aran, stayed on Philip IV's side. So it is incorrect to say that they were "kings of Aragon". Cheers, -- 84.56.166.200 07:59, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Surely, I am not sure that giving new numerals to the Spanish Kings after Charles I is the best practice. If I remember right, the legal documents of the era, were they to give any numeral, they followed the Castilian fashion.
This asertion is false.
When Isabella I of Castile died, her daugther Joanna succeded her as Queen of Castile. Ferdinand II was King of the Aragonese Crown territories, and was only King of Castile as a consort of Isabella (while she was alive) or as a regent of Joanna (with the opposition of part of castilian nobilty). Castile and the Crown of Aragon were diferent entities until 1707-1714. Spain was a geographic name, and used to include Portugal. --
Joan sense nick 22:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Almost all kings are written with their English names, it makes sense being the English wikipedia. Yet the Alfons have their names translated to Spanish? Why? Either put his name in English or in Catalan. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't even fit what's written in the article one of the counts of Barcelona, where they are called Alphonse. There's also a Wikipedia article on this name, and it's called Alphons. 83.45.26.37 ( talk) 16:33, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to change the name of the House. See Talk:House_of_Barcelona. -- Enric Naval 17:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the counts have a different article? Since technically they're not monarchs/kings. - Gennarous ( talk) 19:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
The House of Barcelona has always been a condal, and never a royal category, since the House of Aragon always predominated by a marriage contract between Petronila I and Ramón Berenguer, transmitted between the queen and her son, Alfonso II. Therefore the House of Barcelona was integrated forever in the House of Aragon, disappearing from the succession line of the Kingdom and Crown of Aragon. Please correct yourself. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.43.119.56 ( talk) 17:08, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
The column labeled "Name" has name and dates or reign so that is not consistent. There should be 2 columns.
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The 29-31 July 2004 revision of List of Aragonese monarchs addressed existing inconsistencies in detail and presentation in the list.
This revision has however now been reverted to the previous inconsistent version.
For reference, the revision now exists at User:JohnArmagh/Monarchs of Aragon
-- JohnArmagh 10:15, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Did you actually change anything except for the format? -- apoivre 12:07, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
AFAIK, Louis XIII and Louis XIV were just counts of Barcelona, the kingdom of Aragon, as Valencia and Aran, stayed on Philip IV's side. So it is incorrect to say that they were "kings of Aragon". Cheers, -- 84.56.166.200 07:59, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Surely, I am not sure that giving new numerals to the Spanish Kings after Charles I is the best practice. If I remember right, the legal documents of the era, were they to give any numeral, they followed the Castilian fashion.
This asertion is false.
When Isabella I of Castile died, her daugther Joanna succeded her as Queen of Castile. Ferdinand II was King of the Aragonese Crown territories, and was only King of Castile as a consort of Isabella (while she was alive) or as a regent of Joanna (with the opposition of part of castilian nobilty). Castile and the Crown of Aragon were diferent entities until 1707-1714. Spain was a geographic name, and used to include Portugal. --
Joan sense nick 22:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Almost all kings are written with their English names, it makes sense being the English wikipedia. Yet the Alfons have their names translated to Spanish? Why? Either put his name in English or in Catalan. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't even fit what's written in the article one of the counts of Barcelona, where they are called Alphonse. There's also a Wikipedia article on this name, and it's called Alphons. 83.45.26.37 ( talk) 16:33, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to change the name of the House. See Talk:House_of_Barcelona. -- Enric Naval 17:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't the counts have a different article? Since technically they're not monarchs/kings. - Gennarous ( talk) 19:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
The House of Barcelona has always been a condal, and never a royal category, since the House of Aragon always predominated by a marriage contract between Petronila I and Ramón Berenguer, transmitted between the queen and her son, Alfonso II. Therefore the House of Barcelona was integrated forever in the House of Aragon, disappearing from the succession line of the Kingdom and Crown of Aragon. Please correct yourself. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.43.119.56 ( talk) 17:08, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
The column labeled "Name" has name and dates or reign so that is not consistent. There should be 2 columns.