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'Full Metal Planete' game is not a unfinished work. The game is complete and was available on the market with box & manual. I bought one at the time. The distribution was limited to France because of copyright issues. The team (Brainstorm) who had programmed the Apple IIgs version had also programmed the Macintosh port. They asked the right to make sell the Apple IIgs version. The editor agrees but with the restriction that it wil only apply to France.
'Full Metal Planete' is a classic game (like Monopoly) you play on a table with friends. The computer version came later (Atari ST, Amiga, PC), done by Infogrames (French company). They asked Brainstorm (french Apple IIgs / Macintosh programmers : Transprog III, Kangaroo, The Manager...) to port he game on Macintosh. So they have programmed the Macintosh version, and in the same way, they have done the Apple IIgs port. Infogamme didn't asked (or paid) for the IIgs version, but they agree Brainstorm to sell the Apple IIgs version in France.
Olivier
I propose this list is too inclusive by including all Apple II games. The GS was backwards compatible with the earlier II's, so those games would run on the GS, but we already have a list dedicated to all Apple II games. I vote we trim to this list to games that just run on the GS. For regular Apple II games, readers can refer to the other list. Otherwise we'll have duplicated information to maintain. Any objections? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 01:36, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
This is a major change, so I'm discussing it here. I was so inspired by Frεcklεfσσt's tabling the list of Apple II games that I felt the same should be done for the Apple IIGS list. And so, as you can see, I have! It took several days of work (and I'm still not quite yet finished) but felt it's complete enough to replace the existing bullet list.
The table contains the following categories:
I've toyed with the idea of adding a "GS" column for games produced only for or originated on the Apple IIGS (currently that is denoted by a bold [GS] next to the title; I'm thinking of removing that entirely actually) and a column for its licensing status at the time it was published (i.e. commercial, public domain, shareware, freeware) but that may make it look too cluttered and confusing. Also the more added, the smaller the text becomes and harder to read, so sometimes less is better. I scratched the idea of a "notes" or "description" column like the Apple II list, as you can simply click on the game name for the main article, making it a bit redundant. I put the 'year' column in front of 'title', as that's something I find a more interesting and important fact when looking at Apple IIGS games, seeing as so few were published compared to other platforms.
A great deal of the information came from the 'What is the Apple IIGS?' website (thanks Alex!) but not everything contained there is accurate, so I'm trying to clean that up a bit with my own research. If you see any author/publisher or year published inaccuracies, please feel free to correct them!
Also deciding whether to table-ize the Unreleased games list. Did not want to merge it with the main list but perhaps a separate table for that would be in order.
I'm still filling in some of the boxes and tweaking others, plus there's more games missing (mostly shareware titles) so this is still a work in progress. Hope no one minds my jumping ahead with this conversion but feel free to comment or if you think any changes need to be done.-- Apple2gs ( talk) 04:13, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I went ahead and removed the "[GS]" label that denoted a particular game originated on, or was produced only for, the Apple IIGS. In terms of game produced only for the Apple IIGS, I found that really frivolous information, and something every platform has. That just left games originally produced for the GS that were eventually ported to other platforms--an interesting category, but there were so few, it made questionable sense having it stated. There were a total of 6 games that fall under this category: Zany Golf, The Immortal, Xenocide, Keef the Thief, Dream Zone and GATE. And of those, most were little known and forgettable Mac and PC titles (the Naughty Dog titles also made it to the Amiga and Atari ST, but I can't recall them being that popular). Only Sandcastle's Zany Golf and Immortal were significant, so popular in fact they were even ported to game consoles. At least that fact is mentioned in their main articles.
I hope no one objects, though figured I go ahead as I was the one who added those designations there in the first place. I just felt it added clutter and wasn't important enough (also its something that would have eventually required a need to create a new table column for)-- Apple2gs ( talk) 22:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Just want to clarify how you classify games in the list. @Apple2gs you're giving me mixed messages. You say that educational games should not be in the list if they aimed at preschooler. At the same time you say Carmen Sandiego fits the game genre. That doesn't make any sense. How can Carmen Sandiego be more of a game than Reader Rabbit? Only differentiated by age group?
The way I see it, Reader Rabbit fits the genre Game more than a Utility or a Tool or some other miscellaneous genre of Apple II software. All games have objectives and gameplay, something Learning Company software products have. Where exactly would you list the Reader Rabbit games if not the list of games? There are other Educational games too such as Rocky's Boots. Deltasim ( talk) 09:59, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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'Full Metal Planete' game is not a unfinished work. The game is complete and was available on the market with box & manual. I bought one at the time. The distribution was limited to France because of copyright issues. The team (Brainstorm) who had programmed the Apple IIgs version had also programmed the Macintosh port. They asked the right to make sell the Apple IIgs version. The editor agrees but with the restriction that it wil only apply to France.
'Full Metal Planete' is a classic game (like Monopoly) you play on a table with friends. The computer version came later (Atari ST, Amiga, PC), done by Infogrames (French company). They asked Brainstorm (french Apple IIgs / Macintosh programmers : Transprog III, Kangaroo, The Manager...) to port he game on Macintosh. So they have programmed the Macintosh version, and in the same way, they have done the Apple IIgs port. Infogamme didn't asked (or paid) for the IIgs version, but they agree Brainstorm to sell the Apple IIgs version in France.
Olivier
I propose this list is too inclusive by including all Apple II games. The GS was backwards compatible with the earlier II's, so those games would run on the GS, but we already have a list dedicated to all Apple II games. I vote we trim to this list to games that just run on the GS. For regular Apple II games, readers can refer to the other list. Otherwise we'll have duplicated information to maintain. Any objections? — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 01:36, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
This is a major change, so I'm discussing it here. I was so inspired by Frεcklεfσσt's tabling the list of Apple II games that I felt the same should be done for the Apple IIGS list. And so, as you can see, I have! It took several days of work (and I'm still not quite yet finished) but felt it's complete enough to replace the existing bullet list.
The table contains the following categories:
I've toyed with the idea of adding a "GS" column for games produced only for or originated on the Apple IIGS (currently that is denoted by a bold [GS] next to the title; I'm thinking of removing that entirely actually) and a column for its licensing status at the time it was published (i.e. commercial, public domain, shareware, freeware) but that may make it look too cluttered and confusing. Also the more added, the smaller the text becomes and harder to read, so sometimes less is better. I scratched the idea of a "notes" or "description" column like the Apple II list, as you can simply click on the game name for the main article, making it a bit redundant. I put the 'year' column in front of 'title', as that's something I find a more interesting and important fact when looking at Apple IIGS games, seeing as so few were published compared to other platforms.
A great deal of the information came from the 'What is the Apple IIGS?' website (thanks Alex!) but not everything contained there is accurate, so I'm trying to clean that up a bit with my own research. If you see any author/publisher or year published inaccuracies, please feel free to correct them!
Also deciding whether to table-ize the Unreleased games list. Did not want to merge it with the main list but perhaps a separate table for that would be in order.
I'm still filling in some of the boxes and tweaking others, plus there's more games missing (mostly shareware titles) so this is still a work in progress. Hope no one minds my jumping ahead with this conversion but feel free to comment or if you think any changes need to be done.-- Apple2gs ( talk) 04:13, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I went ahead and removed the "[GS]" label that denoted a particular game originated on, or was produced only for, the Apple IIGS. In terms of game produced only for the Apple IIGS, I found that really frivolous information, and something every platform has. That just left games originally produced for the GS that were eventually ported to other platforms--an interesting category, but there were so few, it made questionable sense having it stated. There were a total of 6 games that fall under this category: Zany Golf, The Immortal, Xenocide, Keef the Thief, Dream Zone and GATE. And of those, most were little known and forgettable Mac and PC titles (the Naughty Dog titles also made it to the Amiga and Atari ST, but I can't recall them being that popular). Only Sandcastle's Zany Golf and Immortal were significant, so popular in fact they were even ported to game consoles. At least that fact is mentioned in their main articles.
I hope no one objects, though figured I go ahead as I was the one who added those designations there in the first place. I just felt it added clutter and wasn't important enough (also its something that would have eventually required a need to create a new table column for)-- Apple2gs ( talk) 22:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Just want to clarify how you classify games in the list. @Apple2gs you're giving me mixed messages. You say that educational games should not be in the list if they aimed at preschooler. At the same time you say Carmen Sandiego fits the game genre. That doesn't make any sense. How can Carmen Sandiego be more of a game than Reader Rabbit? Only differentiated by age group?
The way I see it, Reader Rabbit fits the genre Game more than a Utility or a Tool or some other miscellaneous genre of Apple II software. All games have objectives and gameplay, something Learning Company software products have. Where exactly would you list the Reader Rabbit games if not the list of games? There are other Educational games too such as Rocky's Boots. Deltasim ( talk) 09:59, 21 January 2020 (UTC)