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@ BradVesp: Once again, please read WP:DUPLINKS, links to articles should only appear one in an article, and then again in infoboxs or tables, but sill only the first mention there. Secondly, the rowspan formatting is also correct. Please read up on WP:BRD because you are now edit warring. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
inconsistencies, the table was created to conform to what's recommended by the manual of style, again WP:DUPLINKS. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
What issue were these edits supposed to address? Seems like an editor was making random changes because they wanted to without actually improving the article. Splitting the episodes into many rows all with the same link is very unnecessary. - adamstom97 ( talk) 02:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
A few things to point out:
If one reads the policies referenced by WP:DUPLINKS you'll learn that it applies more to the lead to technical articles then to a fantasy or entertainment based one like this. "...Duplicate linking in stand-alone and embedded lists is permissible if it significantly aids the reader. This is most often the case when the list is presenting information that could just as aptly be formatted in a table, and is expected to be parsed for particular bits of data, not read from top to bottom." and from /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#Overlinking "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead."
The bigger issue: the area about ....Ming-Na Wen...."Pilot"....Brett Dalton...."4,722 Hours"... is confusing to look at. I don't know what policy applies to adding a line there common sense? Table formation?
I'm sorry if there's too much confusion. These policies can be a bit much, no? I had time to more thoroughly read the policies; wish more people did. Really, @ Favre1fan93: @ Czello: @ GabberFlasted: the links, are useful and within policy guidelines. My motivation to change it, now, is to point out the previously misconstrued WP:DUPLINKS policy.
Aside that, I think the area about ....Ming-Na Wen...."Pilot"....Brett Dalton...."4,722 Hours"... is problematic; confusing or disorienting. That should have another line added. Then for consistency there should be another line added by the episode separating the characters. BradVesp ( talk) 18:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
"Pilot"cell then all they need to do is look up a three lines to the Coulson row. - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
harmfulbecause you seem to have no regard to the WP:CONSENSUS that exists on this page (and frankly most of Wikipedia) that the episodes should not be linked more than once in the table because of WP:DUPLINKS. Additionally, the fact you continued to edit the article with further adjustments in the face of discussion after being banned for warring on that content, does not look good to other editors who are trying to follow WP:BRD and actually discuss this to see if any new consensus needs to be formed. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:38, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
You all ever see this? Wikipedia:Five_pillars; might supersede WP:DUPLINKS, BRD, and other policy suggestions butthatsjustme, I'vebeenwrongbefore. BradVesp ( talk) 19:55, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
if it significantly aids the reader-- we are saying that it does not in this case. - adamstom97 ( talk) 01:55, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93:, I noticed the link coding changes you made on the source page. When I was adding the link for Fear and Loathing on the Planet of Kitson and Toldja I took out that line break. I didn't think it would cause a problem. You got it back, so that's something. The changes don't seem to affected the read page. Is that right? Maybe I'm missing something or its got a different look on a different browser.
How'd those links get missed in the first place; no separate Wikipedia page? They were pretty late in the series. BradVesp ( talk) 21:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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@ BradVesp: Once again, please read WP:DUPLINKS, links to articles should only appear one in an article, and then again in infoboxs or tables, but sill only the first mention there. Secondly, the rowspan formatting is also correct. Please read up on WP:BRD because you are now edit warring. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
inconsistencies, the table was created to conform to what's recommended by the manual of style, again WP:DUPLINKS. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
What issue were these edits supposed to address? Seems like an editor was making random changes because they wanted to without actually improving the article. Splitting the episodes into many rows all with the same link is very unnecessary. - adamstom97 ( talk) 02:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
A few things to point out:
If one reads the policies referenced by WP:DUPLINKS you'll learn that it applies more to the lead to technical articles then to a fantasy or entertainment based one like this. "...Duplicate linking in stand-alone and embedded lists is permissible if it significantly aids the reader. This is most often the case when the list is presenting information that could just as aptly be formatted in a table, and is expected to be parsed for particular bits of data, not read from top to bottom." and from /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#Overlinking "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead."
The bigger issue: the area about ....Ming-Na Wen...."Pilot"....Brett Dalton...."4,722 Hours"... is confusing to look at. I don't know what policy applies to adding a line there common sense? Table formation?
I'm sorry if there's too much confusion. These policies can be a bit much, no? I had time to more thoroughly read the policies; wish more people did. Really, @ Favre1fan93: @ Czello: @ GabberFlasted: the links, are useful and within policy guidelines. My motivation to change it, now, is to point out the previously misconstrued WP:DUPLINKS policy.
Aside that, I think the area about ....Ming-Na Wen...."Pilot"....Brett Dalton...."4,722 Hours"... is problematic; confusing or disorienting. That should have another line added. Then for consistency there should be another line added by the episode separating the characters. BradVesp ( talk) 18:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
"Pilot"cell then all they need to do is look up a three lines to the Coulson row. - adamstom97 ( talk) 22:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
harmfulbecause you seem to have no regard to the WP:CONSENSUS that exists on this page (and frankly most of Wikipedia) that the episodes should not be linked more than once in the table because of WP:DUPLINKS. Additionally, the fact you continued to edit the article with further adjustments in the face of discussion after being banned for warring on that content, does not look good to other editors who are trying to follow WP:BRD and actually discuss this to see if any new consensus needs to be formed. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:38, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
You all ever see this? Wikipedia:Five_pillars; might supersede WP:DUPLINKS, BRD, and other policy suggestions butthatsjustme, I'vebeenwrongbefore. BradVesp ( talk) 19:55, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
if it significantly aids the reader-- we are saying that it does not in this case. - adamstom97 ( talk) 01:55, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Favre1fan93:, I noticed the link coding changes you made on the source page. When I was adding the link for Fear and Loathing on the Planet of Kitson and Toldja I took out that line break. I didn't think it would cause a problem. You got it back, so that's something. The changes don't seem to affected the read page. Is that right? Maybe I'm missing something or its got a different look on a different browser.
How'd those links get missed in the first place; no separate Wikipedia page? They were pretty late in the series. BradVesp ( talk) 21:58, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
The redirect
Akela Amador has been listed at
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redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 22 § Akela Amador until a consensus is reached.
Gonnym (
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18:43, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
The redirect
Ilsa Koenig has been listed at
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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 20 § Ilsa Koenig until a consensus is reached.
Gonnym (
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10:17, 20 August 2023 (UTC)