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Link for Alabama Republican and Democratic elector nominees: Who are Alabama's electors in the Electoral College? These 9 people will cast the votes
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/09/who_are_alabamas_electors_in_t.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.96.24 ( talk) 02:48, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm using the following criteria and preference for obtaining sources for the information in this list:
The preference is in this order, although if some additional information about an elector can be found in a news media article, that reference should be included here has well. -- Robert Horning ( talk) 15:02, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
An editorial dispute is happening here because it is claimed that the Texas electors is not found on that page. This is hard to find, because it is actually found in the spreadsheet under "2016 National Delegates". If you download that document, on "sheet 3" of that spreadsheet is a list of national committeemen (members of the RNC) and then for each congressional district what I must presume to be from congressional district conventions is the name of electors for each district... listed as presidential electors.
If we could find a much better source, it would be appreciated, but I've also been able to independently confirm that people on this particular list actually are current electors for the Republican Party this year. I'm not saying this list is complete (it is missing the at-large electors instead of just the ones for each congressional district), but far better than nothing at all and seems to be a reliable source so far as it does come from the official GOP website. -- Robert Horning ( talk) 16:33, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
This is a possible source for the Democratic Party electors for Texas. http://texasdemocraticconvention.com/convention-results/ Click SDEC Election Results. Download a copy and filter on the 2nd and 6th columns to find the electors. Avgjoetexas ( talk) 20:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Do I see right, every elector is listed but not everyone will finally vote as his party didn't get enough votes. Where can I read who was elected? -- Bardnet ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:28, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory
JS ( talk) 19:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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Eric0928
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03:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)Strongly Oppose Particularly given that in this election cycle the GOP electors aren't merely wielding the proverbial rubber stamp, but are being heavily lobbied, they are certainly notable enough for Wikipedia. kencf0618 ( talk) 20:15, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Strongly Oppose Given the recent phenomena of US Presidential winners losing the popular vote, the electoral college information is particularly relevant today, and I feel that the historical record belongs in Wikipedia. It is especially relevant for the 2016 election where the number of "faithless" electors and resignations was unprecedented. There were at least 12 cases where a valid elector chose not to vote for their party's candidate. Two faithless Republican votes were allowed (plus one for Vice President). Five Democrat faithless votes were allowed. In two Republican cases where faithless votes were allowable, the electors chose to resign rather than either vote against their conscience or break faith. Three Democrat faithless votes were disallowed by their state, two being removed from office and replaced, the third changing his vote. This year's electoral college was historical, and the full membership should be available. Terr1959 ( talk) 01:00, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
On List of United States presidential electors, 2016#Write-In_Electors_Pledged_To:_Bernard_.22Bernie.22_Sanders, the places they are from are in capital letters and has the state's abbreviation even though it says "California" right on the section header. On List of United States presidential electors, 2016#Alaska, they show the state abbreviation, and on Georgia, Delaware, and the District of Columbia have no entries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric0928 ( talk • contribs) 03:51, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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Eric0928
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01:35, 12 November 2016 (UTC)I would like to suggest that, at this point, this article list only the names of the electors who were actually elected in the 50 states and in the District of Columbia. A link could be included to the current version, which will effectively be an archived version, for individuals interested in seeing the names that were collected prior to the election.
In the event that the given electors have pages on Wikipedia, I would suggest linking those names to said articles.
Here is a listing by state of which party carried the election in that state.
I'm a reluctant Election Law Specialist, but I must be clear, because I do not want to be misleading: I do not have a legal degree, this is not legal advice, and I can not offer professional legal advice.
This is a great article to work with and start from, but there's a glaring set of errors: many of these Electors weren't pledged to Donald Trump, but were pledged to the Republican Parties (State or National, and frankly, sometimes it's not clear to me in particular cases whether the binding is to the National Candidate or the State Republican Nominee, if they should ever differ.)
This distinction is incredibly important in some really critical scenarios. Just before the Selection of Electors, the head of the Republican Party Reince Priebus was begging Donald Trump to drop out of the race so that another Republican could be nominated and appointed Nominee in a flash. He refused, and threatened third-party candidacy, holding the Republican Party hostage in the Election.
Here's a wonderful summary of State Laws from the National Association of Secretaries of State that consolidates essentially all relevant State Laws on Electors and the mechanisms by which they are bound into one document: http://www.nass.org/sites/default/files/surveys/2017-08/research-state-laws-pres-electors-nov16.pdf
State laws that bind Electors to the State Republican Party could have ballot-switched and ballot-synched very quickly in the days immediately after the Selection of Electors, if the National Party and State Parties had coordinated to do so. They could have bit back after being held hostage for the final weeks of the Campaign, and Trump's oft-repeated faithless threats to run as a third-party candidate, despite his acceptance of and signature on a binding pledge to support the Republican Nominee.
So let's go through and correct this article to show precisely, mechanically _how_ these Electors were pledged. The Republican Party could have thrown well over 100 delegates to "Dark Horse" exercising binding state laws as understood at the time, pushing Donald Trump to defend himself from insurgencies in the House and Senate. That they didn't even make an effort after asking for his resignation after the Access Hollywood Tape is quite astonishing, once they were in the clear past the November 8, 2016 Elector Selection hurdle, and free to throw enough sand to land the selection of the President (and optionally, the Vice-President) into the House and Senate, in defense of the country from, among other things, foreign aggression sponsoring any particular favored candidate and foreign policy portfolio for President.
(Strictly speaking, the State Party ought to be the assumed default, I presume, per States' Rights to recognize parties however they will, per Bush v Gore. But a Legislature's instant and immediate clarification would probably be treated with enormous deference, if there were ever a conflict and it were exercised, in reclaiming and exercising its plenary powers to settle these questions under State Law.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamtheclayman ( talk • contribs) 22:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
According to [1] the Republican Party Chairwoman Pam Roberts replaced Matt Michels. -- Dandelo ( talk) 18:21, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
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Link for Alabama Republican and Democratic elector nominees: Who are Alabama's electors in the Electoral College? These 9 people will cast the votes
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/09/who_are_alabamas_electors_in_t.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.96.24 ( talk) 02:48, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm using the following criteria and preference for obtaining sources for the information in this list:
The preference is in this order, although if some additional information about an elector can be found in a news media article, that reference should be included here has well. -- Robert Horning ( talk) 15:02, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
An editorial dispute is happening here because it is claimed that the Texas electors is not found on that page. This is hard to find, because it is actually found in the spreadsheet under "2016 National Delegates". If you download that document, on "sheet 3" of that spreadsheet is a list of national committeemen (members of the RNC) and then for each congressional district what I must presume to be from congressional district conventions is the name of electors for each district... listed as presidential electors.
If we could find a much better source, it would be appreciated, but I've also been able to independently confirm that people on this particular list actually are current electors for the Republican Party this year. I'm not saying this list is complete (it is missing the at-large electors instead of just the ones for each congressional district), but far better than nothing at all and seems to be a reliable source so far as it does come from the official GOP website. -- Robert Horning ( talk) 16:33, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
This is a possible source for the Democratic Party electors for Texas. http://texasdemocraticconvention.com/convention-results/ Click SDEC Election Results. Download a copy and filter on the 2nd and 6th columns to find the electors. Avgjoetexas ( talk) 20:29, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
Do I see right, every elector is listed but not everyone will finally vote as his party didn't get enough votes. Where can I read who was elected? -- Bardnet ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:28, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory
JS ( talk) 19:47, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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Eric0928
Talk
03:36, 11 November 2016 (UTC)Strongly Oppose Particularly given that in this election cycle the GOP electors aren't merely wielding the proverbial rubber stamp, but are being heavily lobbied, they are certainly notable enough for Wikipedia. kencf0618 ( talk) 20:15, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Strongly Oppose Given the recent phenomena of US Presidential winners losing the popular vote, the electoral college information is particularly relevant today, and I feel that the historical record belongs in Wikipedia. It is especially relevant for the 2016 election where the number of "faithless" electors and resignations was unprecedented. There were at least 12 cases where a valid elector chose not to vote for their party's candidate. Two faithless Republican votes were allowed (plus one for Vice President). Five Democrat faithless votes were allowed. In two Republican cases where faithless votes were allowable, the electors chose to resign rather than either vote against their conscience or break faith. Three Democrat faithless votes were disallowed by their state, two being removed from office and replaced, the third changing his vote. This year's electoral college was historical, and the full membership should be available. Terr1959 ( talk) 01:00, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
On List of United States presidential electors, 2016#Write-In_Electors_Pledged_To:_Bernard_.22Bernie.22_Sanders, the places they are from are in capital letters and has the state's abbreviation even though it says "California" right on the section header. On List of United States presidential electors, 2016#Alaska, they show the state abbreviation, and on Georgia, Delaware, and the District of Columbia have no entries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric0928 ( talk • contribs) 03:51, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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Eric0928
Talk
01:35, 12 November 2016 (UTC)I would like to suggest that, at this point, this article list only the names of the electors who were actually elected in the 50 states and in the District of Columbia. A link could be included to the current version, which will effectively be an archived version, for individuals interested in seeing the names that were collected prior to the election.
In the event that the given electors have pages on Wikipedia, I would suggest linking those names to said articles.
Here is a listing by state of which party carried the election in that state.
I'm a reluctant Election Law Specialist, but I must be clear, because I do not want to be misleading: I do not have a legal degree, this is not legal advice, and I can not offer professional legal advice.
This is a great article to work with and start from, but there's a glaring set of errors: many of these Electors weren't pledged to Donald Trump, but were pledged to the Republican Parties (State or National, and frankly, sometimes it's not clear to me in particular cases whether the binding is to the National Candidate or the State Republican Nominee, if they should ever differ.)
This distinction is incredibly important in some really critical scenarios. Just before the Selection of Electors, the head of the Republican Party Reince Priebus was begging Donald Trump to drop out of the race so that another Republican could be nominated and appointed Nominee in a flash. He refused, and threatened third-party candidacy, holding the Republican Party hostage in the Election.
Here's a wonderful summary of State Laws from the National Association of Secretaries of State that consolidates essentially all relevant State Laws on Electors and the mechanisms by which they are bound into one document: http://www.nass.org/sites/default/files/surveys/2017-08/research-state-laws-pres-electors-nov16.pdf
State laws that bind Electors to the State Republican Party could have ballot-switched and ballot-synched very quickly in the days immediately after the Selection of Electors, if the National Party and State Parties had coordinated to do so. They could have bit back after being held hostage for the final weeks of the Campaign, and Trump's oft-repeated faithless threats to run as a third-party candidate, despite his acceptance of and signature on a binding pledge to support the Republican Nominee.
So let's go through and correct this article to show precisely, mechanically _how_ these Electors were pledged. The Republican Party could have thrown well over 100 delegates to "Dark Horse" exercising binding state laws as understood at the time, pushing Donald Trump to defend himself from insurgencies in the House and Senate. That they didn't even make an effort after asking for his resignation after the Access Hollywood Tape is quite astonishing, once they were in the clear past the November 8, 2016 Elector Selection hurdle, and free to throw enough sand to land the selection of the President (and optionally, the Vice-President) into the House and Senate, in defense of the country from, among other things, foreign aggression sponsoring any particular favored candidate and foreign policy portfolio for President.
(Strictly speaking, the State Party ought to be the assumed default, I presume, per States' Rights to recognize parties however they will, per Bush v Gore. But a Legislature's instant and immediate clarification would probably be treated with enormous deference, if there were ever a conflict and it were exercised, in reclaiming and exercising its plenary powers to settle these questions under State Law.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamtheclayman ( talk • contribs) 22:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
According to [1] the Republican Party Chairwoman Pam Roberts replaced Matt Michels. -- Dandelo ( talk) 18:21, 12 December 2020 (UTC)