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An editor with the IP adress 24.191.219.199 has been repeatedly moving Chris Willis, a one-hit wonder for the song " Gettin' Over You", from the section for one-hit wonders who are main artists to the "Featured artist one-hit wonders" section. I, along with some other users, have been reverting this editor's edits while citing reasons for the reversions. However, the editor has been continuously reverting our edits, insisting that he belongs to the "Featured artist one-hit wonders" section with no reasons other than "...its not on his album its not his song" [sic].
I'm just here to enumerate the reasons as to why he belongs to the main section:
Here are some additional reasons that can be cited:
Holiday56 ( talk) 02:59, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
First of all I'm a girl!!! and if he is a main artist then why does Billboard not credit him as one in his Chart History? Chart History if he was a main artist it would be shown in his chart history and it doesn't making him a featured artist. even Willis own website says he did vocals on David Guetta's song Bio
24.191.219.199 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.219.199 ( talk) 05:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I have to agree with the girl I don't see what makes him a main artist. whats the difference between a featured artist and a and artist? in both cases they are two artists singing together it's common in this day and age. I agree he should be in the featured artist section, it would be different if the song was for a movie soundtrack then it wouldn't be off one person's album and would make him a main artist along with everyone else. and your examples aren't that good because they aren't one hit wonders. Dman41689 ( talk) 06:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Dman41689 ( talk) 07:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Stop editing the description of the "Featured Artists" section to claim it lists the "featured" or "and" artists. All of the artists in this section are listed as "with" or "featuring"; artists whose only hit was on either side of the "and" are listed in the appropriate year section. Whether you agree with the listing of one particular artist that way or not, saying that "and" artists are listed in the featured section is quite simply wrong. (This applies to the same sections in the 2000s, 1990s, and 1980s lists as well) 68.239.232.169 ( talk) 11:14, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
hey it always said that you think just because you use two different accounts people are going to listen to you? the whole point we have the featured artist section is for anyone in a collaboration that means featured, with, or or. the only people that should be up their are people that are by themselves. the only way it be different is if both the main and featured artists had one hit. Willis is not by himeself thats why he should go down their. you're the only person who thinks he should be up their.
24.191.219.199 (
talk)
17:14, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
the featured artist section is for anyone that is in a collaboration. meaning they are listed after the first artist. in other words they are a guest on that album means they're featured on that song. also this song is a remix that added Fergie and LMFAO that's why it lists him as an "and" artist. the original version lists him as a featured artist. it seems to me that Holiday56 is just a fan giving their bias opinion. 137.125.108.39 ( talk) 16:51, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
The song features Sabi, and the main artists are Cobra Starship. This is Sabi's only top 10 hit so far, so can you add her to the featured artists list?- Speedfish 13 February 2012 20:05 (UTC)
Shouldn't PSY's "Gangnam Style" be here? -- AndSalx95 ( talk) 07:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
It's been a year since the song by ASAP Rocky Fuckin' Problems has been released. I want to add it but I don't know the date it peaked into the Top 40. Does anyone have the exact date and a source for it?-- Captainmad2 ( talk) 17:48, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
February 16, 2012, peaked at #8.-- DepressedPer ( talk) 17:49, 28, November 2013 (UTC)
You mean 2013. But do you have a source?-- Captainmad2 ( talk) 17:48, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
when did this song peak into the top 40? it's Juicy J's only top 40 hit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainmad2 ( talk • contribs) 01:49, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
shouldn't Ray Dalton be in the featured artist one hit wonders list? He's only known for being featured on the top 40 hit Can't Hold Us by Macklemore. I don't know the peak date of the song but it's definitely been a year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainmad2 ( talk • contribs) 04:08, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Far East Movement: Like a G6, Lupe Fiasco: The Show Goes On Cobra Starship: You Make Me Feel, Ellie Goulding: Lights, YC: Racks (Remix), Kreayshawn: Gucci Gucci, AWOLNATION: SAIL Driicky Graham: Snapbacks and Tattoos, Carly Rae Jepsen: Call Me Maybe — Preceding unsigned comment added by ivangbailey ( talk • contribs)
Would "Get Lucky" by Daft Punk technically count? Sorry, I'm new to this but I know that's so far their only top 40 song in the US. 198.45.223.105 ( talk) 03:17, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, but you have to wait about three weeks since there's a one year lag period to go by. DepressedPer ( talk) 03:30, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
DAFT PUNK had 2 more hits
AROUND THE WORLD # 61 in 1997
ONE MORE TIME # 61 in 2001
BOTH gold certified by RIAA
plus they had 2 albums
HOMEWORK and DISCOVERY both gold certified by RIAA
how you call them one hit wonders ? — Preceding
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89.204.130.33 (
talk)
22:05, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
The song by them called Latch has been their only top 40 hit in the US, and it was released back in October 8, 2012, so its definitely been a year. when was the peak date of the song?
The song's peak date is currently July 5 of "this year" in the US. That may change in the upcoming weeks and you'll have to wait a whole year until the pending peak date to edit in on the list. DepressedPer ( talk) 19:29, (UTC)
no, i'm asking what the date was when this song FIRST peaked into the top 40. Captainmad2 ( talk) (UTC)
The song first peaked on May 24 of this year. Just don't add it yet. DepressedPer ( talk) 02:31, (UTC)
When did this song by Rocko first peak into the Top 40? Its been a year since it was released. Captainmad2 ( talk) 17:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
It first peaked at June 8, 2013 at number 38. Wait about a month until the final peak date. DepressedPer ( talk) 19:23, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Is this page in the process of being redesigned, or is it completed? If the latter is true, I have to disagree with some of the changes made; namely, the removal of artist footnotes and the featured artist section. I consider those two tables of information essential for the page, giving context to the artists who only have one top 40 hit. Can anyone give an explanation to the removal of those tables? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.199.145.142 ( talk) 17:12, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, ever since Billboard started including Youtube views and random old songs like "Livin' on a Prayer" and "Only Time" started popping up in the top 40 for a week at a time, I've been waiting for this to happen. We now officially have the first artist to be a one hit wonder because of one of their songs randomly making the top 40 twenty-five years after they were popular when they didn't have any top 40 hits before. I was thinking it would be someone like Judas Priest (they had no top 40 hits) but I guess this works too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.150.49 ( talk) 22:41, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm personally not sure if the list should include featured artists on songs by well-established artists, as the featured artist is not the main emphasis of the song. I also noticed that a few of the listings of one-hit-wonders, such as Nate Ruess and Rivers Cuomo are actually the vocalists of groups with multiple hits, so I'm unsure if those count. Thanks for hearing me out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.237.242.9 ( talk) 06:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
So i was totally wrong and im sorry
CLEAN BANDIT had one hit in the USA with rather BE
it was their sole Hot 100 Entry !
But now as of 2017 we have another hit for the band
ROCKABYE rocketed to #21 on the Hot 100 so far and has gained Platinum status
so it is dismissed from the ONE HIT WONDER status
Im sure they will have more hits in the future — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.99.204 ( talk) 13:40, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Page is still incomplete because musicians Flume and Kai are missing from the list. Their sole hit single is " Never Be Like You" Ssjhowarthisawesome ( talk) 00:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
A one year lag peroid is observed. One hit wonders don't be addable to the list until one year after their last top 40 hit. 73.1.57.180 ( talk) 21:30, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
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There is a clear consensus for:
- 3 – Redirect all seven decade articles back to List of one-hit wonders in the United States while changing the inclusion criteria of the main article from any maths or statistics derivation to instead be a list of artists that have been called one-hit wonders in multiple reliable sources, with two sources cited for each entry.
I think we must restrict this list to the songs that have been released by artists who have been described in reliable sources as "one-hit wonders". It's not enough to look at an artist's chart history and figure out whether they qualify because only one song charted. That kind of practice violates WP:No original research which is a hard policy, not negotiable.
By the way, the book listed in the bibliography was published in 1998, so it could not possibly be relevant in this article about the 2010s. Binksternet ( talk) 04:07, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
There used to be a series of footnotes included on these One Hit Wonder pages that that denoted whether included artists had hits on other Billboard charts - or had multiple entries on the album charts or Gold or Platinum records - but these were removed several years ago. I'm not sure what the consensus was on removing those footnotes, but getting rid of them had led to the lack of clarification about what this list is supposed to be (these lists also include artists whose only top 40 hit came through a featured credit, with no notice that this is the case). I would suggest adding something like that back to the article. However, "only one top 40 hit" = "one hit wonder" seems to be a common definition for a very nebulous term, and we can certainly find other sources supporting that definition. However, there's also sources like this one that ran in The Village Voice a few years back, and it recommends a completely different definition of "one hit wonder" that would exclude acts like Michael Buble or Jimi Hendrix (who both only have one top 40 entry). I think there should be some kind of footnotes included back on this page to clarify why certain artists are here. Or, should we choose to remove someone like Michael Buble, have something in the article explaining why those artists are not present. However, I would like to include the opinions of some of the editors who maintain this list regularly - of which there are a few - with regards of whether we should change which artists are included here. Doc Strange Mailbox Logbook 19:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
I agree that the term "one-hit wonder" should be more clarified in the respective articles per decade, as many artists have escaped "one-hit wonder" status by being featured in another artist's Top 40 song and that the names of these list articles should be more specific as people have different interpretations of the term "one-hit wonder". Nintendoswitchfan ( talk) 18:10, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
It's also important to note how some artists in these "one-hit wonder" lists like Blink-182, Fuel, Gorillaz, etc. had smash hits in the respective charts for their genres, hence people don't easily associate them with the term "one-hit wonder" despite them only having one song land within the Top 40. Nintendoswitchfan ( talk) 18:14, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Condensing the choices from the above discussion, should we:
Binksternet ( talk) 15:16, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Comment: This is another improperly hidden AfD discussion. No notice was posted on the affected articles. While a Bot summoned some comments apparently, no effort was made to contact the numerous editors who have contributed to this series of articles, including myself. Instead, only six commenters forced this decision to delete a massive amount of content. Trackinfo ( talk) 06:44, 23 January 2018 (UTC) Comment: This discussion is ludacris. There was a lot of hard work behind the series of articles, and it's all thrown away because "one-hit wonder" is a "culturally-loaded" term. What a bunch of crap. 50.111.24.195 ( talk) 04:09, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Today IP user:174.223.133.37 restored all these articles, which was immediately shut down with the suggestion to discuss it here. Above I already commented a year and a half ago about the poorly constructed discussion. Another IP supported me. Since the new IP hasn't brought it up, I will. We obviously have issues with the above, well hidden discussion, which I and other participants in the affected articles, were not notified of and which, thus were not allowed to comment on. Let me be clear, the above discussion had just 7 participants, most of whom were not contributors to those articles. It wiped out a lot of editors' contributions made over more than a decade, my demolished contributions were but a small part of that. So my suggestion is to conduct a proper discussion. NOTIFY ALL THE AFFECTED EDITORS! Since contributions to the articles started in 2005, predating even a long timer like me, maybe you'll get lucky and the people making those contributions will have died off or just quit editing after a mass of their work was unilaterally destroyed. Several histories indicate some are still active. Give them a chance to speak and see if this was a proper consensus. Trackinfo ( talk) 04:33, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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An editor with the IP adress 24.191.219.199 has been repeatedly moving Chris Willis, a one-hit wonder for the song " Gettin' Over You", from the section for one-hit wonders who are main artists to the "Featured artist one-hit wonders" section. I, along with some other users, have been reverting this editor's edits while citing reasons for the reversions. However, the editor has been continuously reverting our edits, insisting that he belongs to the "Featured artist one-hit wonders" section with no reasons other than "...its not on his album its not his song" [sic].
I'm just here to enumerate the reasons as to why he belongs to the main section:
Here are some additional reasons that can be cited:
Holiday56 ( talk) 02:59, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
First of all I'm a girl!!! and if he is a main artist then why does Billboard not credit him as one in his Chart History? Chart History if he was a main artist it would be shown in his chart history and it doesn't making him a featured artist. even Willis own website says he did vocals on David Guetta's song Bio
24.191.219.199 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.219.199 ( talk) 05:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I have to agree with the girl I don't see what makes him a main artist. whats the difference between a featured artist and a and artist? in both cases they are two artists singing together it's common in this day and age. I agree he should be in the featured artist section, it would be different if the song was for a movie soundtrack then it wouldn't be off one person's album and would make him a main artist along with everyone else. and your examples aren't that good because they aren't one hit wonders. Dman41689 ( talk) 06:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Dman41689 ( talk) 07:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Stop editing the description of the "Featured Artists" section to claim it lists the "featured" or "and" artists. All of the artists in this section are listed as "with" or "featuring"; artists whose only hit was on either side of the "and" are listed in the appropriate year section. Whether you agree with the listing of one particular artist that way or not, saying that "and" artists are listed in the featured section is quite simply wrong. (This applies to the same sections in the 2000s, 1990s, and 1980s lists as well) 68.239.232.169 ( talk) 11:14, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
hey it always said that you think just because you use two different accounts people are going to listen to you? the whole point we have the featured artist section is for anyone in a collaboration that means featured, with, or or. the only people that should be up their are people that are by themselves. the only way it be different is if both the main and featured artists had one hit. Willis is not by himeself thats why he should go down their. you're the only person who thinks he should be up their.
24.191.219.199 (
talk)
17:14, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
the featured artist section is for anyone that is in a collaboration. meaning they are listed after the first artist. in other words they are a guest on that album means they're featured on that song. also this song is a remix that added Fergie and LMFAO that's why it lists him as an "and" artist. the original version lists him as a featured artist. it seems to me that Holiday56 is just a fan giving their bias opinion. 137.125.108.39 ( talk) 16:51, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
The song features Sabi, and the main artists are Cobra Starship. This is Sabi's only top 10 hit so far, so can you add her to the featured artists list?- Speedfish 13 February 2012 20:05 (UTC)
Shouldn't PSY's "Gangnam Style" be here? -- AndSalx95 ( talk) 07:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
It's been a year since the song by ASAP Rocky Fuckin' Problems has been released. I want to add it but I don't know the date it peaked into the Top 40. Does anyone have the exact date and a source for it?-- Captainmad2 ( talk) 17:48, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
February 16, 2012, peaked at #8.-- DepressedPer ( talk) 17:49, 28, November 2013 (UTC)
You mean 2013. But do you have a source?-- Captainmad2 ( talk) 17:48, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
when did this song peak into the top 40? it's Juicy J's only top 40 hit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainmad2 ( talk • contribs) 01:49, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
shouldn't Ray Dalton be in the featured artist one hit wonders list? He's only known for being featured on the top 40 hit Can't Hold Us by Macklemore. I don't know the peak date of the song but it's definitely been a year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainmad2 ( talk • contribs) 04:08, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Far East Movement: Like a G6, Lupe Fiasco: The Show Goes On Cobra Starship: You Make Me Feel, Ellie Goulding: Lights, YC: Racks (Remix), Kreayshawn: Gucci Gucci, AWOLNATION: SAIL Driicky Graham: Snapbacks and Tattoos, Carly Rae Jepsen: Call Me Maybe — Preceding unsigned comment added by ivangbailey ( talk • contribs)
Would "Get Lucky" by Daft Punk technically count? Sorry, I'm new to this but I know that's so far their only top 40 song in the US. 198.45.223.105 ( talk) 03:17, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, but you have to wait about three weeks since there's a one year lag period to go by. DepressedPer ( talk) 03:30, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
DAFT PUNK had 2 more hits
AROUND THE WORLD # 61 in 1997
ONE MORE TIME # 61 in 2001
BOTH gold certified by RIAA
plus they had 2 albums
HOMEWORK and DISCOVERY both gold certified by RIAA
how you call them one hit wonders ? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
89.204.130.33 (
talk)
22:05, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
The song by them called Latch has been their only top 40 hit in the US, and it was released back in October 8, 2012, so its definitely been a year. when was the peak date of the song?
The song's peak date is currently July 5 of "this year" in the US. That may change in the upcoming weeks and you'll have to wait a whole year until the pending peak date to edit in on the list. DepressedPer ( talk) 19:29, (UTC)
no, i'm asking what the date was when this song FIRST peaked into the top 40. Captainmad2 ( talk) (UTC)
The song first peaked on May 24 of this year. Just don't add it yet. DepressedPer ( talk) 02:31, (UTC)
When did this song by Rocko first peak into the Top 40? Its been a year since it was released. Captainmad2 ( talk) 17:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
It first peaked at June 8, 2013 at number 38. Wait about a month until the final peak date. DepressedPer ( talk) 19:23, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Is this page in the process of being redesigned, or is it completed? If the latter is true, I have to disagree with some of the changes made; namely, the removal of artist footnotes and the featured artist section. I consider those two tables of information essential for the page, giving context to the artists who only have one top 40 hit. Can anyone give an explanation to the removal of those tables? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.199.145.142 ( talk) 17:12, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, ever since Billboard started including Youtube views and random old songs like "Livin' on a Prayer" and "Only Time" started popping up in the top 40 for a week at a time, I've been waiting for this to happen. We now officially have the first artist to be a one hit wonder because of one of their songs randomly making the top 40 twenty-five years after they were popular when they didn't have any top 40 hits before. I was thinking it would be someone like Judas Priest (they had no top 40 hits) but I guess this works too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.150.49 ( talk) 22:41, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm personally not sure if the list should include featured artists on songs by well-established artists, as the featured artist is not the main emphasis of the song. I also noticed that a few of the listings of one-hit-wonders, such as Nate Ruess and Rivers Cuomo are actually the vocalists of groups with multiple hits, so I'm unsure if those count. Thanks for hearing me out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.237.242.9 ( talk) 06:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
So i was totally wrong and im sorry
CLEAN BANDIT had one hit in the USA with rather BE
it was their sole Hot 100 Entry !
But now as of 2017 we have another hit for the band
ROCKABYE rocketed to #21 on the Hot 100 so far and has gained Platinum status
so it is dismissed from the ONE HIT WONDER status
Im sure they will have more hits in the future — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.99.204 ( talk) 13:40, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Page is still incomplete because musicians Flume and Kai are missing from the list. Their sole hit single is " Never Be Like You" Ssjhowarthisawesome ( talk) 00:25, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
A one year lag peroid is observed. One hit wonders don't be addable to the list until one year after their last top 40 hit. 73.1.57.180 ( talk) 21:30, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
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There is a clear consensus for:
- 3 – Redirect all seven decade articles back to List of one-hit wonders in the United States while changing the inclusion criteria of the main article from any maths or statistics derivation to instead be a list of artists that have been called one-hit wonders in multiple reliable sources, with two sources cited for each entry.
I think we must restrict this list to the songs that have been released by artists who have been described in reliable sources as "one-hit wonders". It's not enough to look at an artist's chart history and figure out whether they qualify because only one song charted. That kind of practice violates WP:No original research which is a hard policy, not negotiable.
By the way, the book listed in the bibliography was published in 1998, so it could not possibly be relevant in this article about the 2010s. Binksternet ( talk) 04:07, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
There used to be a series of footnotes included on these One Hit Wonder pages that that denoted whether included artists had hits on other Billboard charts - or had multiple entries on the album charts or Gold or Platinum records - but these were removed several years ago. I'm not sure what the consensus was on removing those footnotes, but getting rid of them had led to the lack of clarification about what this list is supposed to be (these lists also include artists whose only top 40 hit came through a featured credit, with no notice that this is the case). I would suggest adding something like that back to the article. However, "only one top 40 hit" = "one hit wonder" seems to be a common definition for a very nebulous term, and we can certainly find other sources supporting that definition. However, there's also sources like this one that ran in The Village Voice a few years back, and it recommends a completely different definition of "one hit wonder" that would exclude acts like Michael Buble or Jimi Hendrix (who both only have one top 40 entry). I think there should be some kind of footnotes included back on this page to clarify why certain artists are here. Or, should we choose to remove someone like Michael Buble, have something in the article explaining why those artists are not present. However, I would like to include the opinions of some of the editors who maintain this list regularly - of which there are a few - with regards of whether we should change which artists are included here. Doc Strange Mailbox Logbook 19:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
I agree that the term "one-hit wonder" should be more clarified in the respective articles per decade, as many artists have escaped "one-hit wonder" status by being featured in another artist's Top 40 song and that the names of these list articles should be more specific as people have different interpretations of the term "one-hit wonder". Nintendoswitchfan ( talk) 18:10, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
It's also important to note how some artists in these "one-hit wonder" lists like Blink-182, Fuel, Gorillaz, etc. had smash hits in the respective charts for their genres, hence people don't easily associate them with the term "one-hit wonder" despite them only having one song land within the Top 40. Nintendoswitchfan ( talk) 18:14, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Condensing the choices from the above discussion, should we:
Binksternet ( talk) 15:16, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Comment: This is another improperly hidden AfD discussion. No notice was posted on the affected articles. While a Bot summoned some comments apparently, no effort was made to contact the numerous editors who have contributed to this series of articles, including myself. Instead, only six commenters forced this decision to delete a massive amount of content. Trackinfo ( talk) 06:44, 23 January 2018 (UTC) Comment: This discussion is ludacris. There was a lot of hard work behind the series of articles, and it's all thrown away because "one-hit wonder" is a "culturally-loaded" term. What a bunch of crap. 50.111.24.195 ( talk) 04:09, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Today IP user:174.223.133.37 restored all these articles, which was immediately shut down with the suggestion to discuss it here. Above I already commented a year and a half ago about the poorly constructed discussion. Another IP supported me. Since the new IP hasn't brought it up, I will. We obviously have issues with the above, well hidden discussion, which I and other participants in the affected articles, were not notified of and which, thus were not allowed to comment on. Let me be clear, the above discussion had just 7 participants, most of whom were not contributors to those articles. It wiped out a lot of editors' contributions made over more than a decade, my demolished contributions were but a small part of that. So my suggestion is to conduct a proper discussion. NOTIFY ALL THE AFFECTED EDITORS! Since contributions to the articles started in 2005, predating even a long timer like me, maybe you'll get lucky and the people making those contributions will have died off or just quit editing after a mass of their work was unilaterally destroyed. Several histories indicate some are still active. Give them a chance to speak and see if this was a proper consensus. Trackinfo ( talk) 04:33, 25 July 2019 (UTC)