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Continuing from an earlier discussion, would some professional videos by artists on [MTV] be considered early forms of lip dub, since it is not really lip syncing. I believe lip syncing to be the original artist singing over a pre-recorded track of their own material. And lip dub to be anyone other than the original artist. To that effect, Milli Vanilli and the woman from C+C music factory would be lip dubbers, vice lip sync-ers.
The MTVish videos I was referring to would be:
immunity talk 07:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I found this article, Numa Numa, and it makes me think that this is one of the first lip dub's that went popular. Is this considered a lip dub? The article calls it a lip sync...-- The Robot Champion talk to me 03:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
The first time the term was coined is for this video : http://www.vimeo.com/123498 Just a simple playback and he is alone ! I know many older videos on the internet doing the same thing. The term was coined long before he filmed many people doing this together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.171.32.248 ( talk) 23:25, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The list of lip dubs which are added is growing a lot, and may end up growing much more. Maybe we should create a table, so that we will only include fields such as Month/Year/University or company/ Country / Small comment of why itis remarkable/ URL to the video /. Table can be later moved to a new article, of list type, if needed.-- Jordiferrer ( talk) 21:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Title, Link | Date | YouTube Views (as of 2011-02-06) | Publisher | Location | Source(s), (Note(s)), (Citation(s)) |
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LIPDUB - I Gotta Feeling (Comm-UQAM 2009) | 2009-09-11 | 7,993,112 | UQÀM | Montréal, Canada | Uses "I Gotta Feeling" by The Black Eyed Peas. Directed by Luc-Olivier Cloutier and Marie-Eve Hebert. CNN [1] discussed the video. Its " behind the scenes" is the most watched of the universities that have uploaded them, with more than 230,000 views. |
Hey Ya: A music video | 2009-11-05 | 538,402 | Shorecrest High School | Shoreline, WA, US | Uses "Hey Ya" by Outkast. |
Shorewood Lip Dub | 2009-12-17 | 1,506,060 | Shorewood High School | Shoreline, WA, US | Uses "You Make My Dreams" by Daryl Hall & John Oates. Choreographed and filmed in reverse chronology. Rachel Ray featured the video and interviewed its participants [2] on her show. Response lipdub to a challenge [2] from archrival Shorecrest High School. |
Train - Hey, Soul Sister - Lipdub video UVIC, ( Vimeo) | 2010-05-24 | 1,130,570; 2,532 on Vimeo | Universitat de Vic | Vic, Catalonia, Spain | Uses "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. |
LIPDUB - INDEPENDÈNCIA - WORLD RECORD (Official) | 2010-10-27 released, 2010-10-24 filmed | 1,073,572 | la independència de Catalunya i la resta dels Països Catalans | Vic, Catalonia, Spain | Uses "La Flama" by Obrint Pas. Achieving a total of 5,771 participants, the World Records Academy awarded it the World Record for being the lipdub with the highest participation ever. [3] The initiative was born from a group of Catalans, promoting the cause of Catalonia independence [4] [5] [6] It has almost 1,000,000 viewers in less than two months. It is also one of the most commented videos in Youtube with more than 30,000 comments. |
LipDub "Pretty Fly" - Faculté de Droit - UdeM | 2009-11-13 releasd, 2009-11-08 filmed | 909,813 | Université de Montréal Faculty of Law | Montréal, Canada | Uses "Pretty Fly" by The Offspring and "I Fought the Law" by The Clash. |
Lipdub HEC Montréal x 2009 / Bryan Adams - Summer of 69 | 2009-04-29 | 333,693 | HEC Montréal | Montréal, Canada | Uses "Summer of 69" by Bryan Adams. |
Lipdub HEC Montréal 2009 (ISN) | 2009-03-15 | 542,448 | HEC Montréal | Montréal, Canada | Uses "Mamma Mia" by ABBA. |
LipDub EMLYON 2009 | 2009-07-09 released, 2009-05 filmed | 537,377 | EMLYON | Lyon, France | Uses "Video Killed the Radio Star" by Buggles and "Pop the Music" by Triim. [7] |
University LipDub #1 | 2008-07-02 | 254,249 | Furtwangen University | Furtwangen im Schwarzwald, Baden-Württemberg, Germany | Uses "257 Weeks" by Nine Days. The first University lipdub [6]. Lipdub reflected university life as it happens on a normal day of classes. This video inspired the UniversityLipdub.com project. [8]. |
LIPDUB ESSEC "Let's get it started" BLACK EYED PEAS | 2009-06-09 | 256,071 | ESSEC | Cergy, France | Uses "Let's Get It Started (Spike Mix) [Bonus Track]" from The Black Eyes Peas |
Don't Stop Believing LIPDUB Bloomingdale High School | 2009-12-10 | 207,859 | Bloomingdale High School | Valrico, Florida | Uses "Don't Stop Believing" (Glee version from the original by Journey). |
LIP3DUB | 2010-12-02 released, 2010-09-03 filmed | 29,187 | [Associació Cultural Lo Cirerer http://www.locirerer.org/], TV3, Obrint Pas | es:Porrera ( es:Priorat), Catalonia, Spain | Uses "La Flama" by Obrint Pas. See es:LIP3DUB. |
Lipdub HEC 2008 | 2008-12-02 | 556,494 | HEC Paris | Jouy-en-Josas, France | Uses "Lollipop" by Mika. |
Boston University LipDub 2009 | 2009-12-14 | 482,212 | Boston University | Boston, MA, US | Uses "I Want You Back" by Michael Jackson and "ABC" by Michael Jackson. |
Lipdub -somebody to love - GLEE - the Hebrew University of Jerusalem | 2010-10-10 | 156,889 | Hebrew University of Jerusalem | Jerusalem, Israel | Uses "Somebody to Love" (Glee karoke version from the George Michael original featuring Queen). Features an unofficial production of the Queen song " Somebody to Love" performed by the cast of the TV series Glee. Queen guitarist Brian May, upon seeing this film, wrote : "I ... got quite a lump in the throat. It's very well done, with great heart and joy, and I'm sure Freddie (Mercury, the late Queen soloist) would love it." [9]. Added 05:40, 30 November 2010. |
Vueling Together | 2009-12-16 | 37,354 | Vueling Airlines | El Prat de Llobregat, Spain | Uses "When Love Takes Over" (Feat. Kelly Rowland - Electro Extended) by David Guetta and Kelly Rowland. [10] |
lip dub amarillas | 2010-04-10 | 5,280 | Yell Publicidad Páginas Amarillas | Spain | |
Lip Dub Kia Motors France | 2008-10-14 | 41,123 | Kia Motors France | Nanterre, France | Uses "Big Soul" by Le Brio. |
Lipdub AOL - lip dub - Amour à la francaise | 2007-10-16 filmed, 2008-03-09 uploaded | 110,370 | AOL France | Paris, France | Also at L'amour à la Française - Lip Dub@ AOL France |
MEDEF : le lipdub | 2008-02-27 | 45,002 | MEDEF | Paris, France | Uses custom music. |
LipDub SRC Bordeaux promo 2008 - You're The One That I Want | 2008-02-29 | 32,003 | fr:Institut universitaire de technologie Michel de Montaigne | Bordeaux, France | Uses "You're The One That I Want" from Grease. |
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=difgvZfjnp8 LIP DUB ECOTECNIC 2010 ANDORRA | 2010-12-14 | 1,550 | ecotècnic | Andorra, AE | Uses "La Flama" by Obrint Pas. |
LipdUPC | 2010-05-07 | 117,046 | Polytechnic University of Catalonia staff | Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain | Uses "Hot N Cold" by Katy Perry. |
Hey Soul Sister (Lipdub MV) - CYLC 2010 Geng Ban | 2010-08-05 | 4,041 | Congressional Youth Leadership Council Dallas-Fort Worth/Geng Ban | Dallas, TX, US | Uses "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. [11] |
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ZqSyqORX4 LIP DUB UPF "Wake me up before you go-go" (Barcelona, 2010) | 2010-06-09 | 199,437 | Pompeu Fabra University Comunicació Audiovisual department | Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain | Uses " Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" by George Michael. Catalan lipdub with 1,200 participants, a former world record [12]. Participants included students, teachers and administrative personnel. The last scene included 700 persons. |
lipdub, du lycée Léonard de Vinci d'Antibes | 2008-04-03 | 18,031 | Lycée Léonard de Vinci | Antibes, France | Uses "Harder Better Faster Stronger" by Daft Punk. |
THE MHS LIP DUB: FIREWORK | 2010-12 | 213,571 | Magnolia High School | Magnolia, TX, US | Uses "Firework" by Katy Perry and "Animal" by Neon Trees. Produced by Broadcast Journalism students. The video reached 100,000 views in one week and caught the attention of Katy Perry. Deleted 01:06, 20 January 2011. |
Martin High School Lip Dub 2010 | 2010-11-06 | 34,489 | Martin High School | Arlington, TX, US | Uses "Everybody Needs Somebody To Love" by Blues Brothers and "Think" by Aretha Franklin. Included 4000+ participants. |
LIPDUB ESSCA | 2009-11-06 | 389,317 | Ecole Supérieure des Sciences Commerciales d'Angers | Angers, France | Uses "You're the One that I Want" and "We Go Together" from Grease. |
World first World of Warcraft Lib Dub: We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel | 2010-12-01 | 285,792 | World of Warcraft users. | World of Warcraft online | Uses "We Didn't Start the Fire" by Billy Joel. First World of Warcraft lipdub. |
SIPA Lip Dub - We didn't start the fire | 2010-04-26 | 1,452 | Columbia University SIPA | New York, NY, US | Uses "We Didn't Start the Fire" by Billy Joel. |
Plum High School Pittsburgh Penguins Lipdub | 2010-04-06 | 221,338 | Plum High School | Plum, PA, US | Uses "I Gotta Feeling (Taboo's Broken Spanglish Remix)" by The Black Eyed Peas. Tribute to the Pittsburgh Penguins. |
Chartiers Valley Pittsburgh Penguins LipDub | 2010-04-19 | 27,851 | Chartiers Valley High School | Bridgeville , PA, US | Uses "Hey Ya!" by Outkast. Tribute to the Pittsburgh Penguins. |
Emerson College Lady Gaga LipDub | 2010-12-08 | 888,641 | Emerson College | Boston, MA, US | Uses a Lady Gaga compilation. For the 30th Annual EVVY Awards. Added 07:01, 15 2010-12 |
UVic Lipdub (Canada) - "Haven't Met You Yet" by Michael Bublé (HD) | 2010-10-22 released, 2010-09-25 | 184,722 | University of Victoria | Victoria, BC, Canada | Uses Michael Bublé " Haven't Met You Yet". Shot in one day with just under 1,000 students. CBC News and local news outlets covered the video which reached over 100,000 views on YouTube in less than a week. The lipdub was made in 'response' to the 'UVic' (Universitat de Vic from Catalonia) ' Hey, Soul Sister' lipdub which many, including celebrity blogger Perez Hilton [13], mistakenly believed came from the Canadian 'UVic'. |
GVSU LipDub 2010 *OFFICIAL* | 2010-10-12 | 143,373 | Grand Valley State University | Allendale, MI, US | Uses "Come Sail Away" by Styx. [14] |
The Office Season 7 Episode 1 | 2010-09-23 aired | cast of the Office Season 7 Premiere episode "Nepotism" | Uses "Nobody But Me" by Human Beinz. Directed by Jeff Blitz. | ||
Office Lipdub - Queen "Don't stop me now" | 2008-11-18 | 8,809 | JDB Media GMBH | Hamburg, Germany | Uses "Don't Stop Me Now" by Queen. |
If We Ever Meet Again - Lipdub Israel 2010 | 2010-06-19 | 258,891 | Dizengoff Center | Tel Aviv, Israel | Uses " If We Ever Meet Again" ( Timbaland ft. Katy Perry). It was filmed in a public mall so actors blend in the crowd and emerge from it. |
Lipdub at Calvin College ( Vimeo) | 2010-04-26 | 79,047; 36,600 on Vimeo | Calvin College | Grand Rapids, MI, US | Uses "So Much Love" by Rocket Summer. Filmed by film production students. |
Brock University Student LipDub - Come Together | 2010-04-26 | 8,881 | Brock University | St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada | Uses "Come Together" by The Beatles. |
Lipdub NTU 2010- ??? Hey! (NTU ArtFestival 2010 ????? ?????2010) | 2010-04-19 | 21,136 | National Taiwan University | Taipei, Taiwan | Uses "??? Hey!". First known lipdub in Chinese citation needed, for the Art Festival of National Taiwan University [15]. |
LipDub Alphabeat - Fascination UAM 2009 ( Vimeo) | 2009-12-19 released, 2009-12-13 filmed | 618,084; 2,071 on Vimeo | Adam Mickiewicz University | Poznan, Poland | Uses "Fascination" by Alphabeat. Over 700 students participated. Added 00:01, 22 2010-12. |
LipDub KUL - Don't Stop Me Now | 2010-05-18 released, 2010-05-09 filmed | 162,836 | Catholic University of Lublin | Lublin, Poland | Uses "Don't Stop Me Now" by Queen. |
Lipdub video at Texas State | 2009-11-17 | 4,566 | Texas State University | Dallas, TX, US | Uses "Move Along" by The All-American Rejects. First US lipdub. Two United States universities were put to the task of producing lipdub, competing be the first. In the end the Texas State lipdub won over Suffolk University, just three days apart. Filmed by Lisa Duncan in San Marcos LBJ Student Center. |
Lipdub ISW Gasthuislaan-Madeweg : We Are Golden | 2009-12-03 | 44,130 | Interconfessionele Scholengroep Westland at Gasthuislaan-Madeweg | Gasthuislaan-Madeweg, Netherlands | Uses "We Are Golden" by Mika |
University of Guelph Lipdub - Rebellion (Lies) | 2010-02-03 released, 2010-01-30 filmed | 39,100 | University of Guelph | Guelph, Ontario, Canada) | Uses " Rebellion (Lies)" by [Arcade Fire]]. Filmed in the Thornbrough Engineering building over 5 hours and 3 takes [16]. Added 15:44, 7 January 2011 |
Arizona Diamondbacks Lip Dub, Seasons Greetings | 2010-12-14 released, 2010-12-10 filmed | 2,175 | Arizona Diamondbacks staff and players | Phoenix, AZ, US | Uses "D-backs Swing" by Roger Clyne & The Peacemakers. First professional sports team to record a lipdub. Includes 100+ employees including owner Ken Kendrick, CEO Derrick Hall, former player Luis Gonzalez and players Ian Kennedy, Barry Enright and Sam Demel. The lipdub was also the team's annual electronic holiday card sent out to fans and business partners. [17]. Added 22:57, 14 2010-12 |
Today Show Lip Dub "I've got a feeling" | 2010-11-22 | 8,216 | The Today Show staff | New York, NY, US | Uses "I Gotta Feeling" by The Black Eyed Peas. |
McGill Desautels MBA LipDub (Movember) | 2010-11-26 | 19,296 | McGill University Desautels Faculty of Management MBA Class | Montréal, Canada | Uses "Give a Little Love" by Tom Jones. This is the only MOVEMBER lipdub. Directed and Produced by Jun Yeo, filmed and edited by Charlie Bern and MBA students. Added 22:31, 3 2010-12. |
Lip Dub Telefónica On The Spot Services - ONE VISION - 40 años de Hilo Musical | 2011-01-04 | 1,822 | Telefónica | Madrid, Spain | Uses custom music. |
Sedro Woolley High School Lip Dub | 2010-04-16 | 11,238 | Sedro-Woolley High School | Sedro-Woolley, WA, US | Uses "Say Hey (I Love You)" by Michael Franti and Spearhead. Submitted [18] for a Cascades-area high school lipdub contest [19]. |
The Victoria's Secret Show: Victoria's Secret 2010 - VS Loves Katy Perry | 2010-11-29 | 486,322 | Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 2010 staff and participants | New York, NY, US | Uses "Firework" by Katy Perry. Official promotional ad. [20]. |
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First of all having a list of "recognizble" lip dubs is completely arbitrary.
Second of all some of the information about the each one is completely misconstrued. Which information is used to verify that the lip dubs in Israel were the first and second filmed there? I know for a fact that this one ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP2RPYi7fSM) was filmed in February 2010, and was posted to youtube on April 2010. There are various other lip dubs that were filmed in Israel before these two such as the eurokemp 2010, and the Kinneret lip dub. Until facts are verified no 'firsts' or 'seconds' should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.160.219.22 ( talk) 09:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't believe I have "already said" I would shoot down anything, nor am I exercising any personal opinions. All I am saying, and you don't seem to follow, is that this is an Encyclopaedia article. It is not a directory of lib dub video links. Lists of anything, particularly when it is not explained what makes them notable, or why they, and not others, appear on the list, make for a bad article, unless it is an article specifically designed to be a list. If you can discuss the aspects of a lip dub video (such as one/minimal takes), with well chosen and specific examples, in chiefly prose, with cites, that would be far better. That could even cover "lip-dubs with most views". But a random list, with either no inclusion criteria, or an arbitrarily chosen threshold for inclusion, does not make an encyclopaedia article, and will only attract further list cruft. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 22:26, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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Continuing from an earlier discussion, would some professional videos by artists on [MTV] be considered early forms of lip dub, since it is not really lip syncing. I believe lip syncing to be the original artist singing over a pre-recorded track of their own material. And lip dub to be anyone other than the original artist. To that effect, Milli Vanilli and the woman from C+C music factory would be lip dubbers, vice lip sync-ers.
The MTVish videos I was referring to would be:
immunity talk 07:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I found this article, Numa Numa, and it makes me think that this is one of the first lip dub's that went popular. Is this considered a lip dub? The article calls it a lip sync...-- The Robot Champion talk to me 03:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
The first time the term was coined is for this video : http://www.vimeo.com/123498 Just a simple playback and he is alone ! I know many older videos on the internet doing the same thing. The term was coined long before he filmed many people doing this together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.171.32.248 ( talk) 23:25, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The list of lip dubs which are added is growing a lot, and may end up growing much more. Maybe we should create a table, so that we will only include fields such as Month/Year/University or company/ Country / Small comment of why itis remarkable/ URL to the video /. Table can be later moved to a new article, of list type, if needed.-- Jordiferrer ( talk) 21:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Title, Link | Date | YouTube Views (as of 2011-02-06) | Publisher | Location | Source(s), (Note(s)), (Citation(s)) |
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LIPDUB - I Gotta Feeling (Comm-UQAM 2009) | 2009-09-11 | 7,993,112 | UQÀM | Montréal, Canada | Uses "I Gotta Feeling" by The Black Eyed Peas. Directed by Luc-Olivier Cloutier and Marie-Eve Hebert. CNN [1] discussed the video. Its " behind the scenes" is the most watched of the universities that have uploaded them, with more than 230,000 views. |
Hey Ya: A music video | 2009-11-05 | 538,402 | Shorecrest High School | Shoreline, WA, US | Uses "Hey Ya" by Outkast. |
Shorewood Lip Dub | 2009-12-17 | 1,506,060 | Shorewood High School | Shoreline, WA, US | Uses "You Make My Dreams" by Daryl Hall & John Oates. Choreographed and filmed in reverse chronology. Rachel Ray featured the video and interviewed its participants [2] on her show. Response lipdub to a challenge [2] from archrival Shorecrest High School. |
Train - Hey, Soul Sister - Lipdub video UVIC, ( Vimeo) | 2010-05-24 | 1,130,570; 2,532 on Vimeo | Universitat de Vic | Vic, Catalonia, Spain | Uses "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. |
LIPDUB - INDEPENDÈNCIA - WORLD RECORD (Official) | 2010-10-27 released, 2010-10-24 filmed | 1,073,572 | la independència de Catalunya i la resta dels Països Catalans | Vic, Catalonia, Spain | Uses "La Flama" by Obrint Pas. Achieving a total of 5,771 participants, the World Records Academy awarded it the World Record for being the lipdub with the highest participation ever. [3] The initiative was born from a group of Catalans, promoting the cause of Catalonia independence [4] [5] [6] It has almost 1,000,000 viewers in less than two months. It is also one of the most commented videos in Youtube with more than 30,000 comments. |
LipDub "Pretty Fly" - Faculté de Droit - UdeM | 2009-11-13 releasd, 2009-11-08 filmed | 909,813 | Université de Montréal Faculty of Law | Montréal, Canada | Uses "Pretty Fly" by The Offspring and "I Fought the Law" by The Clash. |
Lipdub HEC Montréal x 2009 / Bryan Adams - Summer of 69 | 2009-04-29 | 333,693 | HEC Montréal | Montréal, Canada | Uses "Summer of 69" by Bryan Adams. |
Lipdub HEC Montréal 2009 (ISN) | 2009-03-15 | 542,448 | HEC Montréal | Montréal, Canada | Uses "Mamma Mia" by ABBA. |
LipDub EMLYON 2009 | 2009-07-09 released, 2009-05 filmed | 537,377 | EMLYON | Lyon, France | Uses "Video Killed the Radio Star" by Buggles and "Pop the Music" by Triim. [7] |
University LipDub #1 | 2008-07-02 | 254,249 | Furtwangen University | Furtwangen im Schwarzwald, Baden-Württemberg, Germany | Uses "257 Weeks" by Nine Days. The first University lipdub [6]. Lipdub reflected university life as it happens on a normal day of classes. This video inspired the UniversityLipdub.com project. [8]. |
LIPDUB ESSEC "Let's get it started" BLACK EYED PEAS | 2009-06-09 | 256,071 | ESSEC | Cergy, France | Uses "Let's Get It Started (Spike Mix) [Bonus Track]" from The Black Eyes Peas |
Don't Stop Believing LIPDUB Bloomingdale High School | 2009-12-10 | 207,859 | Bloomingdale High School | Valrico, Florida | Uses "Don't Stop Believing" (Glee version from the original by Journey). |
LIP3DUB | 2010-12-02 released, 2010-09-03 filmed | 29,187 | [Associació Cultural Lo Cirerer http://www.locirerer.org/], TV3, Obrint Pas | es:Porrera ( es:Priorat), Catalonia, Spain | Uses "La Flama" by Obrint Pas. See es:LIP3DUB. |
Lipdub HEC 2008 | 2008-12-02 | 556,494 | HEC Paris | Jouy-en-Josas, France | Uses "Lollipop" by Mika. |
Boston University LipDub 2009 | 2009-12-14 | 482,212 | Boston University | Boston, MA, US | Uses "I Want You Back" by Michael Jackson and "ABC" by Michael Jackson. |
Lipdub -somebody to love - GLEE - the Hebrew University of Jerusalem | 2010-10-10 | 156,889 | Hebrew University of Jerusalem | Jerusalem, Israel | Uses "Somebody to Love" (Glee karoke version from the George Michael original featuring Queen). Features an unofficial production of the Queen song " Somebody to Love" performed by the cast of the TV series Glee. Queen guitarist Brian May, upon seeing this film, wrote : "I ... got quite a lump in the throat. It's very well done, with great heart and joy, and I'm sure Freddie (Mercury, the late Queen soloist) would love it." [9]. Added 05:40, 30 November 2010. |
Vueling Together | 2009-12-16 | 37,354 | Vueling Airlines | El Prat de Llobregat, Spain | Uses "When Love Takes Over" (Feat. Kelly Rowland - Electro Extended) by David Guetta and Kelly Rowland. [10] |
lip dub amarillas | 2010-04-10 | 5,280 | Yell Publicidad Páginas Amarillas | Spain | |
Lip Dub Kia Motors France | 2008-10-14 | 41,123 | Kia Motors France | Nanterre, France | Uses "Big Soul" by Le Brio. |
Lipdub AOL - lip dub - Amour à la francaise | 2007-10-16 filmed, 2008-03-09 uploaded | 110,370 | AOL France | Paris, France | Also at L'amour à la Française - Lip Dub@ AOL France |
MEDEF : le lipdub | 2008-02-27 | 45,002 | MEDEF | Paris, France | Uses custom music. |
LipDub SRC Bordeaux promo 2008 - You're The One That I Want | 2008-02-29 | 32,003 | fr:Institut universitaire de technologie Michel de Montaigne | Bordeaux, France | Uses "You're The One That I Want" from Grease. |
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=difgvZfjnp8 LIP DUB ECOTECNIC 2010 ANDORRA | 2010-12-14 | 1,550 | ecotècnic | Andorra, AE | Uses "La Flama" by Obrint Pas. |
LipdUPC | 2010-05-07 | 117,046 | Polytechnic University of Catalonia staff | Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain | Uses "Hot N Cold" by Katy Perry. |
Hey Soul Sister (Lipdub MV) - CYLC 2010 Geng Ban | 2010-08-05 | 4,041 | Congressional Youth Leadership Council Dallas-Fort Worth/Geng Ban | Dallas, TX, US | Uses "Hey Soul Sister" by Train. [11] |
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ZqSyqORX4 LIP DUB UPF "Wake me up before you go-go" (Barcelona, 2010) | 2010-06-09 | 199,437 | Pompeu Fabra University Comunicació Audiovisual department | Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain | Uses " Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" by George Michael. Catalan lipdub with 1,200 participants, a former world record [12]. Participants included students, teachers and administrative personnel. The last scene included 700 persons. |
lipdub, du lycée Léonard de Vinci d'Antibes | 2008-04-03 | 18,031 | Lycée Léonard de Vinci | Antibes, France | Uses "Harder Better Faster Stronger" by Daft Punk. |
THE MHS LIP DUB: FIREWORK | 2010-12 | 213,571 | Magnolia High School | Magnolia, TX, US | Uses "Firework" by Katy Perry and "Animal" by Neon Trees. Produced by Broadcast Journalism students. The video reached 100,000 views in one week and caught the attention of Katy Perry. Deleted 01:06, 20 January 2011. |
Martin High School Lip Dub 2010 | 2010-11-06 | 34,489 | Martin High School | Arlington, TX, US | Uses "Everybody Needs Somebody To Love" by Blues Brothers and "Think" by Aretha Franklin. Included 4000+ participants. |
LIPDUB ESSCA | 2009-11-06 | 389,317 | Ecole Supérieure des Sciences Commerciales d'Angers | Angers, France | Uses "You're the One that I Want" and "We Go Together" from Grease. |
World first World of Warcraft Lib Dub: We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel | 2010-12-01 | 285,792 | World of Warcraft users. | World of Warcraft online | Uses "We Didn't Start the Fire" by Billy Joel. First World of Warcraft lipdub. |
SIPA Lip Dub - We didn't start the fire | 2010-04-26 | 1,452 | Columbia University SIPA | New York, NY, US | Uses "We Didn't Start the Fire" by Billy Joel. |
Plum High School Pittsburgh Penguins Lipdub | 2010-04-06 | 221,338 | Plum High School | Plum, PA, US | Uses "I Gotta Feeling (Taboo's Broken Spanglish Remix)" by The Black Eyed Peas. Tribute to the Pittsburgh Penguins. |
Chartiers Valley Pittsburgh Penguins LipDub | 2010-04-19 | 27,851 | Chartiers Valley High School | Bridgeville , PA, US | Uses "Hey Ya!" by Outkast. Tribute to the Pittsburgh Penguins. |
Emerson College Lady Gaga LipDub | 2010-12-08 | 888,641 | Emerson College | Boston, MA, US | Uses a Lady Gaga compilation. For the 30th Annual EVVY Awards. Added 07:01, 15 2010-12 |
UVic Lipdub (Canada) - "Haven't Met You Yet" by Michael Bublé (HD) | 2010-10-22 released, 2010-09-25 | 184,722 | University of Victoria | Victoria, BC, Canada | Uses Michael Bublé " Haven't Met You Yet". Shot in one day with just under 1,000 students. CBC News and local news outlets covered the video which reached over 100,000 views on YouTube in less than a week. The lipdub was made in 'response' to the 'UVic' (Universitat de Vic from Catalonia) ' Hey, Soul Sister' lipdub which many, including celebrity blogger Perez Hilton [13], mistakenly believed came from the Canadian 'UVic'. |
GVSU LipDub 2010 *OFFICIAL* | 2010-10-12 | 143,373 | Grand Valley State University | Allendale, MI, US | Uses "Come Sail Away" by Styx. [14] |
The Office Season 7 Episode 1 | 2010-09-23 aired | cast of the Office Season 7 Premiere episode "Nepotism" | Uses "Nobody But Me" by Human Beinz. Directed by Jeff Blitz. | ||
Office Lipdub - Queen "Don't stop me now" | 2008-11-18 | 8,809 | JDB Media GMBH | Hamburg, Germany | Uses "Don't Stop Me Now" by Queen. |
If We Ever Meet Again - Lipdub Israel 2010 | 2010-06-19 | 258,891 | Dizengoff Center | Tel Aviv, Israel | Uses " If We Ever Meet Again" ( Timbaland ft. Katy Perry). It was filmed in a public mall so actors blend in the crowd and emerge from it. |
Lipdub at Calvin College ( Vimeo) | 2010-04-26 | 79,047; 36,600 on Vimeo | Calvin College | Grand Rapids, MI, US | Uses "So Much Love" by Rocket Summer. Filmed by film production students. |
Brock University Student LipDub - Come Together | 2010-04-26 | 8,881 | Brock University | St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada | Uses "Come Together" by The Beatles. |
Lipdub NTU 2010- ??? Hey! (NTU ArtFestival 2010 ????? ?????2010) | 2010-04-19 | 21,136 | National Taiwan University | Taipei, Taiwan | Uses "??? Hey!". First known lipdub in Chinese citation needed, for the Art Festival of National Taiwan University [15]. |
LipDub Alphabeat - Fascination UAM 2009 ( Vimeo) | 2009-12-19 released, 2009-12-13 filmed | 618,084; 2,071 on Vimeo | Adam Mickiewicz University | Poznan, Poland | Uses "Fascination" by Alphabeat. Over 700 students participated. Added 00:01, 22 2010-12. |
LipDub KUL - Don't Stop Me Now | 2010-05-18 released, 2010-05-09 filmed | 162,836 | Catholic University of Lublin | Lublin, Poland | Uses "Don't Stop Me Now" by Queen. |
Lipdub video at Texas State | 2009-11-17 | 4,566 | Texas State University | Dallas, TX, US | Uses "Move Along" by The All-American Rejects. First US lipdub. Two United States universities were put to the task of producing lipdub, competing be the first. In the end the Texas State lipdub won over Suffolk University, just three days apart. Filmed by Lisa Duncan in San Marcos LBJ Student Center. |
Lipdub ISW Gasthuislaan-Madeweg : We Are Golden | 2009-12-03 | 44,130 | Interconfessionele Scholengroep Westland at Gasthuislaan-Madeweg | Gasthuislaan-Madeweg, Netherlands | Uses "We Are Golden" by Mika |
University of Guelph Lipdub - Rebellion (Lies) | 2010-02-03 released, 2010-01-30 filmed | 39,100 | University of Guelph | Guelph, Ontario, Canada) | Uses " Rebellion (Lies)" by [Arcade Fire]]. Filmed in the Thornbrough Engineering building over 5 hours and 3 takes [16]. Added 15:44, 7 January 2011 |
Arizona Diamondbacks Lip Dub, Seasons Greetings | 2010-12-14 released, 2010-12-10 filmed | 2,175 | Arizona Diamondbacks staff and players | Phoenix, AZ, US | Uses "D-backs Swing" by Roger Clyne & The Peacemakers. First professional sports team to record a lipdub. Includes 100+ employees including owner Ken Kendrick, CEO Derrick Hall, former player Luis Gonzalez and players Ian Kennedy, Barry Enright and Sam Demel. The lipdub was also the team's annual electronic holiday card sent out to fans and business partners. [17]. Added 22:57, 14 2010-12 |
Today Show Lip Dub "I've got a feeling" | 2010-11-22 | 8,216 | The Today Show staff | New York, NY, US | Uses "I Gotta Feeling" by The Black Eyed Peas. |
McGill Desautels MBA LipDub (Movember) | 2010-11-26 | 19,296 | McGill University Desautels Faculty of Management MBA Class | Montréal, Canada | Uses "Give a Little Love" by Tom Jones. This is the only MOVEMBER lipdub. Directed and Produced by Jun Yeo, filmed and edited by Charlie Bern and MBA students. Added 22:31, 3 2010-12. |
Lip Dub Telefónica On The Spot Services - ONE VISION - 40 años de Hilo Musical | 2011-01-04 | 1,822 | Telefónica | Madrid, Spain | Uses custom music. |
Sedro Woolley High School Lip Dub | 2010-04-16 | 11,238 | Sedro-Woolley High School | Sedro-Woolley, WA, US | Uses "Say Hey (I Love You)" by Michael Franti and Spearhead. Submitted [18] for a Cascades-area high school lipdub contest [19]. |
The Victoria's Secret Show: Victoria's Secret 2010 - VS Loves Katy Perry | 2010-11-29 | 486,322 | Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 2010 staff and participants | New York, NY, US | Uses "Firework" by Katy Perry. Official promotional ad. [20]. |
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First of all having a list of "recognizble" lip dubs is completely arbitrary.
Second of all some of the information about the each one is completely misconstrued. Which information is used to verify that the lip dubs in Israel were the first and second filmed there? I know for a fact that this one ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP2RPYi7fSM) was filmed in February 2010, and was posted to youtube on April 2010. There are various other lip dubs that were filmed in Israel before these two such as the eurokemp 2010, and the Kinneret lip dub. Until facts are verified no 'firsts' or 'seconds' should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.160.219.22 ( talk) 09:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't believe I have "already said" I would shoot down anything, nor am I exercising any personal opinions. All I am saying, and you don't seem to follow, is that this is an Encyclopaedia article. It is not a directory of lib dub video links. Lists of anything, particularly when it is not explained what makes them notable, or why they, and not others, appear on the list, make for a bad article, unless it is an article specifically designed to be a list. If you can discuss the aspects of a lip dub video (such as one/minimal takes), with well chosen and specific examples, in chiefly prose, with cites, that would be far better. That could even cover "lip-dubs with most views". But a random list, with either no inclusion criteria, or an arbitrarily chosen threshold for inclusion, does not make an encyclopaedia article, and will only attract further list cruft. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 22:26, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
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Disclaimers: I am responding to a third opinion request made at WP:3O. I have made no previous edits on Lip dub and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. The third opinion process (FAQ) is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes. Third opinions are not tiebreakers and should not be "counted" in determining whether or not consensus has been reached. My personal standards for issuing third opinions can be viewed here. |
Opinion: Let's get back to basics. All edits at Wikipedia must conform to policy and guidelines (which I'll collectively refer to as the "rules"). Exceptions can be made by consensus. If an edit is not permitted by the rules, an exception can be made by local consensus, but if consensus is not achieved then the rules apply and the edit must not be made. Since this list has been challenged, then it cannot be included unless consensus is achieved. One of the rules of Wikipedia is set out at
WP:Source list. It says, in pertinent part:This means that for an item to be included on a list it must be supported by one or more reliable sources, that is, reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. The sources which have been cited for the items on this list are, in almost every case, merely a link to the video itself. As such, those are not reliable sources and do not justify the inclusion of the item in this list — or the existence of the list itself. Though the hosting sites — most commonly YouTube — give the number of views, there is no rule in Wikipedia which establishes a certain number of views as indicating importance or significance or constituting a reliable source. For a single editor to arbitrarily decide such a number for this article would be prohibited original research and for that author to insist upon it would be prohibited page ownership. A local consensus could be formed here to create a local exception to the reliable source rule, but to do so would require the formation of a consensus which does not yet exist here. (And local exceptions can be fleeting and tricky things, especially when they make exceptions to principles as basic as the need for reliable sources. Since consensus can change the formation of a local consensus may only last until the next couple of editors weigh in; the original group of editors who formed the local consensus must then be very careful not to engage in a tag team to enforce the previous consensus as to do so will be prohibited multiple-editor page ownership.) Ultimately, this dispute is settled by the two sentences in the above-quoted rules which say, "The ' verifiability' policy states that if material is challenged or likely to be challenged, it is the responsibility of the editor who adds or restores the material to an article to cite sources for that material. Inclusion of material on a list should be based on what reliable sources say, not on what the editor interprets the source to be saying." Taking the last first, the number of views listed on a video site is merely the number of views. To interpret that number to indicate importance or significance is an interpretation of the source. Next, this list, having been challenged, should not be reintroduced without each included item being sourced with reliable sources other than the site on which it is hosted. If enough items can be reliably sourced to justify a list, then the inclusion of the list would seem to me to be appropriate. To close, let me anticipate the potential objection that there are many lists on Wikipedia which are not reliably sourced. That assertion is absolutely true, but irrelevant for the reasons set out at WP:OTHERSTUFF. Next to last, I would note that |
What's next: Once you've considered this opinion click here to see what happens next.— TRANSPORTERMAN ( TALK) 16:11, 8 March 2011 (UTC) |
http://www.salon.com/news/media_criticism/?story=/ent/tv/feature/2011/05/27/grand_rapids_lipdub_newsweek — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.226.6 ( talk) 12:47, 28 May 2011 (UTC)