Linspire was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||
Current status: Delisted good article |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
|
To-do list for Linspire:
|
Why does Freespire redirect to Linspire? Will this be changed once Freespire is released in August?
Try cancelling an annual subscription! It's impossible.
Block quote Dear XYZ,
We hope you're enjoying your CNR Warehouse membership!
As a courtesy to members, we just wanted to remind you that you will reach the anniversary of your annual membership in 30 days. For your convenience, you will not need to take any further action to continue your membership.
Should you need any help, visit our Support section by clicking the Support tab on Linspire.com.
When you try to cancel you get:
Warning: require_once(CNRAutoresponders.inc) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /linspire/trunk/public/linspire.com/shop/secdocs/user/mylinspire_cancellation.php on line 5
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'CNRAutoresponders.inc' (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php:/linspire/live/private/common/include:/linspire/live/private/common/PEAR') in /linspire/trunk/public/linspire.com/shop/secdocs/user/mylinspire_cancellation.php on line 5
Support is useless. This will be the second payment of $49.95 that I cant cancel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.179.42 ( talk) 20:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Criticism: I think that this distro unfairly has a very negative "criticism" section that goes out of its way to put down Linspire and make them look bad. Why doesn't the Ubuntu (Linux distribution) have a section called "Criticism"? What about other distros? Xandros has a section called "Criticism" too. But, their's is nowhere near as harsh as the Linspire article. So, the basis for the criticism is what? That it is commercial and costs money (and the Ubuntu fanboys don't like that)? I think that there should be some effort made to standardize these "criticism" sections so that it doesn't come across as the favoritism that it really is. Binaryloop 20:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok. I won't bring up the other distros as it relates to this article. But, you mentioned that "it really needs some cites" -- and that is what my complaint is centered around. Without valid citations and references to back this up it is merely a matter of opinion. Is there a time limit or statute of limitation for these citations? What if they never appear? Will this article continue to display these personal opinions as facts? Binaryloop 20:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
The "History" section has very few dates in it, maybe more chronology, date of founding, date of first release, date of start of MS suit etc. would make it feel more "history" rather than "background"...
I propose to restructure and rewrite the article to make it more cronological. It seems that Linspire is undergoing interesting developments: early lawsuits, criticism about security, announcing Freespire and open-sourcing CNR. At the moment, some of these events are referred to not once, but several times in the article. We may find that some headers become redundant and that the article can be shorter and more informative as a result. - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
This is something I struggle with. The license field currently says "Various", which means no more than "more than one", but excludes neither pure FOSS nor pure proprietary. If it is a mixture of those two categories, please explicitly say so (as in "Free and proprietary")!
Source model - I've asked for clarification on the template talk page of what this is meant to be, and have had no good answer yet. I'm not sure how useful the concept is for Linux distributions, all of which consist of a myriad packages, not all of which have GPL-compatible licenses. - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 13:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
This article is really beginning to get pretty shiny. Could do with being expanded in the history section, and some more concrete data needs to go into the technical stuff, but it doesn't read like an advert any more and it contains a lot of good information. Chris Cunningham 16:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
"As part of the licensing settlement, Microsoft paid an estimated $24 million cash (for a case which Microsoft itself brought), and Lindows, Inc. transferred the Lindows trademark to Microsoft and changed its name to Linspire, Inc." I sort of doubt that Microsoft Corporation representatives actually issued payment in the form of paper "cash". Also, it was stated previosly in the section that Microsoft had filed the suit, so is the "(for a case which Microsoft itself brought)" part really necessary? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.224.39.161 ( talk) 06:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
"Cash" doesn't necessarily mean paper money. In this context, it means $24 million in actual unrestricted money, as opposed to $24 million in stock, for example. 209.226.83.230 17:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The "open source support" section seems one sided. Linspire is a frequently criticised and ignored by the community due to having the largest amount of proprietary software in their systems, but this section makes them sound like a pillar of the community.
Also, that section makes it sond like they translated the OS into many languages, when in fact most of the translation was there before they even arrived, and most of the work after they arrived was done by other distros. They contributed a bit, probably, but their work is very much the minority.
And what does the 90% "of Linspire applications" refer to? Is that 90% of the applications in their distro? Or 90% of the proprietary stuff they lump on top of the OS? Gronky 13:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I've removed this from the "open source support" section:
These are two Linspire business ventures, not open source support initiatives. I've moved that text here instead of deleting it because maybe it should go elsewhere in the article. Gronky 03:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Linspire's website states that Linspire is "Powered by Ubuntu". That means that Linspire is not directly based on Debian anymore.
Image:Linspire.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 00:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Image:Linspire.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 00:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
In order to uphold the quality of Wikipedia:Good articles, all articles listed as Good articles are being reviewed against the GA criteria as part of the GA project quality task force. While all the hard work that has gone into this article is appreciated, unfortunately, as of November 1, 2008, this article fails to satisfy the criteria, as detailed below. For that reason, the article has been delisted from WP:GA. However, if improvements are made bringing the article up to standards, the article may be nominated at WP:GAN. If you feel this decision has been made in error, you may seek remediation at WP:GAR.
-- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 03:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 6 external links on Linspire. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 12:57, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Linspire. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8364062244.htmlWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 21:10, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Linspire was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||
Current status: Delisted good article |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
|
To-do list for Linspire:
|
Why does Freespire redirect to Linspire? Will this be changed once Freespire is released in August?
Try cancelling an annual subscription! It's impossible.
Block quote Dear XYZ,
We hope you're enjoying your CNR Warehouse membership!
As a courtesy to members, we just wanted to remind you that you will reach the anniversary of your annual membership in 30 days. For your convenience, you will not need to take any further action to continue your membership.
Should you need any help, visit our Support section by clicking the Support tab on Linspire.com.
When you try to cancel you get:
Warning: require_once(CNRAutoresponders.inc) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /linspire/trunk/public/linspire.com/shop/secdocs/user/mylinspire_cancellation.php on line 5
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'CNRAutoresponders.inc' (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php:/linspire/live/private/common/include:/linspire/live/private/common/PEAR') in /linspire/trunk/public/linspire.com/shop/secdocs/user/mylinspire_cancellation.php on line 5
Support is useless. This will be the second payment of $49.95 that I cant cancel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.179.42 ( talk) 20:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Criticism: I think that this distro unfairly has a very negative "criticism" section that goes out of its way to put down Linspire and make them look bad. Why doesn't the Ubuntu (Linux distribution) have a section called "Criticism"? What about other distros? Xandros has a section called "Criticism" too. But, their's is nowhere near as harsh as the Linspire article. So, the basis for the criticism is what? That it is commercial and costs money (and the Ubuntu fanboys don't like that)? I think that there should be some effort made to standardize these "criticism" sections so that it doesn't come across as the favoritism that it really is. Binaryloop 20:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok. I won't bring up the other distros as it relates to this article. But, you mentioned that "it really needs some cites" -- and that is what my complaint is centered around. Without valid citations and references to back this up it is merely a matter of opinion. Is there a time limit or statute of limitation for these citations? What if they never appear? Will this article continue to display these personal opinions as facts? Binaryloop 20:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
The "History" section has very few dates in it, maybe more chronology, date of founding, date of first release, date of start of MS suit etc. would make it feel more "history" rather than "background"...
I propose to restructure and rewrite the article to make it more cronological. It seems that Linspire is undergoing interesting developments: early lawsuits, criticism about security, announcing Freespire and open-sourcing CNR. At the moment, some of these events are referred to not once, but several times in the article. We may find that some headers become redundant and that the article can be shorter and more informative as a result. - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
This is something I struggle with. The license field currently says "Various", which means no more than "more than one", but excludes neither pure FOSS nor pure proprietary. If it is a mixture of those two categories, please explicitly say so (as in "Free and proprietary")!
Source model - I've asked for clarification on the template talk page of what this is meant to be, and have had no good answer yet. I'm not sure how useful the concept is for Linux distributions, all of which consist of a myriad packages, not all of which have GPL-compatible licenses. - Samsara ( talk • contribs) 13:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
This article is really beginning to get pretty shiny. Could do with being expanded in the history section, and some more concrete data needs to go into the technical stuff, but it doesn't read like an advert any more and it contains a lot of good information. Chris Cunningham 16:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
"As part of the licensing settlement, Microsoft paid an estimated $24 million cash (for a case which Microsoft itself brought), and Lindows, Inc. transferred the Lindows trademark to Microsoft and changed its name to Linspire, Inc." I sort of doubt that Microsoft Corporation representatives actually issued payment in the form of paper "cash". Also, it was stated previosly in the section that Microsoft had filed the suit, so is the "(for a case which Microsoft itself brought)" part really necessary? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.224.39.161 ( talk) 06:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
"Cash" doesn't necessarily mean paper money. In this context, it means $24 million in actual unrestricted money, as opposed to $24 million in stock, for example. 209.226.83.230 17:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The "open source support" section seems one sided. Linspire is a frequently criticised and ignored by the community due to having the largest amount of proprietary software in their systems, but this section makes them sound like a pillar of the community.
Also, that section makes it sond like they translated the OS into many languages, when in fact most of the translation was there before they even arrived, and most of the work after they arrived was done by other distros. They contributed a bit, probably, but their work is very much the minority.
And what does the 90% "of Linspire applications" refer to? Is that 90% of the applications in their distro? Or 90% of the proprietary stuff they lump on top of the OS? Gronky 13:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I've removed this from the "open source support" section:
These are two Linspire business ventures, not open source support initiatives. I've moved that text here instead of deleting it because maybe it should go elsewhere in the article. Gronky 03:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Linspire's website states that Linspire is "Powered by Ubuntu". That means that Linspire is not directly based on Debian anymore.
Image:Linspire.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 00:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Image:Linspire.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 00:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
In order to uphold the quality of Wikipedia:Good articles, all articles listed as Good articles are being reviewed against the GA criteria as part of the GA project quality task force. While all the hard work that has gone into this article is appreciated, unfortunately, as of November 1, 2008, this article fails to satisfy the criteria, as detailed below. For that reason, the article has been delisted from WP:GA. However, if improvements are made bringing the article up to standards, the article may be nominated at WP:GAN. If you feel this decision has been made in error, you may seek remediation at WP:GAR.
-- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 03:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 6 external links on Linspire. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 12:57, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Linspire. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8364062244.htmlWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 18 January 2022).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 21:10, 23 December 2017 (UTC)