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Please let's discuss certain things before changing them.
Thanks as always for the other contributions! -- SFoskett 14:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I meant it is not appropriate to say MKZ, aka Zephyr. The MKZ will not also be known as the Zephyr. The car has one name, as of 2007 it will be just the MKZ and for the 2006 model its just Zephyr. One could list both names in the name box, but that would be inappropriate. I think the way it is right know is just best; only mention MKZ as the name on this site (no aka) and keep the 2006 section in tact on the Zephyr page. My other concern is the transmission being listed twice, once in the infobox. Also if dimensions are listed in the infobox on the MKZ don't we have to do the same on all other pages, in order to create unity among car pages? Anyways, the way it is right now is okay, the infobox aligns nicely with section lines. Thanks. Gerdbrendel 00:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello, folks. I'd just like to ask why this article was moved from Lincoln Zephyr in the first place. Regardless of what it's going to become in the future, the fact is, right now the Lincoln MKZ doesn't exist, but the Lincoln Zephyr does. I think it was a premature and imprudent choice to move the article, and so I propose that it is returned to Lincoln Zephyr. Thanks in advance for your input. Airline 00:00, 10 February 2006 (UTC) p.s., Why is the Zephyr spoken of in the past tense in the article? It's still in production! There's no reason for all of these premature name changes. Until the 2007 model year, it is the Lincoln Zephyr, not the Lincoln MKZ. Airline
That's why there is a mention for the 2006 Zephyr on the Lincoln Zephyr article, just like there was before. This article solely describes the MKZ which will come to the market as 2007. That's also why got rid of the "aka" in the table, becuase you're right its the Zephyr for 2006, and the MKZ for 2007. Thanks. Gerdbrendel 02:55, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
If you would check the power ratings for the duratec 35 V6 engine you will see that it has actually been rated at around 270/275 hp and 250 or so lb ft of torque. I don't know the exact numbers but if you google it you'll be sure to find it, i remember reading this on www.jalopnik.com, as well as autoblog, and edmunds inside line or karl on cars blog (This unsigned comment was left by 68.73.7.219)
The Lincoln MKZ will use the same AISIN transmission in the Zephyr not the 6F transmission. If you go to the Ford Media webpage the gear rations for the 2007 MKZ and 2006 Zephyr are the same. The MKX will be using the 6F transmission and it has a different set of gear ratios. Also I work for Ford and the sourcing guide shows that the 6F is only being used in the Edge/MKX for 2007.
I think that we should merge this article with Lincoln MKZ, leaving this page as a re-direct so that anyone searching for the Zephyr will be redirected to the MKZ. The article needs to be expanded, but how can you expand the article when the car was just made for one year, and then technically just renamed. I say merge the two, making sure it still says Lincoln's car for this platform was called the Zephyr originally and after the first model year changed to the MKZ. If it is written properly it will look just fine. 67.59.10.54 02:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I like the idea of making the Lincoln Zephyr about the classic Zephyr. At the top can't we just put something like on the Ford Taurus page, like "for the 2006-present Lincoln Zephyr/MKZ click here" to direct? 67.59.10.54 01:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
The Lincoln Zephyr is its own model series. The Lincoln MKZ, though basically the same car, is indeed the replacement for the Zephyr. The article for the Zephyr should be entirely accurate, describing both the antique generations and the new generation, simply because the new generation didn't last particularly long doesn't mean it isn't a Zephyr. For whatever strange marketing reason, they have decided to no longer make this car a part of the Zephyr model series, they might eventually bring the name back for an entirely different car, but as it stands, the MKZ is a distinct model from the Zephyr and should be treated as such, even though it is rather similar. It mentions in the MKZ article that it was the replacement for the Zephyr, and that is the accurate statement. Similarly, it states in the Zephyr article that it was replaced by the MKZ.
Should definitely be merged with Lincoln Zyphyr. It's the exact same car, folks. The decision to change the name of the model without any significant modifications to the product is due to Lincoln's continued struggle with identity. They are renaming all their products "MK__." The "MK" is shorthand for "Mark" which has relevance to their former Lincoln Mark VIII car line. -- Heavy 18:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I think The 2006 Zephyr info should be merged with the MKZ article and a link given at the top of the Zephyr page, it really is the same car, with only the most minor of changes between the 2 cars. SimonX 06:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't get why my Image keeps getting reverted. It is crystal clear, well lit, and of better quality of the previous photo. It is also at a better angle. Karrmann 19:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Lincoln LS
Lincoln MKZ
Lincoln Town Car
My contention is that these images are not in the normal formatting convention of wikpedia. I tried to look elsewhere, but I can't find any instances where someone has butchered a picture like this for the sake of formatting. The person doing the inserts claims it is better than a candid street shot. Too much POV and artistic endeavour?
What say you?
CJ DUB 20:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
With all due respect, fellow wikipedian, I would prefer that the images be left unmanipulated or manipulated by someone who does graphics editing for a living. A rainbow background is neither "fancy" nor encyclopedic. It is distracting to the point of being irritating. Perhaps a white background will improve matters... Had your creativity been an obvious improvement by consenus of more than youself (and I see, another user on your talk page), all's well and good, but these images are really pushing it. A street shot is perfectly acceptable, as long as there is no dreadful techincal flaw, though granted, there aren't many decent "natural" shots of Lincoln cars around. I've submitted a question on the talk page of WP:IUP. vLaDsINgEr 14:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
The "nays" have it. I'm changing the doctored images to the more typical street shots. Do not re-insert them. CJ DUB 13:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Just merged the Zephyr article with the MKZ, I have saved the Zephyr article on my user page in case anyone has any complaints. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laxplayer630 ( talk • contribs) 02:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Why is there no separate article for the Zephyr when it has an extremely long history of being one of the predominate luxury cars in the 1930s? Second, this article follows no standards in having a "slashie" title. See for example, how the Porsche 911 article is laid out. Rizla 17:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Was there AWD in 2006? the old Zephyr infobox said yes, but other info in the article suggests no. I'm inclined to think no and am going to change that info in the infobox until otherwise shown.
To clarify this note, I wiped 3 infoboxes into one, since the Zephyr and MKZ are essentially the same vehicle, and did not need three very similar infoboxes. Article is much better now. TheHYPO ( talk) 03:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
It is most clearly a hatchback. About.com is not an acceptable source, IMHO. Stardude82 ( talk) 20:04, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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It's a Lincoln, after all. But I keep getting reverted when I add "luxury" 137.25.35.93 ( talk) 22:42, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
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Please let's discuss certain things before changing them.
Thanks as always for the other contributions! -- SFoskett 14:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
I meant it is not appropriate to say MKZ, aka Zephyr. The MKZ will not also be known as the Zephyr. The car has one name, as of 2007 it will be just the MKZ and for the 2006 model its just Zephyr. One could list both names in the name box, but that would be inappropriate. I think the way it is right know is just best; only mention MKZ as the name on this site (no aka) and keep the 2006 section in tact on the Zephyr page. My other concern is the transmission being listed twice, once in the infobox. Also if dimensions are listed in the infobox on the MKZ don't we have to do the same on all other pages, in order to create unity among car pages? Anyways, the way it is right now is okay, the infobox aligns nicely with section lines. Thanks. Gerdbrendel 00:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello, folks. I'd just like to ask why this article was moved from Lincoln Zephyr in the first place. Regardless of what it's going to become in the future, the fact is, right now the Lincoln MKZ doesn't exist, but the Lincoln Zephyr does. I think it was a premature and imprudent choice to move the article, and so I propose that it is returned to Lincoln Zephyr. Thanks in advance for your input. Airline 00:00, 10 February 2006 (UTC) p.s., Why is the Zephyr spoken of in the past tense in the article? It's still in production! There's no reason for all of these premature name changes. Until the 2007 model year, it is the Lincoln Zephyr, not the Lincoln MKZ. Airline
That's why there is a mention for the 2006 Zephyr on the Lincoln Zephyr article, just like there was before. This article solely describes the MKZ which will come to the market as 2007. That's also why got rid of the "aka" in the table, becuase you're right its the Zephyr for 2006, and the MKZ for 2007. Thanks. Gerdbrendel 02:55, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
If you would check the power ratings for the duratec 35 V6 engine you will see that it has actually been rated at around 270/275 hp and 250 or so lb ft of torque. I don't know the exact numbers but if you google it you'll be sure to find it, i remember reading this on www.jalopnik.com, as well as autoblog, and edmunds inside line or karl on cars blog (This unsigned comment was left by 68.73.7.219)
The Lincoln MKZ will use the same AISIN transmission in the Zephyr not the 6F transmission. If you go to the Ford Media webpage the gear rations for the 2007 MKZ and 2006 Zephyr are the same. The MKX will be using the 6F transmission and it has a different set of gear ratios. Also I work for Ford and the sourcing guide shows that the 6F is only being used in the Edge/MKX for 2007.
I think that we should merge this article with Lincoln MKZ, leaving this page as a re-direct so that anyone searching for the Zephyr will be redirected to the MKZ. The article needs to be expanded, but how can you expand the article when the car was just made for one year, and then technically just renamed. I say merge the two, making sure it still says Lincoln's car for this platform was called the Zephyr originally and after the first model year changed to the MKZ. If it is written properly it will look just fine. 67.59.10.54 02:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I like the idea of making the Lincoln Zephyr about the classic Zephyr. At the top can't we just put something like on the Ford Taurus page, like "for the 2006-present Lincoln Zephyr/MKZ click here" to direct? 67.59.10.54 01:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
The Lincoln Zephyr is its own model series. The Lincoln MKZ, though basically the same car, is indeed the replacement for the Zephyr. The article for the Zephyr should be entirely accurate, describing both the antique generations and the new generation, simply because the new generation didn't last particularly long doesn't mean it isn't a Zephyr. For whatever strange marketing reason, they have decided to no longer make this car a part of the Zephyr model series, they might eventually bring the name back for an entirely different car, but as it stands, the MKZ is a distinct model from the Zephyr and should be treated as such, even though it is rather similar. It mentions in the MKZ article that it was the replacement for the Zephyr, and that is the accurate statement. Similarly, it states in the Zephyr article that it was replaced by the MKZ.
Should definitely be merged with Lincoln Zyphyr. It's the exact same car, folks. The decision to change the name of the model without any significant modifications to the product is due to Lincoln's continued struggle with identity. They are renaming all their products "MK__." The "MK" is shorthand for "Mark" which has relevance to their former Lincoln Mark VIII car line. -- Heavy 18:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I think The 2006 Zephyr info should be merged with the MKZ article and a link given at the top of the Zephyr page, it really is the same car, with only the most minor of changes between the 2 cars. SimonX 06:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't get why my Image keeps getting reverted. It is crystal clear, well lit, and of better quality of the previous photo. It is also at a better angle. Karrmann 19:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Lincoln LS
Lincoln MKZ
Lincoln Town Car
My contention is that these images are not in the normal formatting convention of wikpedia. I tried to look elsewhere, but I can't find any instances where someone has butchered a picture like this for the sake of formatting. The person doing the inserts claims it is better than a candid street shot. Too much POV and artistic endeavour?
What say you?
CJ DUB 20:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
With all due respect, fellow wikipedian, I would prefer that the images be left unmanipulated or manipulated by someone who does graphics editing for a living. A rainbow background is neither "fancy" nor encyclopedic. It is distracting to the point of being irritating. Perhaps a white background will improve matters... Had your creativity been an obvious improvement by consenus of more than youself (and I see, another user on your talk page), all's well and good, but these images are really pushing it. A street shot is perfectly acceptable, as long as there is no dreadful techincal flaw, though granted, there aren't many decent "natural" shots of Lincoln cars around. I've submitted a question on the talk page of WP:IUP. vLaDsINgEr 14:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
The "nays" have it. I'm changing the doctored images to the more typical street shots. Do not re-insert them. CJ DUB 13:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Just merged the Zephyr article with the MKZ, I have saved the Zephyr article on my user page in case anyone has any complaints. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laxplayer630 ( talk • contribs) 02:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Why is there no separate article for the Zephyr when it has an extremely long history of being one of the predominate luxury cars in the 1930s? Second, this article follows no standards in having a "slashie" title. See for example, how the Porsche 911 article is laid out. Rizla 17:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Was there AWD in 2006? the old Zephyr infobox said yes, but other info in the article suggests no. I'm inclined to think no and am going to change that info in the infobox until otherwise shown.
To clarify this note, I wiped 3 infoboxes into one, since the Zephyr and MKZ are essentially the same vehicle, and did not need three very similar infoboxes. Article is much better now. TheHYPO ( talk) 03:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
It is most clearly a hatchback. About.com is not an acceptable source, IMHO. Stardude82 ( talk) 20:04, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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It's a Lincoln, after all. But I keep getting reverted when I add "luxury" 137.25.35.93 ( talk) 22:42, 23 February 2019 (UTC)