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I changed this from 'apostasy' to court challenge re religious conversion. Apostasy is a loaded non-neutral term, and not how most would understand this case. I feel the terminology I have inserted is descriptive and more neutral.
Any particular reason this article uses the spelling "Syariah", rather than the more common " Sharia" that is used by both the sources for this article, and our own article on the subject? -- Delirium 03:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
is this really "news" or just an attack on islam? why is this singled out and put on the frontpage? have you heard this make a frontpage story in any other news media?
wikipedia didn't have any new news to put on frontpage so they decided to publish one attacking islam.
this is disgusting, be fair and don't single out particular religion.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.80.113.51 ( talk • contribs)
this has been going on ever since the beginning of the christian religion. we christians should take this as a complement, as Christ told us that we should rejoice that we are persecuted in His name. -- 69.67.230.98 03:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
In response to the 'what is worthy front page news?' question I thought I would point out what CNN currently has in their "top stories" section. -'I'm dead,' tumbling skydiver told helmet cam -Artist unveils $98M diamond skull -Fast talker tells '3 Little Pigs' in 13 seconds -Jail countdown on for Paris Hilton -Freaky two-tone lobster spared boiling pot www.cnn.com June 1st 2007 So I don't know that what the major news outlets cover is a good standard. Mbarden 21:38, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Definitely not an attack on Islam. Very interesting story though and a major case that could affect many people in Malaysia. 64.94.47.117 14:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Although granted, the supression of religious freedom anywhere in the world is news worthy, I question if this would receive the same response on Wikipedia were she converting to Buddhism, or another non-western based organised religion. Without doubt more sensationalist News networks wouldn't treat it with the same attention. But would we? Neobros 17:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
But seriously , i find it weird that a case that happened 5 days ago and counting, could still be highlighted as top news. Personally i think someone is bringing political issues into Wikipedia which really bugs me up. Its a free encyclopedia, not Pravda of the our generation, it should make information available to all, not shove selective information down people's throats. I would think since the five days Lina joy has been in Malaysian newspapers, alot of other more news worthy things has happened all around the world. Are you saying Lina Joy is more newsworthy than the JFK Airport terrorist plot, or the G8 riots, which by the way is a big news item here in Germany? Why dont i see that article highlighted in the news section? So im asking, who is turning Wikipedia into a political tool? You should be ashamed of yourself. I say, Lina Joy should be highlighted as a news item on the main page of Wikipedia but only for so long as it is the current breakthrough news item,for there are many more articles that requires highlighting to serve educational needs of others.
While I hardly want to jump on the Defense-of-Islam trolling bandwagon, it is curious that the article quotes the dissent but does not quote the actual ruling. Presumably, the court ruled in this way for a reason, and not simply because the judges are terrible theocratic chauvanists. Can someone with access get something relevant up there to present both sides of the issue? I suspect the court ruled according to jurisdiction conflicts, not ideological conflicts. -- Joshua BishopRoby 22:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
This seems like an item better suited to Wikinews; should be transwiki'ed there to go with the other stories. -- phoebe/( talk) 21:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I have failed this article based on the requirements of the GA criteria. The main reason for doing so is that it does not meet the broad requirement. Continue to seek out more sources and split up the information into headings by topic. An infobox would also be beneficial, look at WP:Bio to find the most appropriate one. Also more citations could be added and some sentences should be cleaned up some, including "It had been hoped that Joy's case..." (it had been hoped by who?; and where's the source?). Consider getting a peer review to see how to expand the article. Once you think you have addressed these issues, look over the criteria and see if you believe the article meets the criteria. Then renominate again. If you believe this review is in error, you can seek an alternate review at Wikipedia:Good article review, and if you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
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I changed this from 'apostasy' to court challenge re religious conversion. Apostasy is a loaded non-neutral term, and not how most would understand this case. I feel the terminology I have inserted is descriptive and more neutral.
Any particular reason this article uses the spelling "Syariah", rather than the more common " Sharia" that is used by both the sources for this article, and our own article on the subject? -- Delirium 03:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
is this really "news" or just an attack on islam? why is this singled out and put on the frontpage? have you heard this make a frontpage story in any other news media?
wikipedia didn't have any new news to put on frontpage so they decided to publish one attacking islam.
this is disgusting, be fair and don't single out particular religion.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.80.113.51 ( talk • contribs)
this has been going on ever since the beginning of the christian religion. we christians should take this as a complement, as Christ told us that we should rejoice that we are persecuted in His name. -- 69.67.230.98 03:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
In response to the 'what is worthy front page news?' question I thought I would point out what CNN currently has in their "top stories" section. -'I'm dead,' tumbling skydiver told helmet cam -Artist unveils $98M diamond skull -Fast talker tells '3 Little Pigs' in 13 seconds -Jail countdown on for Paris Hilton -Freaky two-tone lobster spared boiling pot www.cnn.com June 1st 2007 So I don't know that what the major news outlets cover is a good standard. Mbarden 21:38, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Definitely not an attack on Islam. Very interesting story though and a major case that could affect many people in Malaysia. 64.94.47.117 14:33, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Although granted, the supression of religious freedom anywhere in the world is news worthy, I question if this would receive the same response on Wikipedia were she converting to Buddhism, or another non-western based organised religion. Without doubt more sensationalist News networks wouldn't treat it with the same attention. But would we? Neobros 17:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
But seriously , i find it weird that a case that happened 5 days ago and counting, could still be highlighted as top news. Personally i think someone is bringing political issues into Wikipedia which really bugs me up. Its a free encyclopedia, not Pravda of the our generation, it should make information available to all, not shove selective information down people's throats. I would think since the five days Lina joy has been in Malaysian newspapers, alot of other more news worthy things has happened all around the world. Are you saying Lina Joy is more newsworthy than the JFK Airport terrorist plot, or the G8 riots, which by the way is a big news item here in Germany? Why dont i see that article highlighted in the news section? So im asking, who is turning Wikipedia into a political tool? You should be ashamed of yourself. I say, Lina Joy should be highlighted as a news item on the main page of Wikipedia but only for so long as it is the current breakthrough news item,for there are many more articles that requires highlighting to serve educational needs of others.
While I hardly want to jump on the Defense-of-Islam trolling bandwagon, it is curious that the article quotes the dissent but does not quote the actual ruling. Presumably, the court ruled in this way for a reason, and not simply because the judges are terrible theocratic chauvanists. Can someone with access get something relevant up there to present both sides of the issue? I suspect the court ruled according to jurisdiction conflicts, not ideological conflicts. -- Joshua BishopRoby 22:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
This seems like an item better suited to Wikinews; should be transwiki'ed there to go with the other stories. -- phoebe/( talk) 21:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
I have failed this article based on the requirements of the GA criteria. The main reason for doing so is that it does not meet the broad requirement. Continue to seek out more sources and split up the information into headings by topic. An infobox would also be beneficial, look at WP:Bio to find the most appropriate one. Also more citations could be added and some sentences should be cleaned up some, including "It had been hoped that Joy's case..." (it had been hoped by who?; and where's the source?). Consider getting a peer review to see how to expand the article. Once you think you have addressed these issues, look over the criteria and see if you believe the article meets the criteria. Then renominate again. If you believe this review is in error, you can seek an alternate review at Wikipedia:Good article review, and if you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
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