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Limewire is illegal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewOne ( talk • contribs) 20:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, yes actually. You can download music for free, and that is considered illegal. But, if you download a song from a place such as LimeWire, you can keep it on your computer for only 24 hours before it is considered illegal. And during those 24 hours, you cannot burn it to CD, save it somewhere else, etc. You can only listen to it. I asked my aunt and uncle this (As the recently graduated from law school) and they confirmed what I said. 66.60.210.32 ( talk) 11:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
The judges ruling is INSANE as aswell as not legal. Where is the restraining order to stop every computer from being able to have illegal software copied to it? or one stopping DVD recorders etc etc, when they are obviously designed to breach the copyright of shows broad casted etc. They where picked out because they dont have the money to fight it like SONY, IBM Etc would. 27.33.106.251 ( talk) 13:03, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
The reference template has been at the top of the page for some time. Are there enough references now? There is no indication who put this here. The addition of the citation was here. There were nine references and there are now 16. Also, there are a few individual citation needed tags. I really wish people who put these templates in were compeled to leave text on their reasoning. Bpringlemeir ( talk) 22:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
http://torrentfreak.com/limewire-loses-court-battle-with-riaa-shuts-down-101026/ - .:. Jigsy .:. ( talk) 21:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
As far as I am aware Limewire has been shut down. However, when I was going to edit the first sentence of the article from 'is' to 'was' I saw a comment line telling me explicitly not to. But Limewire is defunct and the article should say so. If no-one comments on this in a week or so I will make that change anyway. Smokey TheCat 13:55, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I may decide to help expand this article sometime this or next week. Anyone up for the challenge? EricLeb01 ( Page | Talk) 02:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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Lime Wire has been permanently shut down. [1] Jisjames007 ( talk) 23:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
The software is pretty much useless, since access to the servers from Limewire is blocked. Maybe someone should convert the article to past tense? 99.74.73.107 ( talk) 12:01, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371462,00.asp
Versions of LimeWire prior to V5.5.10 can still connect to the Gnutella network and users of these versions are still able to download files, even though a message is displayed concerning the injunction during the startup process of the software. LimeWire versions 5.5.10 and newer feature a "toxic" backdoor included by LimeWire Inc. that allowed LimeWire Inc. to disable the newer versions of the LimeWire software. Older versions of LimeWire prior to version 5.5.10 however do not include this "toxic" backdoor and are still fully functional.
Due to the original architecture of LimeWire prior to version 5.5.10, the RIAA nor LimeWire Inc. have the ability to disable older versions of LimeWire, unless a LimeWire user chooses to upgrade to a version of LimeWire that is 5.5.10 or newer.
Doesn't seem to be working with older versions on my mac. Could it be different for PC's? 99.74.73.107 ( talk) 02:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Might be that you're running a newer version of LimeWire on your Mac. Try installing an older version of LimeWire and that should do the trick. There have been many posts around the Net and from a large number of reputable news sources regarding older versions of LimeWire still working perfectly (although the annoying message about the injunction appears). I installed an older version of LimeWire myself (V5.4.6) on my PC and yes, the message about the injunction still appears, but I'm still able to search and download without any difficulties. So again, simply try installing an older Mac version of LimeWire and that should fix the problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PWilson3210 ( talk • contribs) 04:12, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
This is untrue, you should try it for yourself. I have downloaded 8 older versions and none of them have connected. ForNarniaAndForAslan ( talk) 23:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I downloaded 5.5.7, and it is NOT working. I did not have 5.5.11+ on my computer. As to how far back you must go, I am not sure, but I do know that 5.5.7 is deactivated. 12.41.204.3 ( talk) 23:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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The above already appears at the top of the article: On October 26, 2010, Judge Kimba Wood, a US federal court judge, issued an injunction forcing LimeWire to prevent "the searching, downloading, uploading, file trading and/or file distribution functionality, and/or all functionality" of its software.[3][4] A trial investigating the damages necessary to compensate the affected record labels is scheduled to begin in January 2011.[5]
I believe the following is also very relevant to point out at the very beginning of the article rather than in the middle of the article, either before the above paragraph or just after the above paragraph: As of October 26, 2010, versions of LimeWire including V5.5.10 and newer have been disabled by LimeWire Inc using a backdoor installed by the company into newer versions of the software. However, all versions of LimeWire prior to V5.5.10 are still fully functional and cannot be disabled unless a user upgrades to one of the newer versions. References: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371670,00.asp and http://www.gnutellaforums.com/windows/97241-lw-still-works-fine-version-5-5-10-but-do-not-attempt-use-later-version.html
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Versions of LimeWire including V5.5.10 and later are no longer "stable releases" since these versions have now been disabled by a backdoor built into the newer versions of the software and newer versions no longer work. Therefore, since these versions are no longer working and as such are not "stable releases", shouldn't the article be changed to reflect V5.5.8 as the latest "stable release"?
Please note that the "stable release" version should be changed both at the top of the article where the "stable release" version is listed, AND also under the "versions" section of the article. In the "versions" section, "The most recent stable version of LimeWire is 5.5.16." should be changed to, "The most recent stable version of LimeWire is 5.5.8 and any versions of LimeWire past V5.5.8 have been disabled by LimeWire Inc and are no longer working." —Preceding unsigned comment added by PWilson3210 ( talk • contribs) 02:36, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
On the wiki it says version 5.5.10 and newer cannot download, however I have version 5.5.6 and i cannot download. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.66.111 ( talk) 08:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
It made the news, its official, theyre gone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.95.173 ( talk) 22:17, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
As Beancrisps posts are reverted without notice (I mean without useful comment on the reason), I thought I might post it here (under a new topic) for further discussion. :)
My reply: If it hadn't broken a law, it wouldn't have been banned. However, I don't think the law it broke is right to exist, as this structure of laws has been created especially for those who oppose P2P/file sharing most: the media content industry...
I do not recognize the decisions of rogue judges. Beancrisp ( talk) 15:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Beancrisp's post were reverted by Ian for WP:NOTAFORUM, and this reflects the edit summary. Bean continued to re-post these, hence why they were reverted again by him and by me. I didn't notice the difference in his final comment, though, which I suppose was an acceptable query. EricLeb01 ( Page | Talk) 16:27, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
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If you download previous versions of LimeWire you will not be able to bypass the court ordered injunction.
"However, version 5.5.10 and all prior versions of LimeWire remain fully functional and cannot be disabled unless a user upgrades to one of the newer versions.[6][7]"
This statement is proven false easily by downloading 5.5.10 client and/or any previous earlier versions, and the references provided don't pertain to the statement. ForNarniaAndForAslan ( talk) 23:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
According to Slashdot.org, the Limewire development team has released an updated Limewire client to the open source community. It is based on the 5.6 Beta.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/11/09/042242/LimeWire-Lives-Again
14:07, 9 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfdavis668 ( talk • contribs)
http://download.limewire.com/injunction/Injunction.pdf proof -- Strangeowl1948 ( talk) 10:37, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
The article LimeWire Pirate Edition is too short, so its better if you merge it here. TheChampionMan1234 ( talk) 02:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
I would like to edit this page: There are current laws that have resulted, although may not be directly but indirectly related to the issues concerning LimeWire. I want to add information about the new law that internet providers now partake in, called the “Six strikes Law”. I propose this law as an important issue in relation to this page because it is one of the results of having illegal downloading sites. This law then also concerns matters of individual privacy as everything is being monitored and therefore, it creates restriction on the use of internet which is obviously not appreciated by everyone in this generation where the supply of “free” anything and everything is welcomed. Thus, I would like to include the criticism that this new law is probably facing and how the public and the internet providers are dealing with them. Also, I found a term, AVG, used but as a reader I had to look up what it was because it was not directly defined. I think Wikipedia pages are made to break down the simplest of things and therefore, as a reader who is new to this technical diction, I believe it is necessary to explain the simplest of abbreviations. I want to edit this page and answer the question, “What is AVG?” Overall, I will edit the subsection “Version History” to define “What is AVG?” and then I will create a new subsection about the “Six strikes Law” and the criticism that follows the new law. Pringles012 ( talk) 05:20, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
In 2010, Judge Kimba Wood effectively ended the glory days of LimeWire. This does not mean that the software no longer exists. There are still old versions of LimeWire which are functional, and LimeWire Pirate Edition. This is why changing "is" to "was" is inaccurate.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:37, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
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Its an illegal piracy-related tool. 5G increases this tools's piracy-ability. All other P2P-tools are either also illegal piracy-encouragers or are simply insecure for any further use. Microsoft and other Messenger-offerers should be advised NOT to use P2P anymore for this due to its general insecurities. Else, they are perfectly legal to use. But due to its P2P-protocol-use, they are hopelessly insecure! Please do no longer advise for downloads also due to German IT Security law civil disobedience by this protocol in question. NOT SAFE TO USE TECHNOLOGY. -- 2001:16B8:5756:8C00:2C78:35C3:4DF9:E900 ( talk) 12:20, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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Limewire is illegal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewOne ( talk • contribs) 20:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, yes actually. You can download music for free, and that is considered illegal. But, if you download a song from a place such as LimeWire, you can keep it on your computer for only 24 hours before it is considered illegal. And during those 24 hours, you cannot burn it to CD, save it somewhere else, etc. You can only listen to it. I asked my aunt and uncle this (As the recently graduated from law school) and they confirmed what I said. 66.60.210.32 ( talk) 11:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
The judges ruling is INSANE as aswell as not legal. Where is the restraining order to stop every computer from being able to have illegal software copied to it? or one stopping DVD recorders etc etc, when they are obviously designed to breach the copyright of shows broad casted etc. They where picked out because they dont have the money to fight it like SONY, IBM Etc would. 27.33.106.251 ( talk) 13:03, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
The reference template has been at the top of the page for some time. Are there enough references now? There is no indication who put this here. The addition of the citation was here. There were nine references and there are now 16. Also, there are a few individual citation needed tags. I really wish people who put these templates in were compeled to leave text on their reasoning. Bpringlemeir ( talk) 22:49, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
http://torrentfreak.com/limewire-loses-court-battle-with-riaa-shuts-down-101026/ - .:. Jigsy .:. ( talk) 21:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
As far as I am aware Limewire has been shut down. However, when I was going to edit the first sentence of the article from 'is' to 'was' I saw a comment line telling me explicitly not to. But Limewire is defunct and the article should say so. If no-one comments on this in a week or so I will make that change anyway. Smokey TheCat 13:55, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I may decide to help expand this article sometime this or next week. Anyone up for the challenge? EricLeb01 ( Page | Talk) 02:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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Lime Wire has been permanently shut down. [1] Jisjames007 ( talk) 23:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
The software is pretty much useless, since access to the servers from Limewire is blocked. Maybe someone should convert the article to past tense? 99.74.73.107 ( talk) 12:01, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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Reference:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371462,00.asp
Versions of LimeWire prior to V5.5.10 can still connect to the Gnutella network and users of these versions are still able to download files, even though a message is displayed concerning the injunction during the startup process of the software. LimeWire versions 5.5.10 and newer feature a "toxic" backdoor included by LimeWire Inc. that allowed LimeWire Inc. to disable the newer versions of the LimeWire software. Older versions of LimeWire prior to version 5.5.10 however do not include this "toxic" backdoor and are still fully functional.
Due to the original architecture of LimeWire prior to version 5.5.10, the RIAA nor LimeWire Inc. have the ability to disable older versions of LimeWire, unless a LimeWire user chooses to upgrade to a version of LimeWire that is 5.5.10 or newer.
Doesn't seem to be working with older versions on my mac. Could it be different for PC's? 99.74.73.107 ( talk) 02:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Might be that you're running a newer version of LimeWire on your Mac. Try installing an older version of LimeWire and that should do the trick. There have been many posts around the Net and from a large number of reputable news sources regarding older versions of LimeWire still working perfectly (although the annoying message about the injunction appears). I installed an older version of LimeWire myself (V5.4.6) on my PC and yes, the message about the injunction still appears, but I'm still able to search and download without any difficulties. So again, simply try installing an older Mac version of LimeWire and that should fix the problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PWilson3210 ( talk • contribs) 04:12, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
This is untrue, you should try it for yourself. I have downloaded 8 older versions and none of them have connected. ForNarniaAndForAslan ( talk) 23:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I downloaded 5.5.7, and it is NOT working. I did not have 5.5.11+ on my computer. As to how far back you must go, I am not sure, but I do know that 5.5.7 is deactivated. 12.41.204.3 ( talk) 23:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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The above already appears at the top of the article: On October 26, 2010, Judge Kimba Wood, a US federal court judge, issued an injunction forcing LimeWire to prevent "the searching, downloading, uploading, file trading and/or file distribution functionality, and/or all functionality" of its software.[3][4] A trial investigating the damages necessary to compensate the affected record labels is scheduled to begin in January 2011.[5]
I believe the following is also very relevant to point out at the very beginning of the article rather than in the middle of the article, either before the above paragraph or just after the above paragraph: As of October 26, 2010, versions of LimeWire including V5.5.10 and newer have been disabled by LimeWire Inc using a backdoor installed by the company into newer versions of the software. However, all versions of LimeWire prior to V5.5.10 are still fully functional and cannot be disabled unless a user upgrades to one of the newer versions. References: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2371670,00.asp and http://www.gnutellaforums.com/windows/97241-lw-still-works-fine-version-5-5-10-but-do-not-attempt-use-later-version.html
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Versions of LimeWire including V5.5.10 and later are no longer "stable releases" since these versions have now been disabled by a backdoor built into the newer versions of the software and newer versions no longer work. Therefore, since these versions are no longer working and as such are not "stable releases", shouldn't the article be changed to reflect V5.5.8 as the latest "stable release"?
Please note that the "stable release" version should be changed both at the top of the article where the "stable release" version is listed, AND also under the "versions" section of the article. In the "versions" section, "The most recent stable version of LimeWire is 5.5.16." should be changed to, "The most recent stable version of LimeWire is 5.5.8 and any versions of LimeWire past V5.5.8 have been disabled by LimeWire Inc and are no longer working." —Preceding unsigned comment added by PWilson3210 ( talk • contribs) 02:36, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
On the wiki it says version 5.5.10 and newer cannot download, however I have version 5.5.6 and i cannot download. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.66.111 ( talk) 08:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
It made the news, its official, theyre gone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.95.173 ( talk) 22:17, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
As Beancrisps posts are reverted without notice (I mean without useful comment on the reason), I thought I might post it here (under a new topic) for further discussion. :)
My reply: If it hadn't broken a law, it wouldn't have been banned. However, I don't think the law it broke is right to exist, as this structure of laws has been created especially for those who oppose P2P/file sharing most: the media content industry...
I do not recognize the decisions of rogue judges. Beancrisp ( talk) 15:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Beancrisp's post were reverted by Ian for WP:NOTAFORUM, and this reflects the edit summary. Bean continued to re-post these, hence why they were reverted again by him and by me. I didn't notice the difference in his final comment, though, which I suppose was an acceptable query. EricLeb01 ( Page | Talk) 16:27, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
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If you download previous versions of LimeWire you will not be able to bypass the court ordered injunction.
"However, version 5.5.10 and all prior versions of LimeWire remain fully functional and cannot be disabled unless a user upgrades to one of the newer versions.[6][7]"
This statement is proven false easily by downloading 5.5.10 client and/or any previous earlier versions, and the references provided don't pertain to the statement. ForNarniaAndForAslan ( talk) 23:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
According to Slashdot.org, the Limewire development team has released an updated Limewire client to the open source community. It is based on the 5.6 Beta.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/11/09/042242/LimeWire-Lives-Again
14:07, 9 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfdavis668 ( talk • contribs)
http://download.limewire.com/injunction/Injunction.pdf proof -- Strangeowl1948 ( talk) 10:37, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
The article LimeWire Pirate Edition is too short, so its better if you merge it here. TheChampionMan1234 ( talk) 02:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
I would like to edit this page: There are current laws that have resulted, although may not be directly but indirectly related to the issues concerning LimeWire. I want to add information about the new law that internet providers now partake in, called the “Six strikes Law”. I propose this law as an important issue in relation to this page because it is one of the results of having illegal downloading sites. This law then also concerns matters of individual privacy as everything is being monitored and therefore, it creates restriction on the use of internet which is obviously not appreciated by everyone in this generation where the supply of “free” anything and everything is welcomed. Thus, I would like to include the criticism that this new law is probably facing and how the public and the internet providers are dealing with them. Also, I found a term, AVG, used but as a reader I had to look up what it was because it was not directly defined. I think Wikipedia pages are made to break down the simplest of things and therefore, as a reader who is new to this technical diction, I believe it is necessary to explain the simplest of abbreviations. I want to edit this page and answer the question, “What is AVG?” Overall, I will edit the subsection “Version History” to define “What is AVG?” and then I will create a new subsection about the “Six strikes Law” and the criticism that follows the new law. Pringles012 ( talk) 05:20, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
In 2010, Judge Kimba Wood effectively ended the glory days of LimeWire. This does not mean that the software no longer exists. There are still old versions of LimeWire which are functional, and LimeWire Pirate Edition. This is why changing "is" to "was" is inaccurate.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:37, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
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Since the reader may not be an expert on all of this, the key question is whether the 2022 reboot/comeback is in any way endorsed by the original developers of the software. Or is it just different people who are using the name LimeWire? Can someone clarify this?-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:48, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Its an illegal piracy-related tool. 5G increases this tools's piracy-ability. All other P2P-tools are either also illegal piracy-encouragers or are simply insecure for any further use. Microsoft and other Messenger-offerers should be advised NOT to use P2P anymore for this due to its general insecurities. Else, they are perfectly legal to use. But due to its P2P-protocol-use, they are hopelessly insecure! Please do no longer advise for downloads also due to German IT Security law civil disobedience by this protocol in question. NOT SAFE TO USE TECHNOLOGY. -- 2001:16B8:5756:8C00:2C78:35C3:4DF9:E900 ( talk) 12:20, 22 March 2022 (UTC)