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Isn't his name 'Lilliburn W. Boggs'? I have seen more references to that name than the one currently posted. Jgardner 20:56, 2004 Oct 18 (UTC)
There are two Lilburn Boggs. One is Gov. Lilburn Wycliff Boggs and the other is his Great Grandson, Lilburn F. Boggs, born to one of the son's of William Montgomery and Sonora Hicklin in Sonoma, California. Dr. Thomas Jefferson Boggs was the only brother of Gov. Lilburn Wycliff Boggs. Dr. Thomas Jefferson Boggs was my Great, Great Grandfather. Gov. Boggs and Panthea Grant Boone had 10 children, 7 boys and 3 girls. Panthea Grant Boone was the Granddaughter of Daniel and Rebecca Bryan Boone. Daniel Boones son Jesse Bryan Boone is the father of Panthea Grant Boone. This information is from family history I have aquired. DRCook, West Jordan, Utah.
That headstone was erected more than 50 years after Boggs' death by a local association that perhaps did perform due diligence. Wycliff is the name in the Boggs' family bible, letters, etc (my grandfather was the Governor's direct great-great-great grandson) someone changed Wycliff to Williams a few years ago on Wikipedia (it formally said Wycliff) and it spread like a virus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RKboggs ( talk • contribs) 12:56, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
This language is absurd, paranoid, PoV, and inflammatory:
On the other hand,
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Jerzy•
t 21:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, Jerzy, for injecting a note of reason!
I recall in History class hearing that one of the BB's from assassination attempt came through Boggs nose while he was speaking before the State Senate, to which he replied something along the lines of "I told you there were a few things loose" Can anyone verify this 71.213.75.114 00:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Ok, I'm not an authority on guns but - a revolver that fires buckshot?! This seems pretty fanciful to me. More likely he was shot with a shotgun. Only response to the above post - buckshot wouldn't be BB's. Buckshot is pretty nice size, like a small ball bearing. Eggerst 22:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I just did a quick Google search and came up with Buckshot revolvers hits. It appears they did exist. 92.20.17.31 ( talk) 23:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
I posted the official portrait of Boggs. The image below has an attribution issue but I don't want to be the one who orphans or deletes it. Americasroof 01:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
At first reading this article strikes me as having some WP:POV and neutrality issues. It seems very "pro-Mormon" if you will, with some rather inflamatory language. I'm not anti-Mormon at all, so don't jump down my pie hole, I'm just "pro-Neutrality". How about a rewrite using more sources not associated with the LDS point of view? Think I'll add this to my growing list of Mo. Governor projects to work on, but it may be awhile. Anyone else want to take a crack at it first be my guest. Have a great Wiki kinda day! Sector001 ( talk) 16:09, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
The info in the article has a reference or two claiming that there was a trial of Porter Rockwell and that he was acquitted (while some other articles say he was convicted.) But, various other things I've read indicate that instead the grand jury did not find enough evidence to issue an indictment for murder. Therefore, there was no trial for murder. The Porter Rockwell article does indicate an indictment and conviction for Rockwell's jail break while under arrest, but that is a separate matter. Why the discrepancy? Is there a definitive well researched account that has all of the particulars? Red Harvest ( talk) 01:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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A Citation Needed flag is affixed to "although most of Boggs' contemporaries remained convinced of his guilt." It seems to me this phrase constitutes OR and is not neutral. As such, it should require no citation, only deletion. In addition, "cotemporaries" is ambiguous. If a citation could be found, the wording would first require a definition of who is meant by "contemporaries." Finally, Boggs remained convinced of Porter's guilt but we know of no evidence or reason for his belief. So if others shared this belief, it is of value to know it as relevant to the scene but not mistake it as adding legitimacy to the belief. I would not be too surprised to find out that in fact, someone like Porter did pull the trigger but this article should reflect the fact that we have no evidence or reason to indict Porter. But this does not mean that Boggs had no reason, we just do not know if he did have. 2601:545:4400:4CB0:227E:9BD5:EA23:44AB ( talk) 18:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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Isn't his name 'Lilliburn W. Boggs'? I have seen more references to that name than the one currently posted. Jgardner 20:56, 2004 Oct 18 (UTC)
There are two Lilburn Boggs. One is Gov. Lilburn Wycliff Boggs and the other is his Great Grandson, Lilburn F. Boggs, born to one of the son's of William Montgomery and Sonora Hicklin in Sonoma, California. Dr. Thomas Jefferson Boggs was the only brother of Gov. Lilburn Wycliff Boggs. Dr. Thomas Jefferson Boggs was my Great, Great Grandfather. Gov. Boggs and Panthea Grant Boone had 10 children, 7 boys and 3 girls. Panthea Grant Boone was the Granddaughter of Daniel and Rebecca Bryan Boone. Daniel Boones son Jesse Bryan Boone is the father of Panthea Grant Boone. This information is from family history I have aquired. DRCook, West Jordan, Utah.
That headstone was erected more than 50 years after Boggs' death by a local association that perhaps did perform due diligence. Wycliff is the name in the Boggs' family bible, letters, etc (my grandfather was the Governor's direct great-great-great grandson) someone changed Wycliff to Williams a few years ago on Wikipedia (it formally said Wycliff) and it spread like a virus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RKboggs ( talk • contribs) 12:56, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
This language is absurd, paranoid, PoV, and inflammatory:
On the other hand,
--
Jerzy•
t 21:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, Jerzy, for injecting a note of reason!
I recall in History class hearing that one of the BB's from assassination attempt came through Boggs nose while he was speaking before the State Senate, to which he replied something along the lines of "I told you there were a few things loose" Can anyone verify this 71.213.75.114 00:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Ok, I'm not an authority on guns but - a revolver that fires buckshot?! This seems pretty fanciful to me. More likely he was shot with a shotgun. Only response to the above post - buckshot wouldn't be BB's. Buckshot is pretty nice size, like a small ball bearing. Eggerst 22:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I just did a quick Google search and came up with Buckshot revolvers hits. It appears they did exist. 92.20.17.31 ( talk) 23:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
I posted the official portrait of Boggs. The image below has an attribution issue but I don't want to be the one who orphans or deletes it. Americasroof 01:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
At first reading this article strikes me as having some WP:POV and neutrality issues. It seems very "pro-Mormon" if you will, with some rather inflamatory language. I'm not anti-Mormon at all, so don't jump down my pie hole, I'm just "pro-Neutrality". How about a rewrite using more sources not associated with the LDS point of view? Think I'll add this to my growing list of Mo. Governor projects to work on, but it may be awhile. Anyone else want to take a crack at it first be my guest. Have a great Wiki kinda day! Sector001 ( talk) 16:09, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
The info in the article has a reference or two claiming that there was a trial of Porter Rockwell and that he was acquitted (while some other articles say he was convicted.) But, various other things I've read indicate that instead the grand jury did not find enough evidence to issue an indictment for murder. Therefore, there was no trial for murder. The Porter Rockwell article does indicate an indictment and conviction for Rockwell's jail break while under arrest, but that is a separate matter. Why the discrepancy? Is there a definitive well researched account that has all of the particulars? Red Harvest ( talk) 01:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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A Citation Needed flag is affixed to "although most of Boggs' contemporaries remained convinced of his guilt." It seems to me this phrase constitutes OR and is not neutral. As such, it should require no citation, only deletion. In addition, "cotemporaries" is ambiguous. If a citation could be found, the wording would first require a definition of who is meant by "contemporaries." Finally, Boggs remained convinced of Porter's guilt but we know of no evidence or reason for his belief. So if others shared this belief, it is of value to know it as relevant to the scene but not mistake it as adding legitimacy to the belief. I would not be too surprised to find out that in fact, someone like Porter did pull the trigger but this article should reflect the fact that we have no evidence or reason to indict Porter. But this does not mean that Boggs had no reason, we just do not know if he did have. 2601:545:4400:4CB0:227E:9BD5:EA23:44AB ( talk) 18:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)