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Just wondering about the Mooring section on this page. I recently read The Lighthouse Stevensons by Bella Bathurst and I didn't get the impression from that book that Stevenson invented the mushroom anchor. What is the source for the claim that Stevenson invented the mushroom anchor?
In Shipwrecks of the 1913 Great Lakes storm there is an omission. This lightship was destroyed on Lake Huron. [1] It isn't listed, and it obviously should be. It's being offsite was a contributing factor in the loss of the Matthew Andrews, which is listed. [2] See also Huron Lightship. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 20:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
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The article claims that automatic lightships were deployed in Britain in 1932. I can find no evidence of this: the first attempt at automation in Britain seems to be about 1972 with Lanby buoys (adapted from US originals) and was largely a failure. The citation is from an American magazine with a hand annotation saying that a British firm was involved in the manufacture. That is a very different matter. I can find US sources saying that these lightships were still being tested in 1950 and it would seem that they were only used, if at all, on more sheltered US inland waterways. Can anyone find better evidence? Chris55 ( talk) 14:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
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help). It also may involve the slow automation of lighthouses generally in the UK, See Carradice, Phil (30 September 2014).
"From the Skerries to the Smalls, the automation of Welsh lighthouses".
BBC. Retrieved 7 July 2015.
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12:56, 7 July 2015 (UTC)"Popular Mechanics" may be a reliable source, but someone's handwritten notes in the margin of a Googlebooks scan of it are certainly not. If there are no reliable sources for this claim it should be removed. -- Euryalus ( talk) 20:31, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 17:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
– Who calls these things "lightvessels"? Practically nobody, according to this Google Ngram. Lightship is the common name. The article itself uses "lightship" throughout (lightvessel also, granted). All of the many named instances are called "Lightship [Name]" not "Lightvessel [Name]". The "In popular culture" section has seven entries -- all using lightship. Heck, the spellcheck as I write this is fine with "lightship" but never heard of "lightvessel". And there are no non-ships discussed in the article. (A Light buoy is not a ship, but it is not a vessel either and is not discussed in this article.) Herostratus ( talk) 15:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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Just wondering about the Mooring section on this page. I recently read The Lighthouse Stevensons by Bella Bathurst and I didn't get the impression from that book that Stevenson invented the mushroom anchor. What is the source for the claim that Stevenson invented the mushroom anchor?
In Shipwrecks of the 1913 Great Lakes storm there is an omission. This lightship was destroyed on Lake Huron. [1] It isn't listed, and it obviously should be. It's being offsite was a contributing factor in the loss of the Matthew Andrews, which is listed. [2] See also Huron Lightship. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 20:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Stan
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The article claims that automatic lightships were deployed in Britain in 1932. I can find no evidence of this: the first attempt at automation in Britain seems to be about 1972 with Lanby buoys (adapted from US originals) and was largely a failure. The citation is from an American magazine with a hand annotation saying that a British firm was involved in the manufacture. That is a very different matter. I can find US sources saying that these lightships were still being tested in 1950 and it would seem that they were only used, if at all, on more sheltered US inland waterways. Can anyone find better evidence? Chris55 ( talk) 14:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
: line feed character in |title=
at position 39 (
help). It also may involve the slow automation of lighthouses generally in the UK, See Carradice, Phil (30 September 2014).
"From the Skerries to the Smalls, the automation of Welsh lighthouses".
BBC. Retrieved 7 July 2015.
7&6=thirteen (
☎)
12:56, 7 July 2015 (UTC)"Popular Mechanics" may be a reliable source, but someone's handwritten notes in the margin of a Googlebooks scan of it are certainly not. If there are no reliable sources for this claim it should be removed. -- Euryalus ( talk) 20:31, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 17:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
– Who calls these things "lightvessels"? Practically nobody, according to this Google Ngram. Lightship is the common name. The article itself uses "lightship" throughout (lightvessel also, granted). All of the many named instances are called "Lightship [Name]" not "Lightvessel [Name]". The "In popular culture" section has seven entries -- all using lightship. Heck, the spellcheck as I write this is fine with "lightship" but never heard of "lightvessel". And there are no non-ships discussed in the article. (A Light buoy is not a ship, but it is not a vessel either and is not discussed in this article.) Herostratus ( talk) 15:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)