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I've raised the format of this article as a topic on the Composers Project. -- Klein zach 07:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I just took a first look at your new biographical article. While in general I appreciate the idea of creating the separate article, I don't think that with this the problem regarding the articles size has actually been solved. Already at its present state the new article is rather large, and much is still missing. The chapter about Liszt's stay in Geneva is an incomplete stub, and there must be a chapter about the Thalberg encounter. Concerning the development of Liszt's relation with Marie d'Agoult, I stopped writing on it when in fall 1841 their first stay at Nonnenwerth ended. In 1842 there was a love affair with Charlotte von Hagn. As consequence, in November 1842 Liszt's liaison with Marie d'Agoult came to an end. (She took Charles de Saint-Beuve as new lover instead of Liszt.) When in summer 1843 they met at Nonnenwerth again, their relation was practically dead. Much came of this. Then there is the beginning of Liszt's acquaintance with Princess Carolyne von Sayn-Wittgenstein, of which nothing can be understood from your present version. The chapter about Liszt's stay in Rome (the 1860s) must be completed, the next chapter "Threefold life" must be rewritten, and the chapter about Liszt's last years and his dead must be revised.
As soon as all this will have been done you will have an article of more than 200 kB again, and persons will come, complaining about "a glacial deluge of an article that sent readers away screaming and tearing their hair in terror". From my own perspective, those kinds of readers are just lacking interest in Liszt. They want to read not much more than the nice stories about the Hungarian Liszt and the greatest virtuoso who ever lived. In other words, they don't want to learn a thing about Liszt. It is to be doubted that precisely this is the purpose of an encyclopaedia article. However, writing a good article of usual size about Liszt's life is certainly a task that nobody can solve. Unfortunately he had not yet had a chance of learning from Wikipedia how to manage a proper kind of his living. 85.22.18.193 ( talk) 08:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
This article about the life of Franz Liszt is really good. I think it should be rated as one, though just one or two small things that I think should be changed to make it better. First of all, I think someone should put a little introduction paragraph of Liszt alongside an image. Make it similar to the introduction here. Secondly, we need to find more information for the sections about the Princess as well as the List in Geneva and Threefold life sections. I would do it myself, though I'm currently at school and am not getting much time to myself. Ross Rhodes ( T C) Sign! 11:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I've managed to use Google Translate to sort the German version of Liszt's life. This does mean however that there will be many mistakes throughout the translation, though it should be good enough to be able to make sense of it and improve the article. I can't do this myself due to busy private life at the moment. I should be able to start contributing properly on Friday the 7th. Please do use this information to expand the article. We need to make this as good as possible (and hopefully make it featured), and we do need more info for Liszt and Geneva and other sections of the article.
Here's the info I got translated on Google Translate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ross Rhodes ( talk • contribs) 03:19, 7 May 2009
In the section Marie d'Agoult it says (near the beginning): During the whole winter of 1832–33, i.e., until the end of April 1833, he was involved in many social events
However, isn't winter December - February and spring March - May? George8211 ( talk | contribs) 19:45, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
In the section Early life it is written that he personally knew Haydn. This is impossible as Haydn died 2 years before Liszt was born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.70.186.10 ( talk) 07:47, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
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I propose that this article should be merge to Franz Liszt#Life — Punëtor i Rregullt5 { talk} 16:58, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
There is a new discussion at Talk:Franz Liszt#Requested merge. Crazy Boy 826 04:05, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
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I've raised the format of this article as a topic on the Composers Project. -- Klein zach 07:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I just took a first look at your new biographical article. While in general I appreciate the idea of creating the separate article, I don't think that with this the problem regarding the articles size has actually been solved. Already at its present state the new article is rather large, and much is still missing. The chapter about Liszt's stay in Geneva is an incomplete stub, and there must be a chapter about the Thalberg encounter. Concerning the development of Liszt's relation with Marie d'Agoult, I stopped writing on it when in fall 1841 their first stay at Nonnenwerth ended. In 1842 there was a love affair with Charlotte von Hagn. As consequence, in November 1842 Liszt's liaison with Marie d'Agoult came to an end. (She took Charles de Saint-Beuve as new lover instead of Liszt.) When in summer 1843 they met at Nonnenwerth again, their relation was practically dead. Much came of this. Then there is the beginning of Liszt's acquaintance with Princess Carolyne von Sayn-Wittgenstein, of which nothing can be understood from your present version. The chapter about Liszt's stay in Rome (the 1860s) must be completed, the next chapter "Threefold life" must be rewritten, and the chapter about Liszt's last years and his dead must be revised.
As soon as all this will have been done you will have an article of more than 200 kB again, and persons will come, complaining about "a glacial deluge of an article that sent readers away screaming and tearing their hair in terror". From my own perspective, those kinds of readers are just lacking interest in Liszt. They want to read not much more than the nice stories about the Hungarian Liszt and the greatest virtuoso who ever lived. In other words, they don't want to learn a thing about Liszt. It is to be doubted that precisely this is the purpose of an encyclopaedia article. However, writing a good article of usual size about Liszt's life is certainly a task that nobody can solve. Unfortunately he had not yet had a chance of learning from Wikipedia how to manage a proper kind of his living. 85.22.18.193 ( talk) 08:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
This article about the life of Franz Liszt is really good. I think it should be rated as one, though just one or two small things that I think should be changed to make it better. First of all, I think someone should put a little introduction paragraph of Liszt alongside an image. Make it similar to the introduction here. Secondly, we need to find more information for the sections about the Princess as well as the List in Geneva and Threefold life sections. I would do it myself, though I'm currently at school and am not getting much time to myself. Ross Rhodes ( T C) Sign! 11:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I've managed to use Google Translate to sort the German version of Liszt's life. This does mean however that there will be many mistakes throughout the translation, though it should be good enough to be able to make sense of it and improve the article. I can't do this myself due to busy private life at the moment. I should be able to start contributing properly on Friday the 7th. Please do use this information to expand the article. We need to make this as good as possible (and hopefully make it featured), and we do need more info for Liszt and Geneva and other sections of the article.
Here's the info I got translated on Google Translate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ross Rhodes ( talk • contribs) 03:19, 7 May 2009
In the section Marie d'Agoult it says (near the beginning): During the whole winter of 1832–33, i.e., until the end of April 1833, he was involved in many social events
However, isn't winter December - February and spring March - May? George8211 ( talk | contribs) 19:45, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
In the section Early life it is written that he personally knew Haydn. This is impossible as Haydn died 2 years before Liszt was born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.70.186.10 ( talk) 07:47, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
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I propose that this article should be merge to Franz Liszt#Life — Punëtor i Rregullt5 { talk} 16:58, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
There is a new discussion at Talk:Franz Liszt#Requested merge. Crazy Boy 826 04:05, 12 June 2020 (UTC)