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David Brin is anything but a Libertarian; consider, for example, The Postman, where the main conflict is the struggle to re-establish centralised government in the face of fanatically anarcho-libertarian opposition. Removed him from the list accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by King of Men ( talk • contribs)
Kind of morbid to have a cross denoting a Prometheus award ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.252.234.190 ( talk) 17:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I think on the science fiction end of libertarian science fictioners, at least those I've read or talked with, Robert A. Heinlein is viewed more favorably than Ayn Rand. I know she fits more to the general populace, but she didn't consider herself libertarian or a science fiction author.-- T. Anthony 05:18, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Atlas Shrugged is a as science fiction as a techno-thriller. It is in the very extended lands of SF. Anthem IS science fiction - in the same way that 1984 and Brave New World are. But Rand is not "primarily" an SF author. William Alan Ritch 14:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BillRitch ( talk • contribs)
Is there a source confirming Terry Pratchett as a libertarian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Groceryheist ( talk • contribs) 02:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Very few of Terry Pratchett's books take a libertarian stance -- Night Watch, which won the Prometheus award, may be the only one. Judging by the effectiveness of the enlightened despot of Discworld, the Patrician, one would have a better argument that Pratchett supports a Platonic viewpoint toward government. 67.119.14.201 ( talk) 02:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC) carnyasada
Does Iain M Banks count? I'm thinking of his novels about The Culture. 86.164.188.106 ( talk) 01:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
"Libertarian science fiction authors who have not won the award include..." - uh, what? Why the heck should there be such a line? Did someone get funny and insert "not"? What's going on here? 198.179.147.71 ( talk) 13:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
We don't generally speak of "liberal fiction" or "conservative fiction", but rather fiction by liberal or conservative authors; no justification is given for why "libertarian fiction" should be an exception. No source is given for the claim that "libertarian fiction is unusual because the vast majority of its authors are self-identified as science fiction authors. This contrasts with the authors of much other social criticism who are largely academic or mainstream novelists who tend to dismiss any genre classification." It appears to me that this conclusion is largely a result of the way "libertarian fiction" is being defined. If works by authors identifying as libertarian generally were included, there seems to be a good likelihood that this conclusion would appear far less obvious. It might be more accurate to say that science fiction has a large degree of overlap with utopian fiction, and as there are libertarian "utopias" as well as liberal, conservative, socialist, and fascist "utopias", works which explore the potential realization of any of these ideologies in a "utopian" setting may be categorized (or miscategorized) as science fiction. RandomCritic ( talk) 14:09, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
It's wildly inaccurate to imply that George Orwell contributed to libertarian science fiction. He was a vocal advocate of socialism. Could we either A): clarify, or B): remove the reference entirely? Samcashion ( talk) 09:52, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
While Le Guin's "The Dispossessed" can be described as "libertarian", and it certainly matches the original definition of the term, it doesn't fit with this page. The definition of libertarianism used here is the one common in modern US culture - right-anarchism, where as "The Dispossessed" is one of the clearest examples of books of left-anarchism. The page describes "private ownership of the means of production" - there is no private ownership of anything in the Utopia of Anarres. 77.124.26.41 ( talk) 02:08, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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I removed this book from notable works. There's evidence that the book and author exist, but I can't find reliable sources saying this novel is a notable libertarian sci fi work. * Iurii Vovchenko, World War 3 and 1/3rd [1] OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 17:57, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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David Brin is anything but a Libertarian; consider, for example, The Postman, where the main conflict is the struggle to re-establish centralised government in the face of fanatically anarcho-libertarian opposition. Removed him from the list accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by King of Men ( talk • contribs)
Kind of morbid to have a cross denoting a Prometheus award ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.252.234.190 ( talk) 17:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
I think on the science fiction end of libertarian science fictioners, at least those I've read or talked with, Robert A. Heinlein is viewed more favorably than Ayn Rand. I know she fits more to the general populace, but she didn't consider herself libertarian or a science fiction author.-- T. Anthony 05:18, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Atlas Shrugged is a as science fiction as a techno-thriller. It is in the very extended lands of SF. Anthem IS science fiction - in the same way that 1984 and Brave New World are. But Rand is not "primarily" an SF author. William Alan Ritch 14:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BillRitch ( talk • contribs)
Is there a source confirming Terry Pratchett as a libertarian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Groceryheist ( talk • contribs) 02:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Very few of Terry Pratchett's books take a libertarian stance -- Night Watch, which won the Prometheus award, may be the only one. Judging by the effectiveness of the enlightened despot of Discworld, the Patrician, one would have a better argument that Pratchett supports a Platonic viewpoint toward government. 67.119.14.201 ( talk) 02:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC) carnyasada
Does Iain M Banks count? I'm thinking of his novels about The Culture. 86.164.188.106 ( talk) 01:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
"Libertarian science fiction authors who have not won the award include..." - uh, what? Why the heck should there be such a line? Did someone get funny and insert "not"? What's going on here? 198.179.147.71 ( talk) 13:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
We don't generally speak of "liberal fiction" or "conservative fiction", but rather fiction by liberal or conservative authors; no justification is given for why "libertarian fiction" should be an exception. No source is given for the claim that "libertarian fiction is unusual because the vast majority of its authors are self-identified as science fiction authors. This contrasts with the authors of much other social criticism who are largely academic or mainstream novelists who tend to dismiss any genre classification." It appears to me that this conclusion is largely a result of the way "libertarian fiction" is being defined. If works by authors identifying as libertarian generally were included, there seems to be a good likelihood that this conclusion would appear far less obvious. It might be more accurate to say that science fiction has a large degree of overlap with utopian fiction, and as there are libertarian "utopias" as well as liberal, conservative, socialist, and fascist "utopias", works which explore the potential realization of any of these ideologies in a "utopian" setting may be categorized (or miscategorized) as science fiction. RandomCritic ( talk) 14:09, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
It's wildly inaccurate to imply that George Orwell contributed to libertarian science fiction. He was a vocal advocate of socialism. Could we either A): clarify, or B): remove the reference entirely? Samcashion ( talk) 09:52, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
While Le Guin's "The Dispossessed" can be described as "libertarian", and it certainly matches the original definition of the term, it doesn't fit with this page. The definition of libertarianism used here is the one common in modern US culture - right-anarchism, where as "The Dispossessed" is one of the clearest examples of books of left-anarchism. The page describes "private ownership of the means of production" - there is no private ownership of anything in the Utopia of Anarres. 77.124.26.41 ( talk) 02:08, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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I removed this book from notable works. There's evidence that the book and author exist, but I can't find reliable sources saying this novel is a notable libertarian sci fi work. * Iurii Vovchenko, World War 3 and 1/3rd [1] OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 17:57, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
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