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I don't know anything about a Libby in Lost however when looking through the articles on Lost characters this page had a single line in the Biography section "just bull shit" I thought it nessecary to delete this although I am personally unable to write a good article for the character having not heard of here before this point. I hope someone will be able to expand this page in the proper fashion. Grend3l 19:21, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Again, there is apparently a deviant attacking this page edits have been made and a hopefully accurate biography added Grend3l 19:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what it means when it says that Libby is the only tail section survivor without a blackback episode. Only Eko and Ana have had one, while Libby, Bernard, and Cindy have all missed out as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qorzm ( talk • contribs) 11:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC).
Dead in the Show —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 157.157.215.160 ( talk • contribs) 02:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC).
Was she killed when Michael shot her? His shots seemed like of off-target... did they show her dead in the next episode preview? - Joshua368 03:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
If you will look closly you will see that she has the blanket in front of her. If you watch it over and over again, you will see that they very purposly made it look like she was holding the blanket close to her stomach.
My bet is that she had something in the blanket, inadvertantly, and it acted as a bullet proof vest of poor quality. In other words, it stopped the bullets, but not the force so she was knocked out.
This will put Michael in a spot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.32.57.60 ( talk • contribs) 06:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC).
Libby is not (yet) dead. In a promo clip for ?, Jack says "He shot three of our people. One of them is dead." and then Sawyer says "Who's gonna watch after Libby while you're out playing Daniel Boone?" ShadowUltra 01:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
It is unfair to put "?" as her last appearance as Damon Lindelof has revealed that Libby's character is indeed dead but her story will be told in an interesting way through other survivors flashbacks in the third season.
Libby is quite important to the Lost storyline, as will be revealed in the season finale. We will also find out her last name in this episode, according to spoilers.-- Werthead 14:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Why the producers kill Libby, the rumors says cynthia wanna left the show to make another project
I have edited Libby's page to show the episode in which she dies as ?, I have just watched this episode and this is when she actually dies, shortly after Jack injects her with Heroin for her pain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.224.176 ( talk) 00:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
How come people say that "Dave" is Libby's flashback episode when she only makes a brief apperance. She is in Eko's flashback, does that make it hers. Or how about saying that every flshback with Sawyer in it is his. You get the point right.
No it was not, the whole episode would of been hers, not just he last 5 seconds, look at the ofical list of episodes and see who flasback it was, not Libby's, Hurley's.
"Dave" is Hurley's flashback episode, it just happens to feature a brief one-scene flashback from Libby in the closing seconds of the episode. This no more makes it her flashback episode than the Pilot is Charlie's flashback or Kate's flashback because they have brief flashbacks within it. A Libby-oriented flashback was planned for Season 3 but was dropped when they decided to kill her off. Libby will appear in other people's flashbacks in Season 3 and in Desmond's flashback in the Season 2 finale. I added a link to the statement that she will continue to appear in Season 3 flashbacks. It's about halfway down the page, Cuse and Lindelof confirm that Cynthia will continue to appear in the show in flashbacks next year.-- Werthead 14:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
obviously, "dave" is about hurley's stay in the mental institution. that's VERY obvious. but the last flashback comes from libby: it first focuses on her before the flashback right before it happens, which suggests it was not hurley, but libby. in addition, it's from the pov of someone who can see that hurley has an imaginary friend, aka libby. the "briefly" should distinguish between a normal episode and "dave," so it should stay. 71.235.167.82 18:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
If 'Dave' is considered partly a Libby flashback, and I don't believe she even had a line, then surely 'Live Together, Die Alone' would have to be considered hers. With reports stating that her character's backstory will be told through other people's flashbacks, I think it would be fair to say she had a flashback episode through another character (eg. "Dave" (through Hurley), "Live Together.." (through Desmond)) However this form should be exclusive to Libby because of the way her backstory is being told. Mtowers 19:35, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
no no no i'm saying it actually IS her flashback: the flashback is occurring in her mind. but live together, die alone and ?, which both featured her, were NOT hers. Jwebby91 21:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Technically it's telling us where the episode centric, Hurley knows Libby from. I mean, she doesn't even have a speaking part Mtowers 23:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Does the community have an agreed-upon definition for the term "centric"? Boombot 00:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Apparently not, as someone has just named "Live Together, Die Alone" as a Libby-centric episode too, even though she dies prior to this episode....I fail to see the logic of a deceased person having a flashback-- Animé Dan 08:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it should be considered that Libby was not actually on the flight. I don't frequent any of the Lost message boards so forgive me if this has already been discussed somewhere, but consider these points:
In "Fire + Water", Libby asks for Hurley's opinion on a blouse:
Hurley: "Do I... know you from somewhere?" Libby: "You mean other than the flight?" Hurley: "Flight..." (trying to remember) Libby: "Ok, turn around." Hurley: "Huh?" Libby: "Turn around; I want to try it on. [Turn] around." Hurley: "Oh...oh, sure, alright." Libby: "No peeking!" (starts to change blouse) Libby: "I cannot believe you don't remember stepping on my foot!" Hurley: "I did?" Libby: "Yes you did, and it was hard. I know that because you... you were the last one on the flight and... you were all sweaty and you had headphones on and... crunch! You stepped on my foot!" Libby: "Ok, turn around."
In "Exodus (Part 3)", Hurley is seen running through the airport, boarding the plane, and taking his seat. He is never shown stepping on anyone's foot. Also consider that Hurley was the last one boarding the plane, was seated in the front half, and would not likely step on the foot of a tail-section passenger.
Although Jack says Ana-Lucia's surname at her funeral ("Three Minutes"), no one else seems to know the tail-section passengers' last names. In fact, Hurley-- previously in charge of accounting for names on the manifest-- did not say Libby's last name at her funeral. This suggests that the Tailies were not checked against the manifest.
The strongest indication that Libby was on the plane is in the episode "The Other 48 Days", in which she is shown crawling out of the water after the crash. She is shown bruised and wet (as Goodwin was not). However, given other suspicious facts about her, I would still not take this scene as conclusive proof that she was a passenger. We do know that The Others planted at least one spy in the tail-section group and that they make use of theatrical make-up. We also know that Libby has not had a flashback episode.
In "?", Libby is shown at the airport speaking to Eko and Charlotte. This would explain how she knows of Hurley's circumstances boarding the plane, but is still not conclusive proof of her passenger status.
One last, possibly-unrelated, but interesting clue regarding Libby's suspicious nature is that The Hanso Foundation website lists a "Liddy Wales" as one of the Board of Directors. This person is the only boardmember without a headshot.
Of course it's possible that I'm stretching just a bit too much, and that Libby was in fact on the flight. Taken separately, these bits of trivia do not seem significant, but taken together they should at least open the possibility that Libby was not on 815. Either way, I have a feeling we will all know after tonight's episode. --ACR
Well, while it's OR, my theory is that - with Libby's hair changing from brown to ginger to blonde (very ALIAS), her giving Desmond the boat and other things, that she was there specifically to get certain people onto the island. She's still going to be on the show, we'll just have to figure her out through flashbacks. ~ Zythe Talk to me! 16:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
The biography section needs references. It wouldn't take much - the official site character profile is suitable for one. Any articles from reputable publications that mention the characters story arc could also be used.-- Opark 77 15:02, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Then we should cite the show directly, see List of characters from The Wire for examples of how to cite specific episodes. Nothing on wikipedia should be unsourced, see WP:CITE.-- Opark 77 11:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
"Elizabeth is supposed to have been named after Libby, so it is possible that Libby is a false name." Isn't Libby a nickname for Elizabeth? A nickname isn't a "false name" 71.235.38.144 15:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, to the person who stated her surname as "Franklin", I'm aware of the website that portrayed that, but that website has many flaws, such as the seating arrangement and the names of half the passengers. So, please don't post false information unless proven otherwise-- Animé Dan 17:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
What brought on the semi-protection of this page? - Boombot 01:50, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I went through the article to make it read more smoothly, and I took out some irrelevant details, like some lines about the Tailies that didn't actually involve Libby. The "On the Island" section still includes a number of details that just seem way too specific. Ana-Lucia's suspicion of Goodwin isn't really relevant to Libby. Also, there are no episodes cited. I'd change everything myself, but I don't like to step on anyone's toes. -- Pooneil 05:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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This statement "In an extended version of the Oceanic Six press conference, they say that Libby was one of the eight initial survivors, but died during the first week", can it really be justified with a video from YouTube? I think it should be removed. Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 12:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Just watched an interview with Damon and Carlton where they explain Libby's backstory in full, and that they tried several times to tell it but the actress didn't want to return. Link here for anyone interested. Sanders11 ( talk) 17:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Moving back to Lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/button_sig.pngibby (Lost) as per Alex (Lost). She was never known by this name on the sow so this is irrelevant.-- 23prootie ( talk) 19:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
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I don't know anything about a Libby in Lost however when looking through the articles on Lost characters this page had a single line in the Biography section "just bull shit" I thought it nessecary to delete this although I am personally unable to write a good article for the character having not heard of here before this point. I hope someone will be able to expand this page in the proper fashion. Grend3l 19:21, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Again, there is apparently a deviant attacking this page edits have been made and a hopefully accurate biography added Grend3l 19:25, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure what it means when it says that Libby is the only tail section survivor without a blackback episode. Only Eko and Ana have had one, while Libby, Bernard, and Cindy have all missed out as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Qorzm ( talk • contribs) 11:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC).
Dead in the Show —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 157.157.215.160 ( talk • contribs) 02:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC).
Was she killed when Michael shot her? His shots seemed like of off-target... did they show her dead in the next episode preview? - Joshua368 03:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
If you will look closly you will see that she has the blanket in front of her. If you watch it over and over again, you will see that they very purposly made it look like she was holding the blanket close to her stomach.
My bet is that she had something in the blanket, inadvertantly, and it acted as a bullet proof vest of poor quality. In other words, it stopped the bullets, but not the force so she was knocked out.
This will put Michael in a spot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.32.57.60 ( talk • contribs) 06:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC).
Libby is not (yet) dead. In a promo clip for ?, Jack says "He shot three of our people. One of them is dead." and then Sawyer says "Who's gonna watch after Libby while you're out playing Daniel Boone?" ShadowUltra 01:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
It is unfair to put "?" as her last appearance as Damon Lindelof has revealed that Libby's character is indeed dead but her story will be told in an interesting way through other survivors flashbacks in the third season.
Libby is quite important to the Lost storyline, as will be revealed in the season finale. We will also find out her last name in this episode, according to spoilers.-- Werthead 14:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Why the producers kill Libby, the rumors says cynthia wanna left the show to make another project
I have edited Libby's page to show the episode in which she dies as ?, I have just watched this episode and this is when she actually dies, shortly after Jack injects her with Heroin for her pain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.224.176 ( talk) 00:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
How come people say that "Dave" is Libby's flashback episode when she only makes a brief apperance. She is in Eko's flashback, does that make it hers. Or how about saying that every flshback with Sawyer in it is his. You get the point right.
No it was not, the whole episode would of been hers, not just he last 5 seconds, look at the ofical list of episodes and see who flasback it was, not Libby's, Hurley's.
"Dave" is Hurley's flashback episode, it just happens to feature a brief one-scene flashback from Libby in the closing seconds of the episode. This no more makes it her flashback episode than the Pilot is Charlie's flashback or Kate's flashback because they have brief flashbacks within it. A Libby-oriented flashback was planned for Season 3 but was dropped when they decided to kill her off. Libby will appear in other people's flashbacks in Season 3 and in Desmond's flashback in the Season 2 finale. I added a link to the statement that she will continue to appear in Season 3 flashbacks. It's about halfway down the page, Cuse and Lindelof confirm that Cynthia will continue to appear in the show in flashbacks next year.-- Werthead 14:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
obviously, "dave" is about hurley's stay in the mental institution. that's VERY obvious. but the last flashback comes from libby: it first focuses on her before the flashback right before it happens, which suggests it was not hurley, but libby. in addition, it's from the pov of someone who can see that hurley has an imaginary friend, aka libby. the "briefly" should distinguish between a normal episode and "dave," so it should stay. 71.235.167.82 18:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
If 'Dave' is considered partly a Libby flashback, and I don't believe she even had a line, then surely 'Live Together, Die Alone' would have to be considered hers. With reports stating that her character's backstory will be told through other people's flashbacks, I think it would be fair to say she had a flashback episode through another character (eg. "Dave" (through Hurley), "Live Together.." (through Desmond)) However this form should be exclusive to Libby because of the way her backstory is being told. Mtowers 19:35, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
no no no i'm saying it actually IS her flashback: the flashback is occurring in her mind. but live together, die alone and ?, which both featured her, were NOT hers. Jwebby91 21:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Technically it's telling us where the episode centric, Hurley knows Libby from. I mean, she doesn't even have a speaking part Mtowers 23:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Does the community have an agreed-upon definition for the term "centric"? Boombot 00:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Apparently not, as someone has just named "Live Together, Die Alone" as a Libby-centric episode too, even though she dies prior to this episode....I fail to see the logic of a deceased person having a flashback-- Animé Dan 08:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I think it should be considered that Libby was not actually on the flight. I don't frequent any of the Lost message boards so forgive me if this has already been discussed somewhere, but consider these points:
In "Fire + Water", Libby asks for Hurley's opinion on a blouse:
Hurley: "Do I... know you from somewhere?" Libby: "You mean other than the flight?" Hurley: "Flight..." (trying to remember) Libby: "Ok, turn around." Hurley: "Huh?" Libby: "Turn around; I want to try it on. [Turn] around." Hurley: "Oh...oh, sure, alright." Libby: "No peeking!" (starts to change blouse) Libby: "I cannot believe you don't remember stepping on my foot!" Hurley: "I did?" Libby: "Yes you did, and it was hard. I know that because you... you were the last one on the flight and... you were all sweaty and you had headphones on and... crunch! You stepped on my foot!" Libby: "Ok, turn around."
In "Exodus (Part 3)", Hurley is seen running through the airport, boarding the plane, and taking his seat. He is never shown stepping on anyone's foot. Also consider that Hurley was the last one boarding the plane, was seated in the front half, and would not likely step on the foot of a tail-section passenger.
Although Jack says Ana-Lucia's surname at her funeral ("Three Minutes"), no one else seems to know the tail-section passengers' last names. In fact, Hurley-- previously in charge of accounting for names on the manifest-- did not say Libby's last name at her funeral. This suggests that the Tailies were not checked against the manifest.
The strongest indication that Libby was on the plane is in the episode "The Other 48 Days", in which she is shown crawling out of the water after the crash. She is shown bruised and wet (as Goodwin was not). However, given other suspicious facts about her, I would still not take this scene as conclusive proof that she was a passenger. We do know that The Others planted at least one spy in the tail-section group and that they make use of theatrical make-up. We also know that Libby has not had a flashback episode.
In "?", Libby is shown at the airport speaking to Eko and Charlotte. This would explain how she knows of Hurley's circumstances boarding the plane, but is still not conclusive proof of her passenger status.
One last, possibly-unrelated, but interesting clue regarding Libby's suspicious nature is that The Hanso Foundation website lists a "Liddy Wales" as one of the Board of Directors. This person is the only boardmember without a headshot.
Of course it's possible that I'm stretching just a bit too much, and that Libby was in fact on the flight. Taken separately, these bits of trivia do not seem significant, but taken together they should at least open the possibility that Libby was not on 815. Either way, I have a feeling we will all know after tonight's episode. --ACR
Well, while it's OR, my theory is that - with Libby's hair changing from brown to ginger to blonde (very ALIAS), her giving Desmond the boat and other things, that she was there specifically to get certain people onto the island. She's still going to be on the show, we'll just have to figure her out through flashbacks. ~ Zythe Talk to me! 16:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
The biography section needs references. It wouldn't take much - the official site character profile is suitable for one. Any articles from reputable publications that mention the characters story arc could also be used.-- Opark 77 15:02, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Then we should cite the show directly, see List of characters from The Wire for examples of how to cite specific episodes. Nothing on wikipedia should be unsourced, see WP:CITE.-- Opark 77 11:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
"Elizabeth is supposed to have been named after Libby, so it is possible that Libby is a false name." Isn't Libby a nickname for Elizabeth? A nickname isn't a "false name" 71.235.38.144 15:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Also, to the person who stated her surname as "Franklin", I'm aware of the website that portrayed that, but that website has many flaws, such as the seating arrangement and the names of half the passengers. So, please don't post false information unless proven otherwise-- Animé Dan 17:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
What brought on the semi-protection of this page? - Boombot 01:50, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
I went through the article to make it read more smoothly, and I took out some irrelevant details, like some lines about the Tailies that didn't actually involve Libby. The "On the Island" section still includes a number of details that just seem way too specific. Ana-Lucia's suspicion of Goodwin isn't really relevant to Libby. Also, there are no episodes cited. I'd change everything myself, but I don't like to step on anyone's toes. -- Pooneil 05:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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This statement "In an extended version of the Oceanic Six press conference, they say that Libby was one of the eight initial survivors, but died during the first week", can it really be justified with a video from YouTube? I think it should be removed. Corn.u.co.pia ♥ Disc.us.sion 12:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Just watched an interview with Damon and Carlton where they explain Libby's backstory in full, and that they tried several times to tell it but the actress didn't want to return. Link here for anyone interested. Sanders11 ( talk) 17:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Moving back to Lhttp://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/button_sig.pngibby (Lost) as per Alex (Lost). She was never known by this name on the sow so this is irrelevant.-- 23prootie ( talk) 19:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
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