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I arrived intending to do my first GA review, but I hope that I have done more good by making a fairly substantial edit. In particular I have hoped to clarify the history and what is known of the buildings, and to get everything as close as possible to chronological order. Richard Keatinge ( talk) 12:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Ben Mac Dui 18:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC) An initial look suggests that there is some work to be done here. This may be the nominator's first GAN - if you are willing to do the necessary there is a decent chance of a pass. Let's see how it goes.
Lead: This is too short and needs to refer to each major section of the article. A date or two would be good. (It is a common mistake to think that any kind of repetition is to be avoided - the lead should summarise the main points, not just mention a few choice ones).
Etymology: WP:MOS can be hard to interpret in sections like this, but avoid single quotation marks. I can work it out easily enough but you are not absolutely explicit about the meaning of "Letoceton". (You could put it the lead...).
Natives: Did the Corieltauvi call their tribal centre "Ratae Corieltauvorum" - or is that the Roman name for it? I would expect to see a bit more information about the natives - what languages did they speak, what was their attitude to the Romans? Maybe we know very little, in which case it's quite legitimate to say so.
Posting Station: {convert|20|–|30|acre|ha} - most the others use metric--> imperial. Be consistent.
Early Mansiones:
Late Roman defences - general uprising of the Welsh tribes - which ones? I like the Reno quote in the next section, but a more general point here is that whilst the article seems to cover the archaeology pretty comprehensively I don't have much of a sense of the "strategic city" he refers to - can no more be said about the activities of the Roman legions based there in relation to the wider region? I know a little about the Romans in Scotland/Caledonia but very little about their longer sojourn south of Hadrian's Wall. This may be covered elsewhere but if so, some indication of this would be helpful.
Images:
Notes: This is adequate insofar as it goes, but the treatment of "LETOCETVM Roman Forts and Camps" etc is unacceptable. On-line refs must have, at minimum, a page or article title a publisher and a retrieval date. You should use the "ref name" system rather than repeating the same ref. See Outer Hebrides#References for a few examples if you need them.
References: |authorlink=FR & authorlink=JG link to a dab pages.
I need to break now, but I think that is most of the points covered. Ben Mac Dui 19:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for taking time to review it and your detailed feedback, most of which i agree with and will take action on. I am quite busy with work right now but will try to do some revisions within the next 2 weeks. If anyone else wants to put their input in feel free to do so. User:Bs0u10e01 User talk:Bs0u10e01 12:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I have made the majority of changes whch were needed. Those which i didn't is because i am in need of guidance how. 1. How to do alternative text for images 2. The citation problem, should i dump all the references to the roman britain website into the one citation with a,b,c,d etc after it.
Other points, The term mansiones is used in the Jim Gould book and English Heritage literature on the site so i am fairly sure its the right term. The site can only be judged from archaeological information sadly as there is little or no mention of it in relation to the roman conquest therefore i have written all that we can possibly know on the subject as we know it and i can't find any more detailed information about it as a strategic city. User:Bs0u10e01 User talk:Bs0u10e01 22:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
There are still some items remaining. A number of editors have helped out and I have used a few examples of their work to illustrate what is needed.
Ben Mac Dui 17:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I think we are pretty much there. A few points still outstanding.
User:Bs0u10e01
User talk:Bs0u10e01
15:41, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
All the edits are now complete. User:Bs0u10e01 User talk:Bs0u10e01 20:41, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
It is ridiculous to keep using this when there is no need and no ambiguity. They should be removed except for the first one. Rjdeadly ( talk) 16:40, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello! During late June, July and some of August, I'm working on a paid project sponsored by the National Trust to review and enhance coverage of NT sites. You can find the pilot edits here, as well as a statement and contact details for the National Trust. I am leaving this message when I make a first edit to a page; please do get in touch if you have any concerns. Lajmmoore ( talk) 19:05, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
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I arrived intending to do my first GA review, but I hope that I have done more good by making a fairly substantial edit. In particular I have hoped to clarify the history and what is known of the buildings, and to get everything as close as possible to chronological order. Richard Keatinge ( talk) 12:55, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewing |
Reviewer: Ben Mac Dui 18:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC) An initial look suggests that there is some work to be done here. This may be the nominator's first GAN - if you are willing to do the necessary there is a decent chance of a pass. Let's see how it goes.
Lead: This is too short and needs to refer to each major section of the article. A date or two would be good. (It is a common mistake to think that any kind of repetition is to be avoided - the lead should summarise the main points, not just mention a few choice ones).
Etymology: WP:MOS can be hard to interpret in sections like this, but avoid single quotation marks. I can work it out easily enough but you are not absolutely explicit about the meaning of "Letoceton". (You could put it the lead...).
Natives: Did the Corieltauvi call their tribal centre "Ratae Corieltauvorum" - or is that the Roman name for it? I would expect to see a bit more information about the natives - what languages did they speak, what was their attitude to the Romans? Maybe we know very little, in which case it's quite legitimate to say so.
Posting Station: {convert|20|–|30|acre|ha} - most the others use metric--> imperial. Be consistent.
Early Mansiones:
Late Roman defences - general uprising of the Welsh tribes - which ones? I like the Reno quote in the next section, but a more general point here is that whilst the article seems to cover the archaeology pretty comprehensively I don't have much of a sense of the "strategic city" he refers to - can no more be said about the activities of the Roman legions based there in relation to the wider region? I know a little about the Romans in Scotland/Caledonia but very little about their longer sojourn south of Hadrian's Wall. This may be covered elsewhere but if so, some indication of this would be helpful.
Images:
Notes: This is adequate insofar as it goes, but the treatment of "LETOCETVM Roman Forts and Camps" etc is unacceptable. On-line refs must have, at minimum, a page or article title a publisher and a retrieval date. You should use the "ref name" system rather than repeating the same ref. See Outer Hebrides#References for a few examples if you need them.
References: |authorlink=FR & authorlink=JG link to a dab pages.
I need to break now, but I think that is most of the points covered. Ben Mac Dui 19:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for taking time to review it and your detailed feedback, most of which i agree with and will take action on. I am quite busy with work right now but will try to do some revisions within the next 2 weeks. If anyone else wants to put their input in feel free to do so. User:Bs0u10e01 User talk:Bs0u10e01 12:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I have made the majority of changes whch were needed. Those which i didn't is because i am in need of guidance how. 1. How to do alternative text for images 2. The citation problem, should i dump all the references to the roman britain website into the one citation with a,b,c,d etc after it.
Other points, The term mansiones is used in the Jim Gould book and English Heritage literature on the site so i am fairly sure its the right term. The site can only be judged from archaeological information sadly as there is little or no mention of it in relation to the roman conquest therefore i have written all that we can possibly know on the subject as we know it and i can't find any more detailed information about it as a strategic city. User:Bs0u10e01 User talk:Bs0u10e01 22:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
There are still some items remaining. A number of editors have helped out and I have used a few examples of their work to illustrate what is needed.
Ben Mac Dui 17:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I think we are pretty much there. A few points still outstanding.
User:Bs0u10e01
User talk:Bs0u10e01
15:41, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
All the edits are now complete. User:Bs0u10e01 User talk:Bs0u10e01 20:41, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
It is ridiculous to keep using this when there is no need and no ambiguity. They should be removed except for the first one. Rjdeadly ( talk) 16:40, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello! During late June, July and some of August, I'm working on a paid project sponsored by the National Trust to review and enhance coverage of NT sites. You can find the pilot edits here, as well as a statement and contact details for the National Trust. I am leaving this message when I make a first edit to a page; please do get in touch if you have any concerns. Lajmmoore ( talk) 19:05, 3 July 2022 (UTC)