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Why do we need to get rid of the page, why can't we just let it stay up? There's a bunch of other pre-release pages for albums, so whyy do we have a problem with this one? Sorbet Kid ( talk) 16:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
The following table was removed from the article by User:Knowledgekid87 based on the assertion that it was "not needed". While I am not convinced that there is such a test for inclusion of content in Wikipedia, I would note that readers process information in various ways, and some will find a table to be a more useful organization of information. I propose that the table be restored to the article. Please note that I have added the newly announced London date in July. BD2412 T 19:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Date | City | Country | Venue |
---|---|---|---|
February 4 | Dublin | Ireland | Green Room – The Academy |
February 6 | Glasgow | Scotland | Warehouse SWG3 |
February 7 | Manchester | UK | Gorilla |
February 8 | Birmingham | O2 Academy | |
February 10 | London | Heaven | |
February 11 | Bristol | Thekla | |
May 4 | Cambridge, MA | US | The Sinclair |
May 5 | Philadelphia, PA | The Foundry | |
May 6 | Brooklyn, NY | The Hall, Elsewhere | |
May 9 | Montreal, QC | Canada | Théâtre Fairmount |
May 10 | Toronto, ON | Axis Club | |
May 12 | Chicago, IL | US | Bottom Lounge |
May 14 | Saint Paul, MN | Amsterdam Bar & Hall | |
May 16 | Denver, CO | Marquis Theater | |
May 17 | Salt Lake City, UT | Soundwell | |
May 19 | San Francisco, CA | The Independent | |
May 20 | Los Angeles, CA | El Rey Theatre | |
June 23 | Brooklyn, NY | Ladyland Festival [1] | |
July 2 | London | UK | Hyde Park [2] |
July 20 | Vancouver | Canada | Sound Club |
July 21 | Seattle, WA | US | Capitol Hill Block Party |
July 22 | Portland, OR | Hawthorne Theatre |
References
There has been a long-running slow-motion dispute on this page regarding the list of tour dates for the supporting album tour that ran from February 4 to July 22, 2023.
The project page,
WP:CONCERT TOUR, says that for an article on a concert tour, "Tables may be used to present tour date information, such as dates, venues, locations, and opening/support acts
". However, the essay,
WP:ALBUMSTYLE, says, "Concert tours are not always notable enough to warrant stand-alone articles (see
WP:NMG#Concert tours). Instead, information about notable tours and festivals should be incorporated into either the artist's page, or the album article for which the tour is supporting. Do not list all dates here, instead mention the range of dates (ex. June–September 1992)
".
Neither of these pages are policy, but they leave gray the question of how to treat a concert tour that is arguably notable enough to have a separate article, but can arguably more concisely be presented to the reader as a section of an article on the album being promoted through this tour. BD2412 T 15:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
“Between February 4 and August 25, Black toured the US, Canada, UK and Ireland... ”But ultimately the table doesn’t hurt anything, and this is just a question of editorial discretion. — HTGS ( talk) 02:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC) ( Summoned by bot)
This article was nominated for deletion on 7 January 2023. The result of the discussion was keep. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
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|
Why do we need to get rid of the page, why can't we just let it stay up? There's a bunch of other pre-release pages for albums, so whyy do we have a problem with this one? Sorbet Kid ( talk) 16:34, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
The following table was removed from the article by User:Knowledgekid87 based on the assertion that it was "not needed". While I am not convinced that there is such a test for inclusion of content in Wikipedia, I would note that readers process information in various ways, and some will find a table to be a more useful organization of information. I propose that the table be restored to the article. Please note that I have added the newly announced London date in July. BD2412 T 19:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Date | City | Country | Venue |
---|---|---|---|
February 4 | Dublin | Ireland | Green Room – The Academy |
February 6 | Glasgow | Scotland | Warehouse SWG3 |
February 7 | Manchester | UK | Gorilla |
February 8 | Birmingham | O2 Academy | |
February 10 | London | Heaven | |
February 11 | Bristol | Thekla | |
May 4 | Cambridge, MA | US | The Sinclair |
May 5 | Philadelphia, PA | The Foundry | |
May 6 | Brooklyn, NY | The Hall, Elsewhere | |
May 9 | Montreal, QC | Canada | Théâtre Fairmount |
May 10 | Toronto, ON | Axis Club | |
May 12 | Chicago, IL | US | Bottom Lounge |
May 14 | Saint Paul, MN | Amsterdam Bar & Hall | |
May 16 | Denver, CO | Marquis Theater | |
May 17 | Salt Lake City, UT | Soundwell | |
May 19 | San Francisco, CA | The Independent | |
May 20 | Los Angeles, CA | El Rey Theatre | |
June 23 | Brooklyn, NY | Ladyland Festival [1] | |
July 2 | London | UK | Hyde Park [2] |
July 20 | Vancouver | Canada | Sound Club |
July 21 | Seattle, WA | US | Capitol Hill Block Party |
July 22 | Portland, OR | Hawthorne Theatre |
References
There has been a long-running slow-motion dispute on this page regarding the list of tour dates for the supporting album tour that ran from February 4 to July 22, 2023.
The project page,
WP:CONCERT TOUR, says that for an article on a concert tour, "Tables may be used to present tour date information, such as dates, venues, locations, and opening/support acts
". However, the essay,
WP:ALBUMSTYLE, says, "Concert tours are not always notable enough to warrant stand-alone articles (see
WP:NMG#Concert tours). Instead, information about notable tours and festivals should be incorporated into either the artist's page, or the album article for which the tour is supporting. Do not list all dates here, instead mention the range of dates (ex. June–September 1992)
".
Neither of these pages are policy, but they leave gray the question of how to treat a concert tour that is arguably notable enough to have a separate article, but can arguably more concisely be presented to the reader as a section of an article on the album being promoted through this tour. BD2412 T 15:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
“Between February 4 and August 25, Black toured the US, Canada, UK and Ireland... ”But ultimately the table doesn’t hurt anything, and this is just a question of editorial discretion. — HTGS ( talk) 02:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC) ( Summoned by bot)