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AGONY

This page should be re-re-named back to Agony. Originally the name wasn't canon, but now it is (mentioned in-universe in Carnage U.S.A.) and also the symbiote has hosts other than Leslie Gesneria. I'd do it myself but I don't know how to make a name change. (Do you need to be registered? Because if you do that's a really really DUMB policy.) 24.191.7.238 ( talk) 00:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC) reply

Character Name "Agony"

Could fellow editors please refrain from redirecting this page to "Agony (comics)". The name Agony has never been used in reference to this character in any Marvel product or publication. Her human name is confirmed in the Spider-Man Back In Black Handbook (April 2007). "Agony" is purely a fan name used on one or two fan websites that isn't even worth a footnote entry. If a codename is going to be applied to this character then please cite an official source.

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BetacommandBot ( talk) 23:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Suggestion

Now that I think about it, the pages for Venom's kids, with the exception of Carnage and Hybrid, should be folded together. Lots42 ( talk) 10:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC) reply

Her name

  • This article says: "The names (Agony, Screech, and Shriek) are fan names for Leslie. The fan name Agony was devised as being a name suited for a symbiote that seems to be a female version of Carnage, due to her appearance and coloration." How is this fact? Is Agony the name used for her character in the Separation Anxiety game? Is it the name used for her action figure? How is this "official" and not fan-cruft? --- Silent RAGE! 02:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC) reply
  • I agree. -- ksofen666
  • This article should be moved to Leslie Gesneria due to original research then. Gurko 17:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC) reply
Someone keeps moving these symbiote pages back to the fancruft names. This page needs to be moved back to Leslie Gesneria! Especially since there was a whole discussion about it below, and the decision was to move it, and then someone else moved it back here without any discussion . . . DeadpoolRP ( talk) 21:35, 25 November 2011 (UTC) reply

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 22:12, 22 October 2011 (UTC) reply



Agony (comics)Leslie Gesneria — Agony is a fan-made name for the character, and has never appeared in any official Marvel literature. A check of the page history and the talk page shows that this was discussed back in 2007 and the page moved to Leslie Gesneria, only for another poster who had not bothered to take part in the discussion to immediately revert it because they didn't know any better. 109.156.55.61 ( talk) 10:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Discussion

Any additional comments:
  • Why does it matter that it's not official? As long as the name is recognizable and precise, in theory there's no problem. Powers T 19:22, 19 October 2011 (UTC) reply
"Why does it matter that it's not official?" Because this is meant to be an encyclopedia, not fan fiction. To list the character under a name that wasn't provided by the company the owns the character means this site is deliberately and knowingly spreading misinformation. 31.53.35.201 ( talk) 16:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Multiple issues with this article

I have tagged this article with multiple issues. It is not clear that the topic meets general notability guidelines. The character might be important to Spiderman fans, but no independent, reliable (i.e. non-fan, not wiki-sites) sources are cited, and it is not clear that such sources exist. Therefore, a justification for a stand-alone Wikipedia article is lacking. I might suggest that this article be merged into another article, perhaps List of Spider-Man enemies. Alternatively, the whole article could be deleted, per WP:INDISCRIMINATE.-- Smcg8374 ( talk) 10:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC) reply

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AGONY

This page should be re-re-named back to Agony. Originally the name wasn't canon, but now it is (mentioned in-universe in Carnage U.S.A.) and also the symbiote has hosts other than Leslie Gesneria. I'd do it myself but I don't know how to make a name change. (Do you need to be registered? Because if you do that's a really really DUMB policy.) 24.191.7.238 ( talk) 00:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC) reply

Character Name "Agony"

Could fellow editors please refrain from redirecting this page to "Agony (comics)". The name Agony has never been used in reference to this character in any Marvel product or publication. Her human name is confirmed in the Spider-Man Back In Black Handbook (April 2007). "Agony" is purely a fan name used on one or two fan websites that isn't even worth a footnote entry. If a codename is going to be applied to this character then please cite an official source.

Fair use rationale for Image:Lesres.jpg

Image:Lesres.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot ( talk) 04:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Lesss.jpg

Image:Lesss.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot ( talk) 23:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC) reply

Suggestion

Now that I think about it, the pages for Venom's kids, with the exception of Carnage and Hybrid, should be folded together. Lots42 ( talk) 10:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC) reply

Her name

  • This article says: "The names (Agony, Screech, and Shriek) are fan names for Leslie. The fan name Agony was devised as being a name suited for a symbiote that seems to be a female version of Carnage, due to her appearance and coloration." How is this fact? Is Agony the name used for her character in the Separation Anxiety game? Is it the name used for her action figure? How is this "official" and not fan-cruft? --- Silent RAGE! 02:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC) reply
  • I agree. -- ksofen666
  • This article should be moved to Leslie Gesneria due to original research then. Gurko 17:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC) reply
Someone keeps moving these symbiote pages back to the fancruft names. This page needs to be moved back to Leslie Gesneria! Especially since there was a whole discussion about it below, and the decision was to move it, and then someone else moved it back here without any discussion . . . DeadpoolRP ( talk) 21:35, 25 November 2011 (UTC) reply

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 22:12, 22 October 2011 (UTC) reply



Agony (comics)Leslie Gesneria — Agony is a fan-made name for the character, and has never appeared in any official Marvel literature. A check of the page history and the talk page shows that this was discussed back in 2007 and the page moved to Leslie Gesneria, only for another poster who had not bothered to take part in the discussion to immediately revert it because they didn't know any better. 109.156.55.61 ( talk) 10:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Discussion

Any additional comments:
  • Why does it matter that it's not official? As long as the name is recognizable and precise, in theory there's no problem. Powers T 19:22, 19 October 2011 (UTC) reply
"Why does it matter that it's not official?" Because this is meant to be an encyclopedia, not fan fiction. To list the character under a name that wasn't provided by the company the owns the character means this site is deliberately and knowingly spreading misinformation. 31.53.35.201 ( talk) 16:45, 22 October 2011 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Multiple issues with this article

I have tagged this article with multiple issues. It is not clear that the topic meets general notability guidelines. The character might be important to Spiderman fans, but no independent, reliable (i.e. non-fan, not wiki-sites) sources are cited, and it is not clear that such sources exist. Therefore, a justification for a stand-alone Wikipedia article is lacking. I might suggest that this article be merged into another article, perhaps List of Spider-Man enemies. Alternatively, the whole article could be deleted, per WP:INDISCRIMINATE.-- Smcg8374 ( talk) 10:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC) reply


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