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Seems to be very well developed. If we translated we might be able to expand here. Just saying. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 19:59, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
The first two sentences of the second-to-last paragraph in #Description are:
(a) There is already information earlier in the article about the models for the painting; I don't think "The models or the three bathers were his painter colleagues" is needed.
(b) "Posed in the large" does not make sense.
(c) Nowhere else in the article (unless I missed it) does it say The Large Bathers, so
(d) I think it would be interesting and helpful if we could learn from whom or what the negative criticism came. Corinne ( talk) 04:02, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
"in the stream in the background posed in the large" is a text fragment that also appears in the Musee d'Orsay's English description of their Renoir on a similar topic, also called "The Bathers" (see [1]) where in context it makes more sense "[the three bathers sporting] in the stream in the background posed in the large [garden full of olive trees]" Perhaps appearing here due to a faulty cut and paste? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.251.41 ( talk) 18:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Johnbod I saw you had added a hidden note to the article visible only in edit mode asking what "posed in the large" meant. I didn't know if you had seen this discussion or not, so I thought I'd point you to it. See in particular my point (b) and response (b) below it. The last comment from the IP editor just above is also interesting and may be useful. Also, there was some additional discussion at Featured Pictures: [2]. I didn't know what to do, so I just left it. Corinne ( talk) 02:16, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
The first sentence of the second paragraph in Les Grandes Baigneuses (Renoir)#Painting is:
What does "a low lead relief" mean? I know what a relief is, but is this "lead" as in lead us forward or in the lead, or "lead" as in the element, the metal? Is it clear which meaning is meant? If not, perhaps this could be either linked or re-worded. Corinne ( talk) 21:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Source (4) given for identification of models says nothing on the subject. Valadon is often said to be the model for the figure in left foreground and sometimes the splashing girl on the right but I'm not sure what the evidence is. There used to be a drawing that was the exact image of the head of the splashing girl attributed to Renoir and displayed at the Bundox Restaurant (not to be confused with the current Bundox Bocce Restaurant)in Reno, NV. The owners were a couple named Loomis. During the eighties the drawing was used as a logo for the restaurant in local newspaper ads. I never found anything in print about this drawing, which has the closest resemblance to any of the GB figures that I have seen, but most of my research was done in pre-internet days. The "Head of a Young Woman" in the Minneapolis Institute of Art collection looks like it could have been modeled by the same person around the same time. 137.70.164.228 ( talk) 21:36, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
A number of details including the date of the painting appear to be completely at odds to that mentioned about the painting in his Son Claude’s memoir ‘Renoir My Father’ 88.81.132.46 ( talk) 08:46, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Seems to be very well developed. If we translated we might be able to expand here. Just saying. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 19:59, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
The first two sentences of the second-to-last paragraph in #Description are:
(a) There is already information earlier in the article about the models for the painting; I don't think "The models or the three bathers were his painter colleagues" is needed.
(b) "Posed in the large" does not make sense.
(c) Nowhere else in the article (unless I missed it) does it say The Large Bathers, so
(d) I think it would be interesting and helpful if we could learn from whom or what the negative criticism came. Corinne ( talk) 04:02, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
"in the stream in the background posed in the large" is a text fragment that also appears in the Musee d'Orsay's English description of their Renoir on a similar topic, also called "The Bathers" (see [1]) where in context it makes more sense "[the three bathers sporting] in the stream in the background posed in the large [garden full of olive trees]" Perhaps appearing here due to a faulty cut and paste? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.251.41 ( talk) 18:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Johnbod I saw you had added a hidden note to the article visible only in edit mode asking what "posed in the large" meant. I didn't know if you had seen this discussion or not, so I thought I'd point you to it. See in particular my point (b) and response (b) below it. The last comment from the IP editor just above is also interesting and may be useful. Also, there was some additional discussion at Featured Pictures: [2]. I didn't know what to do, so I just left it. Corinne ( talk) 02:16, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
The first sentence of the second paragraph in Les Grandes Baigneuses (Renoir)#Painting is:
What does "a low lead relief" mean? I know what a relief is, but is this "lead" as in lead us forward or in the lead, or "lead" as in the element, the metal? Is it clear which meaning is meant? If not, perhaps this could be either linked or re-worded. Corinne ( talk) 21:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Source (4) given for identification of models says nothing on the subject. Valadon is often said to be the model for the figure in left foreground and sometimes the splashing girl on the right but I'm not sure what the evidence is. There used to be a drawing that was the exact image of the head of the splashing girl attributed to Renoir and displayed at the Bundox Restaurant (not to be confused with the current Bundox Bocce Restaurant)in Reno, NV. The owners were a couple named Loomis. During the eighties the drawing was used as a logo for the restaurant in local newspaper ads. I never found anything in print about this drawing, which has the closest resemblance to any of the GB figures that I have seen, but most of my research was done in pre-internet days. The "Head of a Young Woman" in the Minneapolis Institute of Art collection looks like it could have been modeled by the same person around the same time. 137.70.164.228 ( talk) 21:36, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
A number of details including the date of the painting appear to be completely at odds to that mentioned about the painting in his Son Claude’s memoir ‘Renoir My Father’ 88.81.132.46 ( talk) 08:46, 17 May 2024 (UTC)