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Please note that this page is not the same as the article created by User:Lesb246 about the Les Balsiger presently working as an administrator at Eastern Oregon University in La Grande, Oregon. That article was subsequently deleted; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger
This article is about a different Les Balsiger presently living in Troy, Montana. [1] -- A. B. (talk) 04:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I took out the "harshly" in the opening sentence. I agree 100% that the criticism was harsh, however us saying so gives the impression of POVism. Also it seems to me that when "the pope" is used, refering to the current pope, it is in lower case. The same with "the queen", refering to Queen Elizabeth, or "the president", refering to the current US president. I personally think it should be capitalized, which is why I noticed it. I had been capitalizing them and changed to conform to what newspapers, etc. were doing. Steve Dufour 18:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC) p.s. I checked out the Pope article and saw that they capitalized it there too. I think they are wrong but I'm not going to bother.
As a result of direct communication with Mr. Balsiger (administrator) I have disambiguated the pages and redirected Les Balsiger to Les Balsiger (activist). I hope this clarifies any confusion.-- Brad Patrick 13:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm thrilled at the response to this. My overarching concern is that Administrator Balsiger is, in fact, being confused for the person who is the activist. It is precisely the Dean Carter (plumber) problem. (Or rather, Dean Carter (HVAC) - to the TRANE rep in Seattle, I'm sorry Mr. Carter [5]). There are probably many more that's the first fellow I found on Google. In the case of attorney disciplinary cases in Washington State, where I am a member of the bar, the notices have qualifiers that say things like "Mr. John Q. Smith of Wenatchee is not to be confused with Mr. John Q. Smith of Omak." It is a form of disambiguation which is directly relevant to those individuals. Administrator Balsiger has been very clear that the unfortunate circumstances of his name and geographic proximity to Activist Balsiger, in conjunction with Wikipedia have made it difficult for him to differentiate himself. I understand the fear of a cascade of Joe Blow disambiguations. In this case, I think everyone agrees the (activist) nomenclature is correct. There seems to be an open question about how to properly differentiate a Joe Blow (controversial) from Joe Blow (anybody) from Joe Blow (star), Joe Blow (author), or Joe Blow (notable noun). Is the red link overkill? Not to this Administrator Balsiger, who acknowledges he is not, and does not intend to be, notable. He just doesn't want to be labeled incorrectly: guy who said the Pope is the anti-Christ vs. administrator at a Catholic institution. That does seem reasonable under the circumstances.-- Brad Patrick 16:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I just undid the above action. Sorry, I shoulda read this Talk Page first. Nonetheless, I disagree with BradPatrick's actions and would like to see a consensus for this solution. I'm sorry if non-notable Mr. Balsiger (administrator) is confused with notable Mr. Balsiger (anti-Catholic activist). That's the way the cookie crumbles. We cannot have disambigs for every non-notable perso with the same name as a notable person. -- Richard 17:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Per my comment at Talk:Les Balsiger (disambiguation), since Brad's version was properly restored, to prevent further changes during the discussion I have protected the page and the redirect, on the basis of BLP policy. DGG ( talk ) 19:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Can we link to Les Balsiger (disambiguation) in the hatnote? Otherwise it makes no sense to have a hatnote, I think. Not sure if this was an oversight or by design. Thanks. Katr67 ( talk) 19:41, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
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Please note that this page is not the same as the article created by User:Lesb246 about the Les Balsiger presently working as an administrator at Eastern Oregon University in La Grande, Oregon. That article was subsequently deleted; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Balsiger
This article is about a different Les Balsiger presently living in Troy, Montana. [1] -- A. B. (talk) 04:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I took out the "harshly" in the opening sentence. I agree 100% that the criticism was harsh, however us saying so gives the impression of POVism. Also it seems to me that when "the pope" is used, refering to the current pope, it is in lower case. The same with "the queen", refering to Queen Elizabeth, or "the president", refering to the current US president. I personally think it should be capitalized, which is why I noticed it. I had been capitalizing them and changed to conform to what newspapers, etc. were doing. Steve Dufour 18:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC) p.s. I checked out the Pope article and saw that they capitalized it there too. I think they are wrong but I'm not going to bother.
As a result of direct communication with Mr. Balsiger (administrator) I have disambiguated the pages and redirected Les Balsiger to Les Balsiger (activist). I hope this clarifies any confusion.-- Brad Patrick 13:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm thrilled at the response to this. My overarching concern is that Administrator Balsiger is, in fact, being confused for the person who is the activist. It is precisely the Dean Carter (plumber) problem. (Or rather, Dean Carter (HVAC) - to the TRANE rep in Seattle, I'm sorry Mr. Carter [5]). There are probably many more that's the first fellow I found on Google. In the case of attorney disciplinary cases in Washington State, where I am a member of the bar, the notices have qualifiers that say things like "Mr. John Q. Smith of Wenatchee is not to be confused with Mr. John Q. Smith of Omak." It is a form of disambiguation which is directly relevant to those individuals. Administrator Balsiger has been very clear that the unfortunate circumstances of his name and geographic proximity to Activist Balsiger, in conjunction with Wikipedia have made it difficult for him to differentiate himself. I understand the fear of a cascade of Joe Blow disambiguations. In this case, I think everyone agrees the (activist) nomenclature is correct. There seems to be an open question about how to properly differentiate a Joe Blow (controversial) from Joe Blow (anybody) from Joe Blow (star), Joe Blow (author), or Joe Blow (notable noun). Is the red link overkill? Not to this Administrator Balsiger, who acknowledges he is not, and does not intend to be, notable. He just doesn't want to be labeled incorrectly: guy who said the Pope is the anti-Christ vs. administrator at a Catholic institution. That does seem reasonable under the circumstances.-- Brad Patrick 16:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I just undid the above action. Sorry, I shoulda read this Talk Page first. Nonetheless, I disagree with BradPatrick's actions and would like to see a consensus for this solution. I'm sorry if non-notable Mr. Balsiger (administrator) is confused with notable Mr. Balsiger (anti-Catholic activist). That's the way the cookie crumbles. We cannot have disambigs for every non-notable perso with the same name as a notable person. -- Richard 17:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Per my comment at Talk:Les Balsiger (disambiguation), since Brad's version was properly restored, to prevent further changes during the discussion I have protected the page and the redirect, on the basis of BLP policy. DGG ( talk ) 19:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Can we link to Les Balsiger (disambiguation) in the hatnote? Otherwise it makes no sense to have a hatnote, I think. Not sure if this was an oversight or by design. Thanks. Katr67 ( talk) 19:41, 10 December 2009 (UTC)