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I am presently having difficulty uploading an image that is found here. Image is in the public domain and should be added to this article to enhance it. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 22:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
User:Uncle Leroy july 4 insists on removing "was a Filipino[1][2][3]" from the lead of this article. Examining the various sources suggests that the first two may be mistakes, even though sourced to the US Department of Defense. The other sources show that he was born in Honolulu, so I have removed this statement. Jezhotwells ( talk) 21:50, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Due to continuing deletion, and violation of WP:3RR, I have referred this article to WP:BLPN. Please see this articles entry. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 00:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
If we can reach a consensus that the individuals ethnicity contributes to the significants/notability of the subject of this article, and that both ethnicities are referenced, and therefore both should be included in the article, such as it was prior to the removal of the Filipino wikilink/text and its references then we can restore it. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 13:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Here is a link of the archived discussion regarding the subject of this article. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 14:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
In a recent deletion, it is claimed that the references provided have retracted the statement that the subject of this article is not-filipino, and is in fact "100% Portuguese". Can someone provide support that a retraction did in fact occur from all sources? -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 14:37, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello all, I was the one who recently remove the reference of Filipino decent and I understand it was changed back. The message that was left to me asked me why I did this and questioned conflict of interest. I would like to post the information I have that comes directly from the family and also explain how I got involved for those who questioned it.
I got my information from Mr. Mendonca's family, they were referred to me by the editor Malia Zimmerman of Hawaii Reporter who was a source of an article that was recently retracted. Duane Vachon who originally wrote the article and then retracted the reference to Filipino origin, was provided the same information that was forwarded to me. Mr. Vachon is a respected historian and Veteran and writes regularly on the subject. I thought I provided enough references that reflected the retractions and I noticed some of those sources were removed. I find it strange that someone would remove the references that once said he was Filipino and then retracted it. That source was important to back up my purpose for removing what I did.
Just to be clear, I have never met the family, am not related in anyway and have no personal interest in this other than to share the information and correct the issue based on what they sent me. The family wrote a very strong letter and are very upset about this issue and provided me with information on the retractions they got, which was the basis for my correction. They contacted every previously cited source and have successfully managed to get them to retract the statement. I believe the retractions and removal of the information in the previous sources warrants deletion of the Filipino Reference. I think the families comments and efforts should be carefully reviewed, it is clearly a big issue for them. It seems to me the family would know the truth and have worked very hard to prove the issue. I am not sure how or why it is suspected I am engaging in sockpuppetry, my account isn't new, I am a new editor but I have edited before and used my real name anyone can google me and see who I am. And there is no conflict of interest here, I am just trying to keep wikipedia accurate, especially since it provided a source for several inaccurate follow up articles.
Here is an excerpt of the long message I got from the family. I believe it explains very well what has been going on and what they have done to fix the source information:
"Why he wishes to insist Leroy is Filipino? I even had Vice Admiral's Brewer's article changed and they omitted Leroy. Then Wikipedia puts all the incorrect references back and keeps Leroy as Filipino. I don't know why this one gentleman is so against the truth??
Wikipedia is still using the same old references from Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute authored by Rudi Williams, Vice Admiral Brewer letter and Washington State Filipino Community letter. All of these reverences have retracted their statements. The Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute has been very helpful. I believe the miss-information started their with a Rudi Williams. They are currently fixing the issue, see below for contact information.
Ref 1. I don't know how his grave site shows he is Filipino. It does show the MEDAL OF HONOR. I see the grave site is not supposed to be considered an accurate source of information as they most lkly got this information from Wikipedia.
Ref 2 &9 Cemeteries Duane Vachon wrote an article for the Hawaii Reporter " All Gave Some Some Gave All." Mr Vachon has retracted his statement that Leroy was Filipino and the Hawaii Reporter has issued a correction.
Ref 5 Washington State letter should of been retracted soon. I have e-mailed them again.
Ref 3,4,6 & 7 Defense Equal Opportunity Management Insitute is going to retract all references from Rudi Williams stating Leroy was Filipino. You can call Jollean Horton at 321-494-1584 or the Chaplain at 321-494-4254.
REf. 12 Sealift command letter from Vice Admiral Brewer removed Leroy Mendonca name from the letter 4th paragraph from the bottom.
Leroy's sister Lucille Mendonca still lives in Hawaii she can provide information if needed. Always use Gibbons when speaking about Adele. Gibbons was Adele's mother married named. Also Retired Col. Thomas Mendonca U.S. Army still lives in Hawaii. The family calls him Skippy.
My wife's mother, Leroy's sister, Gen Gibbons was the sponsor of Leroy's ship, UNSN Mendonca. If you need pictures we can send them to you from the Christening of the ship and the family at the ship's maiden voyage.
I have contacted my Congresswoman and she has the Army looking into the false information. I have received two letters from her. Also I have written the new Joint Chief of Staff, previously the Army Chief of Staff, and the Under Secretary of the Army to correct any false information about Leroy."
That is the end of the info send to me. thanks! Dani808 ( talk) 23:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Due to a recent edit I am refering this article to COIN. Interested editors can follow link provided. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 12:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
I know that Find a Grave, is often not seen as a reliable source, however found the subject's entry. Should this be included somewhere in this article? -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 16:22, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
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I am presently having difficulty uploading an image that is found here. Image is in the public domain and should be added to this article to enhance it. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 22:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
User:Uncle Leroy july 4 insists on removing "was a Filipino[1][2][3]" from the lead of this article. Examining the various sources suggests that the first two may be mistakes, even though sourced to the US Department of Defense. The other sources show that he was born in Honolulu, so I have removed this statement. Jezhotwells ( talk) 21:50, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Due to continuing deletion, and violation of WP:3RR, I have referred this article to WP:BLPN. Please see this articles entry. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 00:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
If we can reach a consensus that the individuals ethnicity contributes to the significants/notability of the subject of this article, and that both ethnicities are referenced, and therefore both should be included in the article, such as it was prior to the removal of the Filipino wikilink/text and its references then we can restore it. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 13:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Here is a link of the archived discussion regarding the subject of this article. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 14:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
In a recent deletion, it is claimed that the references provided have retracted the statement that the subject of this article is not-filipino, and is in fact "100% Portuguese". Can someone provide support that a retraction did in fact occur from all sources? -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 14:37, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Hello all, I was the one who recently remove the reference of Filipino decent and I understand it was changed back. The message that was left to me asked me why I did this and questioned conflict of interest. I would like to post the information I have that comes directly from the family and also explain how I got involved for those who questioned it.
I got my information from Mr. Mendonca's family, they were referred to me by the editor Malia Zimmerman of Hawaii Reporter who was a source of an article that was recently retracted. Duane Vachon who originally wrote the article and then retracted the reference to Filipino origin, was provided the same information that was forwarded to me. Mr. Vachon is a respected historian and Veteran and writes regularly on the subject. I thought I provided enough references that reflected the retractions and I noticed some of those sources were removed. I find it strange that someone would remove the references that once said he was Filipino and then retracted it. That source was important to back up my purpose for removing what I did.
Just to be clear, I have never met the family, am not related in anyway and have no personal interest in this other than to share the information and correct the issue based on what they sent me. The family wrote a very strong letter and are very upset about this issue and provided me with information on the retractions they got, which was the basis for my correction. They contacted every previously cited source and have successfully managed to get them to retract the statement. I believe the retractions and removal of the information in the previous sources warrants deletion of the Filipino Reference. I think the families comments and efforts should be carefully reviewed, it is clearly a big issue for them. It seems to me the family would know the truth and have worked very hard to prove the issue. I am not sure how or why it is suspected I am engaging in sockpuppetry, my account isn't new, I am a new editor but I have edited before and used my real name anyone can google me and see who I am. And there is no conflict of interest here, I am just trying to keep wikipedia accurate, especially since it provided a source for several inaccurate follow up articles.
Here is an excerpt of the long message I got from the family. I believe it explains very well what has been going on and what they have done to fix the source information:
"Why he wishes to insist Leroy is Filipino? I even had Vice Admiral's Brewer's article changed and they omitted Leroy. Then Wikipedia puts all the incorrect references back and keeps Leroy as Filipino. I don't know why this one gentleman is so against the truth??
Wikipedia is still using the same old references from Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute authored by Rudi Williams, Vice Admiral Brewer letter and Washington State Filipino Community letter. All of these reverences have retracted their statements. The Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute has been very helpful. I believe the miss-information started their with a Rudi Williams. They are currently fixing the issue, see below for contact information.
Ref 1. I don't know how his grave site shows he is Filipino. It does show the MEDAL OF HONOR. I see the grave site is not supposed to be considered an accurate source of information as they most lkly got this information from Wikipedia.
Ref 2 &9 Cemeteries Duane Vachon wrote an article for the Hawaii Reporter " All Gave Some Some Gave All." Mr Vachon has retracted his statement that Leroy was Filipino and the Hawaii Reporter has issued a correction.
Ref 5 Washington State letter should of been retracted soon. I have e-mailed them again.
Ref 3,4,6 & 7 Defense Equal Opportunity Management Insitute is going to retract all references from Rudi Williams stating Leroy was Filipino. You can call Jollean Horton at 321-494-1584 or the Chaplain at 321-494-4254.
REf. 12 Sealift command letter from Vice Admiral Brewer removed Leroy Mendonca name from the letter 4th paragraph from the bottom.
Leroy's sister Lucille Mendonca still lives in Hawaii she can provide information if needed. Always use Gibbons when speaking about Adele. Gibbons was Adele's mother married named. Also Retired Col. Thomas Mendonca U.S. Army still lives in Hawaii. The family calls him Skippy.
My wife's mother, Leroy's sister, Gen Gibbons was the sponsor of Leroy's ship, UNSN Mendonca. If you need pictures we can send them to you from the Christening of the ship and the family at the ship's maiden voyage.
I have contacted my Congresswoman and she has the Army looking into the false information. I have received two letters from her. Also I have written the new Joint Chief of Staff, previously the Army Chief of Staff, and the Under Secretary of the Army to correct any false information about Leroy."
That is the end of the info send to me. thanks! Dani808 ( talk) 23:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Due to a recent edit I am refering this article to COIN. Interested editors can follow link provided. -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 12:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
I know that Find a Grave, is often not seen as a reliable source, however found the subject's entry. Should this be included somewhere in this article? -- RightCowLeftCoast ( talk) 16:22, 14 May 2011 (UTC)