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In my opinion, the quoting was excessive. I would suggest editing the material and creating a wikiquote. Viator slovenicus ( talk) 23:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Rupnik in a lecture entitled 'Bolshevism: a tool of international Judaism' and subtitled 'Jewish endeavours towards global supremacy' in Ljubljana, 1944:
"[The Jews'] straight dogmatic hatred of all who are not Jewish is finally challenged everywhere by a revolt by the home nation that sooner or later removes all parasites from their country or limits by law their economic, religious and political activity”.
A transcript of the whole lecture is available online [1].
Leon Rupnik at Polhov Gradec, 5 June 1944:
"With solid trust in the righteousness of the leader of Europe, of the German nation, we must calmly and with all fanaticism lead the battle against Jewish global supremacy serving Stalin’s and Tito’s bandits and their assistants, Anglo-American gangsters". [2]
Rupnik in his speech at the ceremony where the Domobranci swore oaths of allegiance to Hitler, 30 January 1945:
"If the German soldier and you, my bold Domobranci, allowed these Jewish mercenaries to flourish, they would yet kill all decent thinkers, believers in the nation and homeland of true Slovenian birth together with their children - or we will make cannon fodder or slaves of them, steal their property, homes, villages, devastate the national body and suppress the Jew".
"These are the nations of Europe, our broader homeland, in whose centre the largest, German nation has taken upon itself the struggle against the Jewish corruption of the world".
[3]
[4]
Ljenko Urbančič, a central Domobranci figure was notorious for his
anti-Semitic and pro-Nazi propaganda in newspapers and on radio. His themes were invariably the same: communist Jews controlled Britain and the US, who were using ‘negroes’ in their war against Hitler's New Europe. In typical style, broadcasting on Radio Ljubljana in June 1944 Urbančič said:
“All those Anglophiles – that word is actually wrong, as they are not Anglophiles, but fruitcakes – must bear in mind that our anti-Communist battle would be all in vain if we were to make such a fatal mistake and take today’s Anglo-American invasion troops for anything other than what they are, a Jewish-communist tool” .
"... it is not important that I speak to you as the youngest Slovene journalist . . . (what is important is that) the truth which is older than I, which is centuries old (be proclaimed). That is, the truth about all the vile intentions of the chosen people, the 15 million Israeli race roaming the world". He went on "We went to war for Jewish interests, for the benefit of international communism", and the responsibility rested "with those 'allies', the British, Soviets and Masons, and above all, and I stress the words above all, the Jews - sworn enemies of Christianity and all the non-Jewish world".
Later in the broadcast he concluded with a tirade against the Chinese, Indian and African troops fighting against the Reich on European soil, and then with a rallying cry to his listeners to:
“. . . follow our leader, the experienced and homeland-loving General Rupnik, about whom we can say that God himself has sent him to us . . . It is our duty to repeat over and over again, to exhaustion, that there is only one way, the way of General Rupnik”.
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[6]
[7]
References
Smith2006, you will have noticed that I have removed your tag. For the purposes of us having a reasonable discussion, would you be kind enough to explain what exactly it is about this article that you think, from your obviously highly-informed and neutral standpoint, is not NPOV? Apologies if it is not immediately clear to me, but what should be changed, and why? Many thanks in advance for taking the time to set out your points. Regards, AlasdairGreen27 ( talk) 15:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
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A recent contribution wrote that the Home Guard swore "oaths of allegiance ... to the SS and the Leader of Greater Germany". This has already been discussed extensively here, where the oath text is available ("... that I will stand in common struggle with the German armed forces, which stand under the command of the leader of Greater Germany"). It is clearly an oath to fight in allegiance with the German forces, stating that the German forces are commanded by Hitler. It should not be paraphrased into an "oath of allegiance ... to Hitler". Doremo ( talk) 08:03, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I think putting the whole oath of allegiance is OK, and it deserves its own section, since this has been the a big thing mentioned by all sources on Rupnik, while no major historians write of his cultural policies. In fact his aid, Kociper, states that the oath was Rupnik's idea and he composed it, so he was by no means just a bystander as the current text suggests. Thus I propose this:
Home Guard Oaths of Allegiance Rupnik led the Home Guards in two oaths of allegiance, the first on Hitler’s birthday on April 20, 1944, and the second on the 12th anniversary of the Nazis coming to power, on January 30, 1945. In the oaths the Home Guards proclaimed:
I swear to Almighty God that I will be faithful, courageous and submissive to my superiors, that in the joint struggle with the German armed forces under the command of the Leader of Greater Germany, SS troops and police, against bandits and communism as well as his Allies, I will conscientiously fulfill my duties. their Slovenian homeland as part of a free Europe. I am also willing to sacrifice my life for this fight. So God help me. Thhhommmasss ( talk) 17:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
It would be interesting to know if General Rupnik was perhaps the father of Lidija Rupnik, Olympic gymnast from the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics, as well as 7th-place finisher at the 1938 World Championships. Lidija was born in Trieste about the time that General Rupnik might have been stationed there, as well as where he had studied when he was a youth. QuakerIlK ( talk) 09:13, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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In my opinion, the quoting was excessive. I would suggest editing the material and creating a wikiquote. Viator slovenicus ( talk) 23:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Rupnik in a lecture entitled 'Bolshevism: a tool of international Judaism' and subtitled 'Jewish endeavours towards global supremacy' in Ljubljana, 1944:
"[The Jews'] straight dogmatic hatred of all who are not Jewish is finally challenged everywhere by a revolt by the home nation that sooner or later removes all parasites from their country or limits by law their economic, religious and political activity”.
A transcript of the whole lecture is available online [1].
Leon Rupnik at Polhov Gradec, 5 June 1944:
"With solid trust in the righteousness of the leader of Europe, of the German nation, we must calmly and with all fanaticism lead the battle against Jewish global supremacy serving Stalin’s and Tito’s bandits and their assistants, Anglo-American gangsters". [2]
Rupnik in his speech at the ceremony where the Domobranci swore oaths of allegiance to Hitler, 30 January 1945:
"If the German soldier and you, my bold Domobranci, allowed these Jewish mercenaries to flourish, they would yet kill all decent thinkers, believers in the nation and homeland of true Slovenian birth together with their children - or we will make cannon fodder or slaves of them, steal their property, homes, villages, devastate the national body and suppress the Jew".
"These are the nations of Europe, our broader homeland, in whose centre the largest, German nation has taken upon itself the struggle against the Jewish corruption of the world".
[3]
[4]
Ljenko Urbančič, a central Domobranci figure was notorious for his
anti-Semitic and pro-Nazi propaganda in newspapers and on radio. His themes were invariably the same: communist Jews controlled Britain and the US, who were using ‘negroes’ in their war against Hitler's New Europe. In typical style, broadcasting on Radio Ljubljana in June 1944 Urbančič said:
“All those Anglophiles – that word is actually wrong, as they are not Anglophiles, but fruitcakes – must bear in mind that our anti-Communist battle would be all in vain if we were to make such a fatal mistake and take today’s Anglo-American invasion troops for anything other than what they are, a Jewish-communist tool” .
"... it is not important that I speak to you as the youngest Slovene journalist . . . (what is important is that) the truth which is older than I, which is centuries old (be proclaimed). That is, the truth about all the vile intentions of the chosen people, the 15 million Israeli race roaming the world". He went on "We went to war for Jewish interests, for the benefit of international communism", and the responsibility rested "with those 'allies', the British, Soviets and Masons, and above all, and I stress the words above all, the Jews - sworn enemies of Christianity and all the non-Jewish world".
Later in the broadcast he concluded with a tirade against the Chinese, Indian and African troops fighting against the Reich on European soil, and then with a rallying cry to his listeners to:
“. . . follow our leader, the experienced and homeland-loving General Rupnik, about whom we can say that God himself has sent him to us . . . It is our duty to repeat over and over again, to exhaustion, that there is only one way, the way of General Rupnik”.
[5]
[6]
[7]
References
Smith2006, you will have noticed that I have removed your tag. For the purposes of us having a reasonable discussion, would you be kind enough to explain what exactly it is about this article that you think, from your obviously highly-informed and neutral standpoint, is not NPOV? Apologies if it is not immediately clear to me, but what should be changed, and why? Many thanks in advance for taking the time to set out your points. Regards, AlasdairGreen27 ( talk) 15:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
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A recent contribution wrote that the Home Guard swore "oaths of allegiance ... to the SS and the Leader of Greater Germany". This has already been discussed extensively here, where the oath text is available ("... that I will stand in common struggle with the German armed forces, which stand under the command of the leader of Greater Germany"). It is clearly an oath to fight in allegiance with the German forces, stating that the German forces are commanded by Hitler. It should not be paraphrased into an "oath of allegiance ... to Hitler". Doremo ( talk) 08:03, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I think putting the whole oath of allegiance is OK, and it deserves its own section, since this has been the a big thing mentioned by all sources on Rupnik, while no major historians write of his cultural policies. In fact his aid, Kociper, states that the oath was Rupnik's idea and he composed it, so he was by no means just a bystander as the current text suggests. Thus I propose this:
Home Guard Oaths of Allegiance Rupnik led the Home Guards in two oaths of allegiance, the first on Hitler’s birthday on April 20, 1944, and the second on the 12th anniversary of the Nazis coming to power, on January 30, 1945. In the oaths the Home Guards proclaimed:
I swear to Almighty God that I will be faithful, courageous and submissive to my superiors, that in the joint struggle with the German armed forces under the command of the Leader of Greater Germany, SS troops and police, against bandits and communism as well as his Allies, I will conscientiously fulfill my duties. their Slovenian homeland as part of a free Europe. I am also willing to sacrifice my life for this fight. So God help me. Thhhommmasss ( talk) 17:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
It would be interesting to know if General Rupnik was perhaps the father of Lidija Rupnik, Olympic gymnast from the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics, as well as 7th-place finisher at the 1938 World Championships. Lidija was born in Trieste about the time that General Rupnik might have been stationed there, as well as where he had studied when he was a youth. QuakerIlK ( talk) 09:13, 25 December 2020 (UTC)