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I have reverted the term "crooner" back to "singer" 3 times now. I explained my reasons with the first revert. No justification for using the term "crooner" has been put forward. It is a tongue in cheek offensive term which is not the description he applies to himself; indeed his profession in the info box is listed as singer. This is becoming an edit war. Do other users have an opinion on use of the term "singer" or "crooner" in the introduction to this article? -- Brideshead ( talk) 15:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I have also now reverted this particular edit three times. He doesn't appear to be a crooner in the sense of the word as I understand it. In any case, I've started a discusion on the topic below. We need to sort this matter out once and for all. Brett Leaford ( talk) 14:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I think we need to decide once and for all whether Leon Jackson is a singer or a crooner. One particular user seems to want him to be a crooner, while several other editors (myself included) disagree. So let's have some consensus on this matter. Brett Leaford ( talk) 14:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Both is good. It will (probably) satisfy both camps. I'm happy to go along with that in any case. Brett Leaford ( talk) 14:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm also happy to go along with the compromise as it now stands. I believe that the term crooner is an achronistic term easily open to misinterpritation and not suited for the introduction. -- Brideshead ( talk) 19:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
It's probably worth mentioning that User;TomGreen keeps adding his personal opinions to this article. What is the correct warning template for edits of this nature? Brett Leaford ( talk) 19:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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I have had my attention brought to Leon Jackson discography which seems like an unnecessary fork from this article, given that this singer only has one album and two charted singles thus far. There's nothing there that isn't stated in this article with proper citations, so the page should be merged and redirected here. Thoughts? Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 21:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
'When You believe' is a single and also a track on the album, but it went to #1 as a single. iTunes use: 'When You Believe - Single' for the single album name.. May be this is the album name that should be used-- Notsooldafterall ( talk) 20:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I haven't found any mention of Leon Jackson as a nominee for the Brits 2007 or 2008, or for the BAFTA Scotland Awards. The cite given for the BAFTA Scotland Awards ( http://www.theivors.org/2007winners.htm) makes no mention of the 'Great Role Model For Scottish Youths' award or of Leon Jackson. As for the Brits, here's a link to the BBC articles, for 2007 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6268759.stm), and (2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7187992.stm), again with no mention of Leon Jackson.
I have removed the whole section because it doesn't seem of any use, but please feel free to undo this change if you have further information and can provide a valid reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notsooldafterall ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Just a note re my recent edits. I removed unsourced charting claims, something about "Stargazing Day", which is a forum/fan movement, and an award that had a blog as a reference. I removed these things because forums and blogs are not reliable sources. Anyone on a forum or blog can say things, that doesn't make these things notable or factual. If there is newsworthy stuff about Leon Jackson, it will be covered by reliable sources. News sources, music websites such as Allmusic, & billboard, and websites that track charting positions are considered reliable sources. Please try to find those kinds of things to use as references, rather than blogs and forums. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 22:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure why this keeps getting a "failed verification tag. The reference number (#4) leads you to this website: http://www.chartstats.com/songinfo.php?id=34129 There is a line that says "Highest position in chart: 94". And below that is "Chart History", and it gives the week in November, as well as peak position of 94. Please tell me if I'm missing something here... Is it because the text states it's the UK download chart? If so, just remove the UK download chart portion, but I thought that a pretty reasonable assumption since it's a download-only single. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 04:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Record charts, "Charts pertaining to only one specific retailer (such as iTunes, Amazon.com or Wal-Mart) should not be used." Therefore, I am removing charts for HMV and iTunes, as they are not acceptable charts per this guideline. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 20:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I Dont see why the image i placed is being removed by this FLAG ONCE WAS RED. Please stop it shows Jackson better, more clear and shows what he does. -- 92.25.208.50 ( talk) 21:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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Brief 15 minutes of fame now over. Time to remove article completely, and let him return to his job in that "retail store" in that nameless Scottish town? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.246.71.166 ( talk) 11:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC) (Note: I moved this comment to the bottom of the page; please place new conversations at the bottom of Talk pages, thank you. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 16:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC))
The previous citation was from Leon Jackson forum. But the forum have got their information from Wiki. This information may be completely made up, and until someone forwards a valid source, we can't give it any encyclopedic value. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notsooldafterall ( talk • contribs) 17:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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A disagreement has emerged over the duration of Leon Jackson's "active" musical career. Did it end in 2012, after he stopped recording and effectively faded from public attention, or has it continued until the present time? It seems presumptuous to say that just because no retirement has been announced he is still active. In what way? Is he touring? Is he recording? Has he picked up a new contract? Is he making significant performances. Certainly he has not updated the news section of his website ( http://www.leonjacksonmusic.com/index.php/news/) since 1 January 2013. The views of other editors will be greatly appreciated. Regards, George Custer's Sabre ( talk) 14:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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I have reverted the term "crooner" back to "singer" 3 times now. I explained my reasons with the first revert. No justification for using the term "crooner" has been put forward. It is a tongue in cheek offensive term which is not the description he applies to himself; indeed his profession in the info box is listed as singer. This is becoming an edit war. Do other users have an opinion on use of the term "singer" or "crooner" in the introduction to this article? -- Brideshead ( talk) 15:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I have also now reverted this particular edit three times. He doesn't appear to be a crooner in the sense of the word as I understand it. In any case, I've started a discusion on the topic below. We need to sort this matter out once and for all. Brett Leaford ( talk) 14:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I think we need to decide once and for all whether Leon Jackson is a singer or a crooner. One particular user seems to want him to be a crooner, while several other editors (myself included) disagree. So let's have some consensus on this matter. Brett Leaford ( talk) 14:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Both is good. It will (probably) satisfy both camps. I'm happy to go along with that in any case. Brett Leaford ( talk) 14:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm also happy to go along with the compromise as it now stands. I believe that the term crooner is an achronistic term easily open to misinterpritation and not suited for the introduction. -- Brideshead ( talk) 19:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
It's probably worth mentioning that User;TomGreen keeps adding his personal opinions to this article. What is the correct warning template for edits of this nature? Brett Leaford ( talk) 19:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
This article (and related articles) has recently been the subject of edits by User:Oprahwinfrey24, adding links to other languages' articles on Leon Jackson. I have reverted those edits which were to non-existent articles, however be aware that User:Oprahwinfrey24 is likely to be a sock puppet of an indefinitely blocked editor, and is very persistent in adding nonsense to articles. I tend to revert on sight, and otherwise ignore the troll, but there is a currently open request for checkuser if you spot any new instances of this user, and you can add suspected socks to this page to assist other editors in following the sock master.
Cheers, This flag once was red propaganda deeds 18:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I have had my attention brought to Leon Jackson discography which seems like an unnecessary fork from this article, given that this singer only has one album and two charted singles thus far. There's nothing there that isn't stated in this article with proper citations, so the page should be merged and redirected here. Thoughts? Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 21:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
'When You believe' is a single and also a track on the album, but it went to #1 as a single. iTunes use: 'When You Believe - Single' for the single album name.. May be this is the album name that should be used-- Notsooldafterall ( talk) 20:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I haven't found any mention of Leon Jackson as a nominee for the Brits 2007 or 2008, or for the BAFTA Scotland Awards. The cite given for the BAFTA Scotland Awards ( http://www.theivors.org/2007winners.htm) makes no mention of the 'Great Role Model For Scottish Youths' award or of Leon Jackson. As for the Brits, here's a link to the BBC articles, for 2007 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6268759.stm), and (2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7187992.stm), again with no mention of Leon Jackson.
I have removed the whole section because it doesn't seem of any use, but please feel free to undo this change if you have further information and can provide a valid reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notsooldafterall ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Just a note re my recent edits. I removed unsourced charting claims, something about "Stargazing Day", which is a forum/fan movement, and an award that had a blog as a reference. I removed these things because forums and blogs are not reliable sources. Anyone on a forum or blog can say things, that doesn't make these things notable or factual. If there is newsworthy stuff about Leon Jackson, it will be covered by reliable sources. News sources, music websites such as Allmusic, & billboard, and websites that track charting positions are considered reliable sources. Please try to find those kinds of things to use as references, rather than blogs and forums. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 22:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure why this keeps getting a "failed verification tag. The reference number (#4) leads you to this website: http://www.chartstats.com/songinfo.php?id=34129 There is a line that says "Highest position in chart: 94". And below that is "Chart History", and it gives the week in November, as well as peak position of 94. Please tell me if I'm missing something here... Is it because the text states it's the UK download chart? If so, just remove the UK download chart portion, but I thought that a pretty reasonable assumption since it's a download-only single. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 04:47, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia:Record charts, "Charts pertaining to only one specific retailer (such as iTunes, Amazon.com or Wal-Mart) should not be used." Therefore, I am removing charts for HMV and iTunes, as they are not acceptable charts per this guideline. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 20:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
I Dont see why the image i placed is being removed by this FLAG ONCE WAS RED. Please stop it shows Jackson better, more clear and shows what he does. -- 92.25.208.50 ( talk) 21:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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Brief 15 minutes of fame now over. Time to remove article completely, and let him return to his job in that "retail store" in that nameless Scottish town? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.246.71.166 ( talk) 11:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC) (Note: I moved this comment to the bottom of the page; please place new conversations at the bottom of Talk pages, thank you. Raven1977 Talk to me My edits 16:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC))
The previous citation was from Leon Jackson forum. But the forum have got their information from Wiki. This information may be completely made up, and until someone forwards a valid source, we can't give it any encyclopedic value. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Notsooldafterall ( talk • contribs) 17:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
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A disagreement has emerged over the duration of Leon Jackson's "active" musical career. Did it end in 2012, after he stopped recording and effectively faded from public attention, or has it continued until the present time? It seems presumptuous to say that just because no retirement has been announced he is still active. In what way? Is he touring? Is he recording? Has he picked up a new contract? Is he making significant performances. Certainly he has not updated the news section of his website ( http://www.leonjacksonmusic.com/index.php/news/) since 1 January 2013. The views of other editors will be greatly appreciated. Regards, George Custer's Sabre ( talk) 14:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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