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EVERYONE knows that Diamond was killed by Irving "Bitsy" Bitz and Sal Spitale when he wouldn't returtn their investment on a deal gone wrong.. who writes these things? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.252.167 ( talk • contribs) 05:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, we won't know because there are no meaningful citations in the article, in fact, are there any citations?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.96.45 ( talk) 00:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
he was a half brother to the actor george brent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.78.155.230 ( talk) 23:09, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
What is your source? Both men's fathers are named John, but have different last names and are apparently different men. One man's mother is named Mary and the other man's mother is named Sara. How could they be half brothers? 2600:1700:7F11:6420:9D37:86A5:C3C7:4CAB ( talk) 19:49, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
The reference about the novel Billy Bathgate is incorrect. The unnamed gangster that Billy meets with is clearly Lucky Luciano. He is described as Italian with a scar and a droopy eyelid. He is also in a position superior to Dutch Schultz in the underworld heirarchy. The correct reference is that the character Bo, brags to Billy about having killed Legs Diamond on orders from Dutch Shultz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chsig ( talk • contribs) 04:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move the article to Legs Diamond and the disambiguation page to Legs Diamond (disambiguation), per the discussion below. (Also, few links to take care of here.) Dekimasu よ! 00:39, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Jack Diamond (gangster) → Legs Diamond – Analogous to main title headers for biographical entries describing such infamous criminal celebrities as Lucky Luciano, Baby Face Nelson or Pretty Boy Floyd, subject was not known to the public as "Jack", but as "Legs". He is referenced as "Legs" in contemporary news coverage and has continued to be so referenced in popular culture. All the other uses of the name "Legs Diamond" which appear in the Legs Diamond (disambiguation) page are named after him, thus clearly making him the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 15:19, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Simply because they were named after him doesn't guarantee that he is the primary topic, although it is an indicator, but it must be established that this the gangster is 'more likely than all the other topics combined' to be what the reader is looking for. Incoming links also need to be resolved - incoming links that lead to a disambiguation page can cause slight inconvenience, but going to the wrong article can cause serious confusion. Nominator would usually resolve these before nominating, especially as this is its second nomination. Boleyn ( talk) 17:07, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
This sentence, besides lacking a citation, doesn't actually make sense: "Diamond was also loyal,[citation needed] but was not averse to betraying someone when he saw fit." Even if it's preceded by "for a gangster," it's just illogical. It seems it has to be cut. zadignose ( talk) 07:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. The consensus is that the current title is both more common and more accurately conforms to out naming guidelines. Jenks24 ( talk) 06:14, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Legs Diamond →
Jack "Legs" Diamond – The proposed name has been still often used, especially by following books and news articles.
WP:TITLEFORMAT might discourage use of quotation marks, but it also allows use of them if they are used as part of name or title. Sources have done so lately. Off-topic, but there is
Betty Legs Diamond. This is
George Ho actually (
Talk) 20:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Books:
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7].
Uncertain about this source; it uses "Legs" mainly.
Articles:
[8]
[9]
[10].
Playbill uses Jack and Legs separately.
This uses proposed name once but mainly uses "Legs"; same with
this one.
NY Times doesn't use "Jack".
This is
George Ho actually (
Talk) 20:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Notable distinctions can be explained in the article, but avoid (for example) adding a nickname ... between first and last name." Most sources use "Legs Diamond" predominantly or exclusively. — BarrelProof ( talk) 23:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
though they are best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply."). Also, BarrelProof, per WP:DIVIDEDUSE, if "most common" name is not yet determined,
"Use what would be the least surprising to a user finding the article."Sources within last 365 days: ("Legs Diamond") Forbes Sioux City Journal The Villager The Guardian Daily Beast [11] ("Jack 'Legs' Diamond") Almanac Weekly Salon [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]. I excluded articles that mention just musicals and Legs Diamond (band). George Ho ( talk) 04:14, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
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EVERYONE knows that Diamond was killed by Irving "Bitsy" Bitz and Sal Spitale when he wouldn't returtn their investment on a deal gone wrong.. who writes these things? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.252.167 ( talk • contribs) 05:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, we won't know because there are no meaningful citations in the article, in fact, are there any citations?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.96.45 ( talk) 00:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
he was a half brother to the actor george brent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.78.155.230 ( talk) 23:09, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
What is your source? Both men's fathers are named John, but have different last names and are apparently different men. One man's mother is named Mary and the other man's mother is named Sara. How could they be half brothers? 2600:1700:7F11:6420:9D37:86A5:C3C7:4CAB ( talk) 19:49, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
The reference about the novel Billy Bathgate is incorrect. The unnamed gangster that Billy meets with is clearly Lucky Luciano. He is described as Italian with a scar and a droopy eyelid. He is also in a position superior to Dutch Schultz in the underworld heirarchy. The correct reference is that the character Bo, brags to Billy about having killed Legs Diamond on orders from Dutch Shultz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chsig ( talk • contribs) 04:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move the article to Legs Diamond and the disambiguation page to Legs Diamond (disambiguation), per the discussion below. (Also, few links to take care of here.) Dekimasu よ! 00:39, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Jack Diamond (gangster) → Legs Diamond – Analogous to main title headers for biographical entries describing such infamous criminal celebrities as Lucky Luciano, Baby Face Nelson or Pretty Boy Floyd, subject was not known to the public as "Jack", but as "Legs". He is referenced as "Legs" in contemporary news coverage and has continued to be so referenced in popular culture. All the other uses of the name "Legs Diamond" which appear in the Legs Diamond (disambiguation) page are named after him, thus clearly making him the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 15:19, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Simply because they were named after him doesn't guarantee that he is the primary topic, although it is an indicator, but it must be established that this the gangster is 'more likely than all the other topics combined' to be what the reader is looking for. Incoming links also need to be resolved - incoming links that lead to a disambiguation page can cause slight inconvenience, but going to the wrong article can cause serious confusion. Nominator would usually resolve these before nominating, especially as this is its second nomination. Boleyn ( talk) 17:07, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
This sentence, besides lacking a citation, doesn't actually make sense: "Diamond was also loyal,[citation needed] but was not averse to betraying someone when he saw fit." Even if it's preceded by "for a gangster," it's just illogical. It seems it has to be cut. zadignose ( talk) 07:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. The consensus is that the current title is both more common and more accurately conforms to out naming guidelines. Jenks24 ( talk) 06:14, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Legs Diamond →
Jack "Legs" Diamond – The proposed name has been still often used, especially by following books and news articles.
WP:TITLEFORMAT might discourage use of quotation marks, but it also allows use of them if they are used as part of name or title. Sources have done so lately. Off-topic, but there is
Betty Legs Diamond. This is
George Ho actually (
Talk) 20:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Books:
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7].
Uncertain about this source; it uses "Legs" mainly.
Articles:
[8]
[9]
[10].
Playbill uses Jack and Legs separately.
This uses proposed name once but mainly uses "Legs"; same with
this one.
NY Times doesn't use "Jack".
This is
George Ho actually (
Talk) 20:43, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Notable distinctions can be explained in the article, but avoid (for example) adding a nickname ... between first and last name." Most sources use "Legs Diamond" predominantly or exclusively. — BarrelProof ( talk) 23:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
though they are best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply."). Also, BarrelProof, per WP:DIVIDEDUSE, if "most common" name is not yet determined,
"Use what would be the least surprising to a user finding the article."Sources within last 365 days: ("Legs Diamond") Forbes Sioux City Journal The Villager The Guardian Daily Beast [11] ("Jack 'Legs' Diamond") Almanac Weekly Salon [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]. I excluded articles that mention just musicals and Legs Diamond (band). George Ho ( talk) 04:14, 21 October 2015 (UTC)