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I note that a team from Londonderry plays in this league, and as such the
Northern Ireland template can be used here to signify a Northern Irish element to the league. I will add this to the infobox.
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The manual of style for Ireland-related topics states that, where confusion may arise, Republic of Ireland should be used rather than Ireland. Given that the League of Ireland Premier Division is the first tier of the Republic of Ireland's (not the whole island's) football league, the intro should therefore used Republic of Ireland. Confusion could arise because, in sport, Ireland is usually treated as a single unit. Football is an exception. Also, in football terms, "Republic of Ireland" is the UEFA- and FIFA-recognised name for the 26 counties. Mooretwin ( talk) 21:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
O Fenian feels that there is no need for the flag that represents Northern Irish football to be used in the list of clubs for Derry City. It seems good enough for the infobox when stating that one team is from NI, however O Fenian seems to feel that we don't need to declare which team is the one that is actually from Northern Ireland. The flag is small and simple and its placement after Derry City makes it clear to the reader without having to go into describing it. Its placement before it by the editor who originally added was bad, but it fits better after "Derry City". It is also used on the article for the managers who are from Northern Ireland so i don't see what the problem is with it. Mabuska (talk) 21:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a need for direct quotes O Fenian as i think you haven't got a case:
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Is it a case of WP:IDONTLIKE O Fenian? The manual of style doesn't back up your stance. The use of the icon has a very good valid reason and follows the precedent used for managers. Mabuska (talk) 23:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
In fact just for you O Fenian here are more football league articles that use flags: Campeonato Brasileiro Série A, Canadian Soccer League, Primera División de México, Argentine Primera División, Chinese Super League, J. League Division 1, National First Division - wierdly enough top division didn't have it but all lower leagues do, Papua New Guinea National Soccer League, Ligue Haïtienne, Algerian Ligue Professionnelle 1, etc. etc. though obviously all articles probably don't. It would appear that its a very consistent theme and one of your arguements was consistency. Mabuska (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
UEFA the governing body dont use the UB to represent Derry as seen here so totally against the UB being used here. Mo ainm ~Talk 15:26, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Don't make accusations Mo Ainm, your only tarnishing your own arguement, as it would be very easy to say your opposition is point scoring. I even agreed that you where correct but you go on complaining for some reason. The team presents the RoI however its not from the RoI. Ligue 1 shows a perfect example of a league with a team from another country having its country stated. As i now agree to your reasons for seeing the removal of the UB this part of the discussion is over. Mabuska (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
The use of the union jack in this article is ridiculous. All flags should be removed to take away the opportunity for political point scoring like this. Onetonycousins ( talk) 14:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I added what i think is actually a far better way to signify the fact Derry City F.C. aren't based in the Republic of Ireland without the need for a flag-icon after it. Just a simple sentence at the start of the clubs section making it clear that Derry City isn't based in the RoI but NI. Not very controversial and straight to the point. Mabuska (talk) 13:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Let us know when you're finished destroying the formatting in this article Mabuska. You're a credit to britain, the queen of england has you down for one of those medals she gives to war criminals and fraudsters. Nice to see you out of the closet with the section title. Onetonycousins ( talk) 13:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Seeing as this is seperated issued from how to signify Derry City F.C. isn't based in the RoI i'll start this in a new section.
Mo ainm, the infobox is stating which countries the league's teams come from. In this case obviously the RoI and one from NI. Its on about countries not football associations so that means no UB however a UJ as that is the only official flag for NI. Flags as shown above appear to be the standard for football league articles in the countries section. Ligue 1 uses them for both countries as well. This article has also used a flag for the RoI since it was made into an article over 4 years ago back in 2006.
The Home Nations for some reason don't have flags shown despite the fact most other leagues do. So if the RoI is to maintain its flag going by your edits then NI should have its - otherwise Onetonycousin is correct and there should be no flags at all. Point-scoring Mo ainm?? Your reasons for its exclusion whilst maintaining the RoI's don't add up. Mabuska (talk) 21:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Link here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Football_league_infobox_question. Hopefully we can keep our sarcasm and throw-backs out of it and just concentrate on the actual issue and the points raised in a more professional way than we have been doing. Mabuska (talk) 22:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I added a contradiction template to this section because the figures for capacities don't match. Also the article says there is little disparity in capacity but the table shows capacity varies from 2,000 to 9,600. User:Boreas74 Talk 14:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
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I note that a team from Londonderry plays in this league, and as such the
Northern Ireland template can be used here to signify a Northern Irish element to the league. I will add this to the infobox.
Astrotrain
19:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The manual of style for Ireland-related topics states that, where confusion may arise, Republic of Ireland should be used rather than Ireland. Given that the League of Ireland Premier Division is the first tier of the Republic of Ireland's (not the whole island's) football league, the intro should therefore used Republic of Ireland. Confusion could arise because, in sport, Ireland is usually treated as a single unit. Football is an exception. Also, in football terms, "Republic of Ireland" is the UEFA- and FIFA-recognised name for the 26 counties. Mooretwin ( talk) 21:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
O Fenian feels that there is no need for the flag that represents Northern Irish football to be used in the list of clubs for Derry City. It seems good enough for the infobox when stating that one team is from NI, however O Fenian seems to feel that we don't need to declare which team is the one that is actually from Northern Ireland. The flag is small and simple and its placement after Derry City makes it clear to the reader without having to go into describing it. Its placement before it by the editor who originally added was bad, but it fits better after "Derry City". It is also used on the article for the managers who are from Northern Ireland so i don't see what the problem is with it. Mabuska (talk) 21:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a need for direct quotes O Fenian as i think you haven't got a case:
2 Flags
Is it a case of WP:IDONTLIKE O Fenian? The manual of style doesn't back up your stance. The use of the icon has a very good valid reason and follows the precedent used for managers. Mabuska (talk) 23:56, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
In fact just for you O Fenian here are more football league articles that use flags: Campeonato Brasileiro Série A, Canadian Soccer League, Primera División de México, Argentine Primera División, Chinese Super League, J. League Division 1, National First Division - wierdly enough top division didn't have it but all lower leagues do, Papua New Guinea National Soccer League, Ligue Haïtienne, Algerian Ligue Professionnelle 1, etc. etc. though obviously all articles probably don't. It would appear that its a very consistent theme and one of your arguements was consistency. Mabuska (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
UEFA the governing body dont use the UB to represent Derry as seen here so totally against the UB being used here. Mo ainm ~Talk 15:26, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Don't make accusations Mo Ainm, your only tarnishing your own arguement, as it would be very easy to say your opposition is point scoring. I even agreed that you where correct but you go on complaining for some reason. The team presents the RoI however its not from the RoI. Ligue 1 shows a perfect example of a league with a team from another country having its country stated. As i now agree to your reasons for seeing the removal of the UB this part of the discussion is over. Mabuska (talk) 22:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
The use of the union jack in this article is ridiculous. All flags should be removed to take away the opportunity for political point scoring like this. Onetonycousins ( talk) 14:23, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I added what i think is actually a far better way to signify the fact Derry City F.C. aren't based in the Republic of Ireland without the need for a flag-icon after it. Just a simple sentence at the start of the clubs section making it clear that Derry City isn't based in the RoI but NI. Not very controversial and straight to the point. Mabuska (talk) 13:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Let us know when you're finished destroying the formatting in this article Mabuska. You're a credit to britain, the queen of england has you down for one of those medals she gives to war criminals and fraudsters. Nice to see you out of the closet with the section title. Onetonycousins ( talk) 13:42, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Seeing as this is seperated issued from how to signify Derry City F.C. isn't based in the RoI i'll start this in a new section.
Mo ainm, the infobox is stating which countries the league's teams come from. In this case obviously the RoI and one from NI. Its on about countries not football associations so that means no UB however a UJ as that is the only official flag for NI. Flags as shown above appear to be the standard for football league articles in the countries section. Ligue 1 uses them for both countries as well. This article has also used a flag for the RoI since it was made into an article over 4 years ago back in 2006.
The Home Nations for some reason don't have flags shown despite the fact most other leagues do. So if the RoI is to maintain its flag going by your edits then NI should have its - otherwise Onetonycousin is correct and there should be no flags at all. Point-scoring Mo ainm?? Your reasons for its exclusion whilst maintaining the RoI's don't add up. Mabuska (talk) 21:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Link here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Football_league_infobox_question. Hopefully we can keep our sarcasm and throw-backs out of it and just concentrate on the actual issue and the points raised in a more professional way than we have been doing. Mabuska (talk) 22:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
I added a contradiction template to this section because the figures for capacities don't match. Also the article says there is little disparity in capacity but the table shows capacity varies from 2,000 to 9,600. User:Boreas74 Talk 14:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
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