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September 2008

Does this really need to be a seperate article? It seemed to be perfectl at home on the Labour Party article. G-Man ? 21:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Yes it does. TrottieTrue ( talk) 21:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC) reply

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"Scottish Labour will ditch Miliband as leader"

Kate Devlin, The Herald, 26 September 2011
-- Mais oui! ( talk) 08:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Kier Hardie

Is there a good reason (or any reason) why Kier Hardie is not included in the list? note: he is named as the inaugural holder of the office in the caption Zanzare ( talk) 19:22, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Capitalisation

Is it really "Leader of the Labour Party", or should it be "leader of the Labour party"?-- SGBailey ( talk) 22:15, 12 September 2015 (UTC) reply

  • I would say so yes. The word Leader is the title of the positin

Please comment on a RfC at Talk:Jeremy Corbyn#RfC on infobox image

Please share your input in an RfC relating to what image should be used in the infobox at the Wikipedia page for the Leader of the British Labour Party (and at this page) AusLondonder ( talk) 09:24, 19 May 2016 (UTC) reply

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John Smith

I find it very sad that John Smith is the only leader without a photo. Is there really no royalty-free photo that could be used? Mistertickle ( talk) 23:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC) reply

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Should this page be semi-protected temporarily?

Even after the election I still see a number of recent cases of vandalism repeating propaganda against the current leader rather than sticking to factual and relevant information. Whyisalltheusernamegone ( talk) 05:54, 15 December 2019 (UTC) reply

Corbyn shadowing Johnson

In the table, Corbyn shadowed three Prime Ministers including Johnson. I'm having difficulty making this change. Could someone please reflect this fact in an edit? SW1APolitico ( talk) 12:10, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Fair use rules- inconsistent?

Apparently the reason we can't add the image of John Smith from his article is that images should only be used in one Wikipedia article. However there are plenty of other examples of this rule being broken - not least the picture of Keir Starmer being used here which is the same as the one in his own article. Or am I missing something? MFlet1 ( talk) 10:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

The difference is that the image of Keir Starmer is freely licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license meaning it is a "free image". Therefore it does not need to meet the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria whereas the image of John Smith does. Regards  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 14:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

OK, thanks. Guess I need to read up on this. MFlet1 ( talk) 17:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

Sir Keir?

Should Keir Starmer be styled “Sir Keir Starmer” in the article lead and infobox? TrottieTrue ( talk) 22:09, 25 April 2021 (UTC) reply

Extraneous titles are not necessary. A similar example would be Planet Earth where Attenborough is credited with his name without any additional titles. Whyisalltheusernamegone ( talk) 13:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC) reply

Length of tenure

The article doesn't say but one assumes that there is not a fixed period between elections. The Leader stays in position until they resign or are voted out (vote of no confidence by a percentage of the PLP) Perhaps this could all be clarified 11:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC) Chevin ( talk) 11:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Leaders without experience

It might be worth noting that only Keir Hardie, George Barnes, William Adamson and Ramsay MacDonald had become Labour leader without any previous roles in the party, prior to Jeremy Corbyn. The latter is certainly the only post-war leader to do so. TrottieTrue ( talk) 17:19, 2 September 2022 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

September 2008

Does this really need to be a seperate article? It seemed to be perfectl at home on the Labour Party article. G-Man ? 21:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC) reply

Yes it does. TrottieTrue ( talk) 21:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC) reply

The image Image:Hugh Gaitskell.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

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"Scottish Labour will ditch Miliband as leader"

Kate Devlin, The Herald, 26 September 2011
-- Mais oui! ( talk) 08:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC) reply

Kier Hardie

Is there a good reason (or any reason) why Kier Hardie is not included in the list? note: he is named as the inaugural holder of the office in the caption Zanzare ( talk) 19:22, 13 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Capitalisation

Is it really "Leader of the Labour Party", or should it be "leader of the Labour party"?-- SGBailey ( talk) 22:15, 12 September 2015 (UTC) reply

  • I would say so yes. The word Leader is the title of the positin

Please comment on a RfC at Talk:Jeremy Corbyn#RfC on infobox image

Please share your input in an RfC relating to what image should be used in the infobox at the Wikipedia page for the Leader of the British Labour Party (and at this page) AusLondonder ( talk) 09:24, 19 May 2016 (UTC) reply

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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John Smith

I find it very sad that John Smith is the only leader without a photo. Is there really no royalty-free photo that could be used? Mistertickle ( talk) 23:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC) reply

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:

You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 07:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Should this page be semi-protected temporarily?

Even after the election I still see a number of recent cases of vandalism repeating propaganda against the current leader rather than sticking to factual and relevant information. Whyisalltheusernamegone ( talk) 05:54, 15 December 2019 (UTC) reply

Corbyn shadowing Johnson

In the table, Corbyn shadowed three Prime Ministers including Johnson. I'm having difficulty making this change. Could someone please reflect this fact in an edit? SW1APolitico ( talk) 12:10, 18 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Fair use rules- inconsistent?

Apparently the reason we can't add the image of John Smith from his article is that images should only be used in one Wikipedia article. However there are plenty of other examples of this rule being broken - not least the picture of Keir Starmer being used here which is the same as the one in his own article. Or am I missing something? MFlet1 ( talk) 10:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

The difference is that the image of Keir Starmer is freely licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license meaning it is a "free image". Therefore it does not need to meet the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria whereas the image of John Smith does. Regards  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 14:26, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

OK, thanks. Guess I need to read up on this. MFlet1 ( talk) 17:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

Sir Keir?

Should Keir Starmer be styled “Sir Keir Starmer” in the article lead and infobox? TrottieTrue ( talk) 22:09, 25 April 2021 (UTC) reply

Extraneous titles are not necessary. A similar example would be Planet Earth where Attenborough is credited with his name without any additional titles. Whyisalltheusernamegone ( talk) 13:01, 5 July 2022 (UTC) reply

Length of tenure

The article doesn't say but one assumes that there is not a fixed period between elections. The Leader stays in position until they resign or are voted out (vote of no confidence by a percentage of the PLP) Perhaps this could all be clarified 11:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC) Chevin ( talk) 11:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC) reply

Leaders without experience

It might be worth noting that only Keir Hardie, George Barnes, William Adamson and Ramsay MacDonald had become Labour leader without any previous roles in the party, prior to Jeremy Corbyn. The latter is certainly the only post-war leader to do so. TrottieTrue ( talk) 17:19, 2 September 2022 (UTC) reply


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