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DuncanHill: Continuing from
this discussion I would make reference to
this post. It appears that the parish hasn't been renamed, even if the council call it just "Lawhitton". Crouch, Swale (
talk) 19:12, 3 March 2018 (UTC)reply
OK the civil parish is "Lawhitton Rucral" acording to OS. Its called just Lawhitton by its council. Fine, those are both factual. However, it strays into the realms of original research to say (1) "Lawhitton is a former civil parish" and (2) "that former parish is contained within the modern parish". If anything, that 2nd statement is flat incorrect as it appears the ancient parish of Lawhitton was split into Urban and Rural parts.
Crouch, several editors have noticed you are sailing very close to the wind on naming conventions. Your obsession with the "correct" name is definitely on the edges of the restrictions, and I do not consider edits like the ones here conducive to improving Wikipedia. If you continue, I think I will have to go to ARBCOM and ask that those restrictions are extended to cover edits like these, or the full block re-instated.
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Nilfanion: Yes there was an urban as well. What I was saying is that (1) there was a CP called "Lawhitton" (hence the word "former") that
contained the village and that today the village lies in "Lawhitton Rural" CP. Yes I agree that the wording was poor and possible could mistake someone, the words "village and former civil parish, now in the civil parish of Lawhitton Rural" do imply that the former CP is in Lawhitton Rural.
I have added and clarified info, apart from the potential confusion, do you not think that I have improved it?, "Lawhitton" and "Lawhitton Rural" are 2 different CPs, which is quite separate from naming conventions, though I understand why that has been brought up. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 18:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I just noticed something else, as I was about to add more about the abolished CPs, the population figure that I have given is after the 1894 split, should I just delete that text or replace it with data before the split? The question is when was Lawhitton abolished?Crouch, Swale (
talk) 18:22, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Re-read my 2nd paragraph, and consider the spirit not the letter of the rules. Quibbling about the correct name to call things is well into the grey area.
As for relevant dates: Find a source. That would give you the answer. Its not a question of debate if its well-sourced. If there is no source, you are straying into OR to say anything at all.--
Nilfanion (
talk) 18:29, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes I accept and agree with that, I need to be very careful here, even if it doesn't violate the spirit it is still borderline/a grey area.
This source clarify things, it clearly highlights why my text about the former and current CPs was problematic, as
Lawhitton Urban was merged into
Launceston thus Lawhitton CP was probably larger than Lawhitton Rural is today, so could easily cause confusion, I will change the population figure to before, 1894, thanks. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 18:52, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I realized my mistake with the population, the figure and source were correct, I had just given the wrong year. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 19:02, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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DuncanHill: Continuing from
this discussion I would make reference to
this post. It appears that the parish hasn't been renamed, even if the council call it just "Lawhitton". Crouch, Swale (
talk) 19:12, 3 March 2018 (UTC)reply
OK the civil parish is "Lawhitton Rucral" acording to OS. Its called just Lawhitton by its council. Fine, those are both factual. However, it strays into the realms of original research to say (1) "Lawhitton is a former civil parish" and (2) "that former parish is contained within the modern parish". If anything, that 2nd statement is flat incorrect as it appears the ancient parish of Lawhitton was split into Urban and Rural parts.
Crouch, several editors have noticed you are sailing very close to the wind on naming conventions. Your obsession with the "correct" name is definitely on the edges of the restrictions, and I do not consider edits like the ones here conducive to improving Wikipedia. If you continue, I think I will have to go to ARBCOM and ask that those restrictions are extended to cover edits like these, or the full block re-instated.
@
Nilfanion: Yes there was an urban as well. What I was saying is that (1) there was a CP called "Lawhitton" (hence the word "former") that
contained the village and that today the village lies in "Lawhitton Rural" CP. Yes I agree that the wording was poor and possible could mistake someone, the words "village and former civil parish, now in the civil parish of Lawhitton Rural" do imply that the former CP is in Lawhitton Rural.
I have added and clarified info, apart from the potential confusion, do you not think that I have improved it?, "Lawhitton" and "Lawhitton Rural" are 2 different CPs, which is quite separate from naming conventions, though I understand why that has been brought up. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 18:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I just noticed something else, as I was about to add more about the abolished CPs, the population figure that I have given is after the 1894 split, should I just delete that text or replace it with data before the split? The question is when was Lawhitton abolished?Crouch, Swale (
talk) 18:22, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Re-read my 2nd paragraph, and consider the spirit not the letter of the rules. Quibbling about the correct name to call things is well into the grey area.
As for relevant dates: Find a source. That would give you the answer. Its not a question of debate if its well-sourced. If there is no source, you are straying into OR to say anything at all.--
Nilfanion (
talk) 18:29, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes I accept and agree with that, I need to be very careful here, even if it doesn't violate the spirit it is still borderline/a grey area.
This source clarify things, it clearly highlights why my text about the former and current CPs was problematic, as
Lawhitton Urban was merged into
Launceston thus Lawhitton CP was probably larger than Lawhitton Rural is today, so could easily cause confusion, I will change the population figure to before, 1894, thanks. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 18:52, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
I realized my mistake with the population, the figure and source were correct, I had just given the wrong year. Crouch, Swale (
talk) 19:02, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply