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Hi GrammarFascist, regarding your comments about my article on Lavdrim Muhaxheri, I added it as an open draft prior to submitting it, then other users have been able to edit it. I will check the references and update any missing reference. I'll have this done later this week. Thank you for your input and pardon the missing references. Regards, Kewin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinLiam ( talk • contribs) 19:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi again GrammarFacist, KewinRozz it is. About the references that I removed from the Lavdrim Muhaxheri article, please note that the international media that published the story first, Daily Mail and Independent http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3090886/ISIS-execute-man-BAZOOKA-shocking-new-video.html, Dailymail, BusinessInsiders and so on haven't stated that Lavdrim Muhaxheri appears in the video called Bazooka or RPG video, Independent also explicitly stated that the video is uncensored http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-purportedly-executes-man-with-a-bazooka-in-disturbing-propaganda-video-10267322.html. It's a good thing to point out to other editors since it's often confused by some media outlets but it's not reliable information. Regards Kewin — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz ( talk • contribs) 21:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
title=
field should always be the exact title given in the source (I recommend copy & paste to avoid typos) rather than your personal description of what the source is or says. Also be careful when replacing one source with another that you don't leave behind stray information that isn't correct for the new source, such as publication dates.Hi GrammarFacist, the media refered to initially in "Media coverage of Muhaxheri in 2014 and beyond" is in general about the publication of Lavdrim Muhaxheri.
The Independent and the others who wrote about the RPG video do not mention Lavdrim Muhaxheri. Here's the part about the verification of the RPG video which they state hasn't been independently verified, meaning it's uncensored; "The shocking footage, which has not been independently verified, was reportedly filmed in Syria’s eastern province of Deir Ezzor on Wednesday." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-purportedly-executes-man-with-a-bazooka-in-disturbing-propaganda-video-10267322.html
Regarding the article about it, article that I changed reference to had a description of the content was an actual article so why not keep it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz ( talk • contribs) 00:55, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi GrammarFacist, the Liveleak post that you're referring to is a post that I wrote, (Liam00 is my user account on Liveleak). This is what I wrote "The video doesn't show images of the subjects face after the attack since he's faced down on the ground". As I see the citation, either the "citation needed" tag or "not in citation" tag could be used with or without the reference since it refers to the part in the article where it states that a part in the video is "cut out", which isn't stated in that Liveleak post.
I've emailed the Independent about it and they replied to my email on the 26th may 2015 with the following;"as the article states this video and the details contained within it have not been independently verified". Regarding the term "uncensored"; Not examined, expurgated, or given a rating for inclusion of improper or inappropriate material: received uncensored correspondence from a theater of military operations; sells uncensored movies and novels." Alternatively "uncensored" could be changed to "not independently verified" or "independently unverified video and content" Liveleak Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=820_1432489194#El8dOXaD3buKGO2b.99 — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz ( talk • contribs) 09:08, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi GrammarFacist, I saw that you mentioned me in Archive 3, not sure which post? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz ( talk • contribs) 12:52, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, read the reference article about Camp Bondsteel and other information about NATO/ KFOR's establishment and purpose of Camp Bondsteel. talk KewinRozz ( talk) 12:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC) Hi Zoupan, how can he be pseudonymed "Lavdrim Muhaxheri" when it is his name? The video is of Lavdrim.' They don't know if it's him for sure, read Parzsuck where they discuss the video [11]. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 17:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
begin at the newly opened camp bondsteel KewinRozz ( talk) 18:27, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, the same information about the jihadi fighters is written in 'From NATO to Islamic State (IS)' KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 20:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Zoupan, there's no citation needed in Early Life, it's already stated in article ref number 9 KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 21:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, the reason why I edited it is because you wrote that he fought in Syria, read the part about the prosecution under Activity in ISIS, the prosecution claim that he didn't fight in Syria and this was published last friday. At least not what they mention, they claim that he didn'f fight with the others who are indicted and who he was with. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 21:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC) Further, the Rexhepi part in 'From NATO to Islamic State (IS)' is a response to the videos so it should be directly after that part which is why I moved it there. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 22:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
As the prosecution have indicted imams and other members as responsible for the group that Muhaxheri was involved with in 2012-2013 Syria I've now edited the intro sentence and removed 'leader' in accordance with the latest articles, see ref number 18. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 09:37, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi TU-nor, which subcategory is 'People of the Syrian Civil War' part of? KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 10:32, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't have much time to devote to it at the moment, but this article is rife with blatant original research and WP:SYNTH. Examples: "...which makes it more plausible to assume that the footage would be from Iraq but it could also be from elsewhere...", "...Thus the photo only shows parts of the head from the side and in absence of greater portions of the face, heavily covered in a substance that, by some, has been assumed to be blood." It's not Wikipedia's job to speculate. Material in Wikipedia should be directly linked to what is stated in reliable sources, period. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ohnoitsjamie' The footage is unverified thus written about in the referenced articles. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 17:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
On 6 September 2014 it became public known that a Kosova prosecutor had been granted an international warrant at the Court of Ferizaj for Muhaxheri's arrest, entailing an international warrant for Muhaxheri at Interpol, for his affiliation with terrorist organisations. [1]. The prosecution had obtained text message conversations claimed to be sent and received between the period 12 August 2015 to 5 Oktober 2013 by Lavdrim Muhaxheri and other individuals who have traveled to Syria by crossing the border between the Hatay Province in Turkey and Syria. Muhaxheri was believed to have traveled to Syria at two(2) occasions between 2012-2013. The first time was between period 2012 to May 2013, wherefrom he returned to Kosova wounded. The second time was sometime after May 2013 and Muhaxheri left Syria to Kosova on 4 October 2013, based on a text message. According to the prosecution's indictment Muhaxheri had received text messages with telephone numbers of people who either had been or were to be recruited to join IS in Syria. According to the prosecution Muhaxheri had not engaged in fighting in Syria with the other indicted individuals.' KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 16:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC) References
- it's article ref number 19, 'As he returned wounded...', it's there now again KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 15:32, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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KewinRozz is repeatedly restoring Category:People of the Kosovo War to the article. (Just for the record, the removal by IP2.150. yesterday was mine.) This is clearly nonsense. Even if he worked at Camp Bondsteel at some point, it does not mean that he worked there in 1999, when he was 10 years old. That KFOR employed a 10 year old boy as a translator is just absurd. Unless you can give a source that puts him on the spot in 1999, please refrain from restoring again.
@KewinRozz will also need to learn more about how Wikipedia works. I suggest that they study some Wiki guidelines before they continue their edits. Some recommendations could be WP:Consensus, WP:Edit war, WP:OR, WP:SYNTH and not least WP:Edit summary. As far as I can see, they have never ever used an edit summary. -- T*U ( talk) 14:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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from article tagged to camp bondsteel;
'about Camp Bondsteel and Kosovo war, ref 9,'Construction of the base began immediately after the controversial 78-day, NATO bombing on the former Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War. Camp Bondsteel was established to provide safety and security in the region. In February 2008, Kosovo unilaterally declared itself an independent state from Serbia. '
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'Albanian mujahedin leader in Syria, Lavdrim Muhaxheri worked for American KFOR'in in Kosovo in camp "Bondsteel" in Ferizaj, have announced to his friends Express newspaper in Kacanik',from ref 9 if refs
These sources are just as valid as for the People of Iraq War. I've added these sources in the first section of the talkpage. I'll move the discussion here. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 14:29, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm questioning some of the reverts to versions that are questionable to the header - subjects and some questionable edits to the ref articles User:KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 14:42, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
TU-nor, parts of your version isn't supported and what's stated in the ref articles KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 14:47, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
KewinRozz ( talk) 17:53, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
KewinRozz that means reaching concensus but you didn't attempt to discuss your edits with me prior to changing headlines and content. I'm open for a discussion. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 17:54, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
TU-norto begin with, I'm fine with 'Activities and media reports' but not 'Joining Jihad' because the section isn't motivating 'why' he joined 'jihad', it's about him going from NATO to IS and that's why I see the 'from NATO to Islamic State (IS)' as consistent, what's the objection ?
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I've checked OP & SYNTH, references. I added the bio that was initially published on Muhaxheri for early life. I've merged early life and background. I merged two sections into 'Government reactions'. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 20:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
The difference from the latest synth- issue version are 5 articles that repeat what's already stated. If they are to be re-attached then they need to be referenced correctly. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 16:17, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
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article's in early life which aren't used in that section, 7 and 9. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 16:32, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
WP:Administrators, "Administrators should not use their tools to advantage, or in a content dispute (or article) where they are a party (or significant editor), or where a significant conflict of interest is likely to exist." There are numerous of SYNTH issues for instance, ref for this is 'were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo.' or the Clanging of the Swords 4, what part in 7 and 9 is used in Lavdrim Muhaxheri, a Kosovo Albanian Muslim, was born on 12 March 1989[6] in the town of Kačanik,[7][8][9]? KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 17:29, 25 January 2016 (UTC) First part: 'Lavdrim Muhaxheri, a Kosovo Albanian Muslim, was born on 12 March 1989[6] in the town of Kačanik,[7][8][9] located on the border between Kosovo and Macedonia. He was raised Muslim, living with his father and brothers in the absence of his mother. Muhaxheri grew up during the Kosovo War (1989–99) during which he and his family were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo. He graduated from the Skanderbeg School. His education earned him a position as an English translator in the the American Kosovo Force (KFOR) camp, "Camp Bondsteel"[8] in the city of Ferizaj in southeastern Kosovo. He worked at Camp Bondsteel until 2010, when he was promoted to a North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) training camp in Afghanistan.[10]' [7][8][9] - are irrelevant here. 'Muhaxheri grew up during the Kosovo War (1989–99) during which he and his family were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo.- ref missing/ replaced since written English translator is ref article that I added in the bio that you've now removed so this has no ref at the moment, the current articles in this section are not supportive at the moment, so the first bio should be re - added to support it. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 18:12, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Please use names of refs (publishers, dates, links) and not ref numbers which are fluctuating betweens diffs. This has been made clear to you several times. It is very hard to understand your points. All cleanup that has been made is actually problems that you yourself introduced? --
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Articles often mention both medial reports from 29 July 2014 about Muhahxeri allegedy appearing on beheading footage from Syria [17] and a warrant from Court of Ferizaj and Interpol from the 6 September 2014 in the same articles but they don’t claim that the warrant is issued for the alleged beheading footage [17]; ‘The demand comes from the Basic Court of Ferizaj, which has issued a warrant for Muhaxheri after he is accused of terrorism and organized groups to go to Syria and Iraq’ [17]'. Published court records on 15 January 2016 only mention text messages as evidence for recruitment.[65] The question is about formulation of medial claims in regard to NPOV; avoid stating opinions as facts; shouldn't ‘On 29 July 2014 Muhaxheri uploaded photos to a Facebook page where he is seen beheading an unidentified young man in Syria.’(1/2) (2/3) be stated as 'According to Balkan media, on 29 July 2014 an individual posted two (2) images to a Facebook page under the pseudonym "Lavdrim Muhaxheri" ( it's questioned which published footage is of Muhaxheri [11]) that, to some extent, give the impression of a man having beheaded an unidentified young man.' or something to the effect of a neutral statement where it's mentioned who's claiming it? (1/2) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&diff=prev&oldid=700631550 (2/3) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&diff=prev&oldid=700798610
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Wow. You really refuse to understand what everyone is explaining to you. I have no intention in continuing any discussion of your personal conclusions.-- Zoupan 18:53, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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On 29 December 2015 Balkan media claimed that Lavdrim Muhaxheri was in Ar-Rutbah in Iraq based on images and information from a post in a twitter - account. The unverified images, which are taken from a newsclip aired by arab media on an unknown date, were posted on the twitter - account on 16 July 2015. In the same article it's claimed that Lavdrim Muhaxheri has been staying in Ar-Rutbah since September 2015, based on information from unnamed sources. [61] Some media outlets claimed that the images disprove reports from 2 December 2015 about Lavdrim Muhaxheri being physically paralyzed in Syria, thus the Ar-Rutbah - images were posted on the twitter - account on 16 July 2015, a date prior to reports about Muhaxheri being paralyzed and in Syria.[62] The same images and claims about Lavdrim Muhaxheri being in Ar-Rutbah in Iraq were reported on 29 January 2015. [63] in this edithttps://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&oldid=700637976 KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 22:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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May I ask why concensus is needed (KewinRozz: "seek consensus again") for moving external links (Interpol profile, video interviews) previously in the article body, used erroneously as references (citations) by KewinRozz himself?-- Zoupan 22:33, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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Isnt he dead or not? -- Marik-modder ( talk) 20:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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(The beginning of this conversation has been pasted from GrammarFascist's talk page.)
Hi GrammarFascist, regarding your comments about my article on Lavdrim Muhaxheri, I added it as an open draft prior to submitting it, then other users have been able to edit it. I will check the references and update any missing reference. I'll have this done later this week. Thank you for your input and pardon the missing references. Regards, Kewin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinLiam ( talk • contribs) 19:04, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi again GrammarFacist, KewinRozz it is. About the references that I removed from the Lavdrim Muhaxheri article, please note that the international media that published the story first, Daily Mail and Independent http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3090886/ISIS-execute-man-BAZOOKA-shocking-new-video.html, Dailymail, BusinessInsiders and so on haven't stated that Lavdrim Muhaxheri appears in the video called Bazooka or RPG video, Independent also explicitly stated that the video is uncensored http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-purportedly-executes-man-with-a-bazooka-in-disturbing-propaganda-video-10267322.html. It's a good thing to point out to other editors since it's often confused by some media outlets but it's not reliable information. Regards Kewin — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz ( talk • contribs) 21:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
title=
field should always be the exact title given in the source (I recommend copy & paste to avoid typos) rather than your personal description of what the source is or says. Also be careful when replacing one source with another that you don't leave behind stray information that isn't correct for the new source, such as publication dates.Hi GrammarFacist, the media refered to initially in "Media coverage of Muhaxheri in 2014 and beyond" is in general about the publication of Lavdrim Muhaxheri.
The Independent and the others who wrote about the RPG video do not mention Lavdrim Muhaxheri. Here's the part about the verification of the RPG video which they state hasn't been independently verified, meaning it's uncensored; "The shocking footage, which has not been independently verified, was reportedly filmed in Syria’s eastern province of Deir Ezzor on Wednesday." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-purportedly-executes-man-with-a-bazooka-in-disturbing-propaganda-video-10267322.html
Regarding the article about it, article that I changed reference to had a description of the content was an actual article so why not keep it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz ( talk • contribs) 00:55, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi GrammarFacist, the Liveleak post that you're referring to is a post that I wrote, (Liam00 is my user account on Liveleak). This is what I wrote "The video doesn't show images of the subjects face after the attack since he's faced down on the ground". As I see the citation, either the "citation needed" tag or "not in citation" tag could be used with or without the reference since it refers to the part in the article where it states that a part in the video is "cut out", which isn't stated in that Liveleak post.
I've emailed the Independent about it and they replied to my email on the 26th may 2015 with the following;"as the article states this video and the details contained within it have not been independently verified". Regarding the term "uncensored"; Not examined, expurgated, or given a rating for inclusion of improper or inappropriate material: received uncensored correspondence from a theater of military operations; sells uncensored movies and novels." Alternatively "uncensored" could be changed to "not independently verified" or "independently unverified video and content" Liveleak Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=820_1432489194#El8dOXaD3buKGO2b.99 — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz ( talk • contribs) 09:08, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi GrammarFacist, I saw that you mentioned me in Archive 3, not sure which post? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KewinRozz ( talk • contribs) 12:52, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, read the reference article about Camp Bondsteel and other information about NATO/ KFOR's establishment and purpose of Camp Bondsteel. talk KewinRozz ( talk) 12:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC) Hi Zoupan, how can he be pseudonymed "Lavdrim Muhaxheri" when it is his name? The video is of Lavdrim.' They don't know if it's him for sure, read Parzsuck where they discuss the video [11]. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 17:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
begin at the newly opened camp bondsteel KewinRozz ( talk) 18:27, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, the same information about the jihadi fighters is written in 'From NATO to Islamic State (IS)' KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 20:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Zoupan, there's no citation needed in Early Life, it's already stated in article ref number 9 KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 21:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Zoupan, the reason why I edited it is because you wrote that he fought in Syria, read the part about the prosecution under Activity in ISIS, the prosecution claim that he didn't fight in Syria and this was published last friday. At least not what they mention, they claim that he didn'f fight with the others who are indicted and who he was with. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 21:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC) Further, the Rexhepi part in 'From NATO to Islamic State (IS)' is a response to the videos so it should be directly after that part which is why I moved it there. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 22:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
As the prosecution have indicted imams and other members as responsible for the group that Muhaxheri was involved with in 2012-2013 Syria I've now edited the intro sentence and removed 'leader' in accordance with the latest articles, see ref number 18. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 09:37, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi TU-nor, which subcategory is 'People of the Syrian Civil War' part of? KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 10:32, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't have much time to devote to it at the moment, but this article is rife with blatant original research and WP:SYNTH. Examples: "...which makes it more plausible to assume that the footage would be from Iraq but it could also be from elsewhere...", "...Thus the photo only shows parts of the head from the side and in absence of greater portions of the face, heavily covered in a substance that, by some, has been assumed to be blood." It's not Wikipedia's job to speculate. Material in Wikipedia should be directly linked to what is stated in reliable sources, period. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:51, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Ohnoitsjamie' The footage is unverified thus written about in the referenced articles. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 17:30, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
On 6 September 2014 it became public known that a Kosova prosecutor had been granted an international warrant at the Court of Ferizaj for Muhaxheri's arrest, entailing an international warrant for Muhaxheri at Interpol, for his affiliation with terrorist organisations. [1]. The prosecution had obtained text message conversations claimed to be sent and received between the period 12 August 2015 to 5 Oktober 2013 by Lavdrim Muhaxheri and other individuals who have traveled to Syria by crossing the border between the Hatay Province in Turkey and Syria. Muhaxheri was believed to have traveled to Syria at two(2) occasions between 2012-2013. The first time was between period 2012 to May 2013, wherefrom he returned to Kosova wounded. The second time was sometime after May 2013 and Muhaxheri left Syria to Kosova on 4 October 2013, based on a text message. According to the prosecution's indictment Muhaxheri had received text messages with telephone numbers of people who either had been or were to be recruited to join IS in Syria. According to the prosecution Muhaxheri had not engaged in fighting in Syria with the other indicted individuals.' KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 16:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC) References
- it's article ref number 19, 'As he returned wounded...', it's there now again KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 15:32, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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KewinRozz is repeatedly restoring Category:People of the Kosovo War to the article. (Just for the record, the removal by IP2.150. yesterday was mine.) This is clearly nonsense. Even if he worked at Camp Bondsteel at some point, it does not mean that he worked there in 1999, when he was 10 years old. That KFOR employed a 10 year old boy as a translator is just absurd. Unless you can give a source that puts him on the spot in 1999, please refrain from restoring again.
@KewinRozz will also need to learn more about how Wikipedia works. I suggest that they study some Wiki guidelines before they continue their edits. Some recommendations could be WP:Consensus, WP:Edit war, WP:OR, WP:SYNTH and not least WP:Edit summary. As far as I can see, they have never ever used an edit summary. -- T*U ( talk) 14:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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from article tagged to camp bondsteel;
'about Camp Bondsteel and Kosovo war, ref 9,'Construction of the base began immediately after the controversial 78-day, NATO bombing on the former Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War. Camp Bondsteel was established to provide safety and security in the region. In February 2008, Kosovo unilaterally declared itself an independent state from Serbia. '
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'Albanian mujahedin leader in Syria, Lavdrim Muhaxheri worked for American KFOR'in in Kosovo in camp "Bondsteel" in Ferizaj, have announced to his friends Express newspaper in Kacanik',from ref 9 if refs
These sources are just as valid as for the People of Iraq War. I've added these sources in the first section of the talkpage. I'll move the discussion here. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 14:29, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm questioning some of the reverts to versions that are questionable to the header - subjects and some questionable edits to the ref articles User:KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 14:42, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
TU-nor, parts of your version isn't supported and what's stated in the ref articles KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 14:47, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
KewinRozz ( talk) 17:53, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
KewinRozz that means reaching concensus but you didn't attempt to discuss your edits with me prior to changing headlines and content. I'm open for a discussion. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 17:54, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
TU-norto begin with, I'm fine with 'Activities and media reports' but not 'Joining Jihad' because the section isn't motivating 'why' he joined 'jihad', it's about him going from NATO to IS and that's why I see the 'from NATO to Islamic State (IS)' as consistent, what's the objection ?
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I've checked OP & SYNTH, references. I added the bio that was initially published on Muhaxheri for early life. I've merged early life and background. I merged two sections into 'Government reactions'. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 20:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
The difference from the latest synth- issue version are 5 articles that repeat what's already stated. If they are to be re-attached then they need to be referenced correctly. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 16:17, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
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article's in early life which aren't used in that section, 7 and 9. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 16:32, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
WP:Administrators, "Administrators should not use their tools to advantage, or in a content dispute (or article) where they are a party (or significant editor), or where a significant conflict of interest is likely to exist." There are numerous of SYNTH issues for instance, ref for this is 'were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo.' or the Clanging of the Swords 4, what part in 7 and 9 is used in Lavdrim Muhaxheri, a Kosovo Albanian Muslim, was born on 12 March 1989[6] in the town of Kačanik,[7][8][9]? KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 17:29, 25 January 2016 (UTC) First part: 'Lavdrim Muhaxheri, a Kosovo Albanian Muslim, was born on 12 March 1989[6] in the town of Kačanik,[7][8][9] located on the border between Kosovo and Macedonia. He was raised Muslim, living with his father and brothers in the absence of his mother. Muhaxheri grew up during the Kosovo War (1989–99) during which he and his family were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo. He graduated from the Skanderbeg School. His education earned him a position as an English translator in the the American Kosovo Force (KFOR) camp, "Camp Bondsteel"[8] in the city of Ferizaj in southeastern Kosovo. He worked at Camp Bondsteel until 2010, when he was promoted to a North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) training camp in Afghanistan.[10]' [7][8][9] - are irrelevant here. 'Muhaxheri grew up during the Kosovo War (1989–99) during which he and his family were affected by the persecution of ethnic Albanians conducted by the Serbian Slobodan Milošević's regime in Kosovo.- ref missing/ replaced since written English translator is ref article that I added in the bio that you've now removed so this has no ref at the moment, the current articles in this section are not supportive at the moment, so the first bio should be re - added to support it. KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 18:12, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Please use names of refs (publishers, dates, links) and not ref numbers which are fluctuating betweens diffs. This has been made clear to you several times. It is very hard to understand your points. All cleanup that has been made is actually problems that you yourself introduced? --
Zoupan
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Articles often mention both medial reports from 29 July 2014 about Muhahxeri allegedy appearing on beheading footage from Syria [17] and a warrant from Court of Ferizaj and Interpol from the 6 September 2014 in the same articles but they don’t claim that the warrant is issued for the alleged beheading footage [17]; ‘The demand comes from the Basic Court of Ferizaj, which has issued a warrant for Muhaxheri after he is accused of terrorism and organized groups to go to Syria and Iraq’ [17]'. Published court records on 15 January 2016 only mention text messages as evidence for recruitment.[65] The question is about formulation of medial claims in regard to NPOV; avoid stating opinions as facts; shouldn't ‘On 29 July 2014 Muhaxheri uploaded photos to a Facebook page where he is seen beheading an unidentified young man in Syria.’(1/2) (2/3) be stated as 'According to Balkan media, on 29 July 2014 an individual posted two (2) images to a Facebook page under the pseudonym "Lavdrim Muhaxheri" ( it's questioned which published footage is of Muhaxheri [11]) that, to some extent, give the impression of a man having beheaded an unidentified young man.' or something to the effect of a neutral statement where it's mentioned who's claiming it? (1/2) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&diff=prev&oldid=700631550 (2/3) https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&diff=prev&oldid=700798610
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Wow. You really refuse to understand what everyone is explaining to you. I have no intention in continuing any discussion of your personal conclusions.-- Zoupan 18:53, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 19:29, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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On 29 December 2015 Balkan media claimed that Lavdrim Muhaxheri was in Ar-Rutbah in Iraq based on images and information from a post in a twitter - account. The unverified images, which are taken from a newsclip aired by arab media on an unknown date, were posted on the twitter - account on 16 July 2015. In the same article it's claimed that Lavdrim Muhaxheri has been staying in Ar-Rutbah since September 2015, based on information from unnamed sources. [61] Some media outlets claimed that the images disprove reports from 2 December 2015 about Lavdrim Muhaxheri being physically paralyzed in Syria, thus the Ar-Rutbah - images were posted on the twitter - account on 16 July 2015, a date prior to reports about Muhaxheri being paralyzed and in Syria.[62] The same images and claims about Lavdrim Muhaxheri being in Ar-Rutbah in Iraq were reported on 29 January 2015. [63] in this edithttps://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lavdrim_Muhaxheri&oldid=700637976 KewinRozz KewinRozz ( talk) 22:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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What do you think...?--
Zoupan
23:24, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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May I ask why concensus is needed (KewinRozz: "seek consensus again") for moving external links (Interpol profile, video interviews) previously in the article body, used erroneously as references (citations) by KewinRozz himself?-- Zoupan 22:33, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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Isnt he dead or not? -- Marik-modder ( talk) 20:56, 12 March 2016 (UTC)