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reference 12 says, in part: "Clomipramine is undergoing federally required testing to meet Food and Drug Administration requirements before the company can sell the drug in the U.S. Dr. John Greist, the Madison psychiatrist, was authorized to dispense Anafrail, but did not prescribe it for Dann, police said."
The article says that Dann was prescribed the drug by a shrink, but then later refers to it as "an unlicensed drug." Some clarification would be nice. 184.0.94.83 ( talk) 11:08, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 02:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
It seems that this article may be the vulnerable to point of view editing suggesting that Dann's actions were gender-based (directed against men). I have just sourced this article and in doing so have removed evidence which (erroneously) suggests that only men and boys were targetted. As well as information about a 'note' that was misquoted and ascribed to the wrong attempted poisoning in an apparent attempt to strengthen the claim to gender-based violence. Since I can't find any reliable source that views this as an example of gender-based violence, it seems like a case WP:SYNT so let's be careful about this article and be sure to source any information we add! -- Slp1 01:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I can't find any reference to girls or women being attacked by Dann. Can you provide references? As far as I can tell, all of her victims were male, and only men appeared to be targeted. There has been public discussion about this being gender-based (most notably Warren Farrell's book) indicating that it was a sex based attack. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.255.99 ( talk • contribs) 21:54, 15 February 2007
I re-added a cite from Chicago Tribune that included the note to the ATOs. The note is similar to the note reported on by a Toronto paper about juice boxes left for families, but it doesn't make as much sense. I think the CT is more likely to get it right, and they report two notes - the one I added and another one similar to the Toronto paper but left at the Psi Upsilon house, not at some family homes. Below is a portion quoted from the Tribune:
-- csloat 22:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
It would be good to have some more photos for this article, but I can't find suitable public domain examples. If anybody in the area was able to take some pictures of places mentioned that would be great. I was thinking about the exterior Hubbard Woods and Ravinia Elementary in Highland Park as well as Nick Corwin Park, but maybe there are other ideas? Slp1 21:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
As you read through the article, it refers to Laurie's husband (eventual ex-husband) and then to an unnamed ex-boyfriend and his wife. It is not till the bottom of the page that it states these are two separate people, and the wording is a bit unclear. I'm changing the first instance of the ex boyfriend to "An ex-boyfriend" instead of "her ex-boyfriend" to differentiate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maladroitmortal ( talk • contribs) 20:59, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Large quotes repeating Farrell's mistake and commentary are not appropriate as well as being a copyright violation. It is unknown why Farrell did not accurately reflect the sources he quotes in his book, (which I have read) but his error in this matter has been widely noted, including by reliable sources such as the Globe and Mail. The short version about why Dann's actions did not provoke concerns about violence against men was that she did not target men, but rather (apparently) people who disappointed her, which included both genders. A quick read of this article, cited to the two full length books written about the murders should make this clear. There's absolutely no reason why we would repeat Farrell's mistakes and claims at length. -- Slp1 ( talk) 12:38, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
The following sentence makes claims that are hard to verify because of the way the inline citations were placed:
When a series of claims are made, the inline citations need to be placed following the commas of each element of the series, to make clear which citation supports which of the series of claims. I set out to determine which of the citations supports the notion that academics have repeated the errant conclusions. I have no been able to do so, and will not be able until the citations are properly assigned to the claims. Le Prof 71.201.62.200 ( talk) 23:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
The only possible original source for this incorrect information is Farrell (though based on this, Kaye was quoting Fekete who was quoting Farrell) and given that he has admitted his error there is no problem stating this as such.
Per WP:V and in particular WP:WP:SOURCEACCESS articles do not have to be verifiable online. A trip to the library may be required, and in this case is for the Globe and Mail article for many people. In restoring the material, I will add the page numbers for the Fekete book.-- Slp1 ( talk) 21:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
How does that work? It's almost impossible for a revolver to jam, unless it's broken or incorrectly assembled. AnnaGoFast ( talk) 04:52, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
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I deleted an incited claim that school shootings have occurred in the US "since pre-independence", due to lack of a citation. Attempts to verify only found one instance of a mass killing at a school during this period, namely one of the events of the Pontiac War, where a teacher and multiple pupils were clubbed and scalped resulting in death. One website ( https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-united-states) describes this as a school shooting, however a more detailed description of the event ( Enoch Brown School Massacre) does not mention firearms, and does mention clubbing and scalping. OriEri ( talk) 20:43, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
There have been recent edits removing from the list of errors that Farrell made " and alleged that she killed an eight-year old rapist.". The edit summary was "Farrell's claim is that she "justified her murder of an eight-year-old boy by claiming he was a rapist." This is different than saying that she "killed an eight-year old rapist" for reasons that I hope are obvious. As such, he did not allege that she "killed an eight-year old rapist". More importantly, Farrell is correct. She claimed she killed a rapist rather than Corwin (an attempt to justify her act).
It is not obvious to me at all what the problem is.
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reference 12 says, in part: "Clomipramine is undergoing federally required testing to meet Food and Drug Administration requirements before the company can sell the drug in the U.S. Dr. John Greist, the Madison psychiatrist, was authorized to dispense Anafrail, but did not prescribe it for Dann, police said."
The article says that Dann was prescribed the drug by a shrink, but then later refers to it as "an unlicensed drug." Some clarification would be nice. 184.0.94.83 ( talk) 11:08, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 02:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
It seems that this article may be the vulnerable to point of view editing suggesting that Dann's actions were gender-based (directed against men). I have just sourced this article and in doing so have removed evidence which (erroneously) suggests that only men and boys were targetted. As well as information about a 'note' that was misquoted and ascribed to the wrong attempted poisoning in an apparent attempt to strengthen the claim to gender-based violence. Since I can't find any reliable source that views this as an example of gender-based violence, it seems like a case WP:SYNT so let's be careful about this article and be sure to source any information we add! -- Slp1 01:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I can't find any reference to girls or women being attacked by Dann. Can you provide references? As far as I can tell, all of her victims were male, and only men appeared to be targeted. There has been public discussion about this being gender-based (most notably Warren Farrell's book) indicating that it was a sex based attack. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.255.99 ( talk • contribs) 21:54, 15 February 2007
I re-added a cite from Chicago Tribune that included the note to the ATOs. The note is similar to the note reported on by a Toronto paper about juice boxes left for families, but it doesn't make as much sense. I think the CT is more likely to get it right, and they report two notes - the one I added and another one similar to the Toronto paper but left at the Psi Upsilon house, not at some family homes. Below is a portion quoted from the Tribune:
-- csloat 22:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
It would be good to have some more photos for this article, but I can't find suitable public domain examples. If anybody in the area was able to take some pictures of places mentioned that would be great. I was thinking about the exterior Hubbard Woods and Ravinia Elementary in Highland Park as well as Nick Corwin Park, but maybe there are other ideas? Slp1 21:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
As you read through the article, it refers to Laurie's husband (eventual ex-husband) and then to an unnamed ex-boyfriend and his wife. It is not till the bottom of the page that it states these are two separate people, and the wording is a bit unclear. I'm changing the first instance of the ex boyfriend to "An ex-boyfriend" instead of "her ex-boyfriend" to differentiate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maladroitmortal ( talk • contribs) 20:59, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Large quotes repeating Farrell's mistake and commentary are not appropriate as well as being a copyright violation. It is unknown why Farrell did not accurately reflect the sources he quotes in his book, (which I have read) but his error in this matter has been widely noted, including by reliable sources such as the Globe and Mail. The short version about why Dann's actions did not provoke concerns about violence against men was that she did not target men, but rather (apparently) people who disappointed her, which included both genders. A quick read of this article, cited to the two full length books written about the murders should make this clear. There's absolutely no reason why we would repeat Farrell's mistakes and claims at length. -- Slp1 ( talk) 12:38, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
The following sentence makes claims that are hard to verify because of the way the inline citations were placed:
When a series of claims are made, the inline citations need to be placed following the commas of each element of the series, to make clear which citation supports which of the series of claims. I set out to determine which of the citations supports the notion that academics have repeated the errant conclusions. I have no been able to do so, and will not be able until the citations are properly assigned to the claims. Le Prof 71.201.62.200 ( talk) 23:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
The only possible original source for this incorrect information is Farrell (though based on this, Kaye was quoting Fekete who was quoting Farrell) and given that he has admitted his error there is no problem stating this as such.
Per WP:V and in particular WP:WP:SOURCEACCESS articles do not have to be verifiable online. A trip to the library may be required, and in this case is for the Globe and Mail article for many people. In restoring the material, I will add the page numbers for the Fekete book.-- Slp1 ( talk) 21:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
How does that work? It's almost impossible for a revolver to jam, unless it's broken or incorrectly assembled. AnnaGoFast ( talk) 04:52, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
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I deleted an incited claim that school shootings have occurred in the US "since pre-independence", due to lack of a citation. Attempts to verify only found one instance of a mass killing at a school during this period, namely one of the events of the Pontiac War, where a teacher and multiple pupils were clubbed and scalped resulting in death. One website ( https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-united-states) describes this as a school shooting, however a more detailed description of the event ( Enoch Brown School Massacre) does not mention firearms, and does mention clubbing and scalping. OriEri ( talk) 20:43, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
There have been recent edits removing from the list of errors that Farrell made " and alleged that she killed an eight-year old rapist.". The edit summary was "Farrell's claim is that she "justified her murder of an eight-year-old boy by claiming he was a rapist." This is different than saying that she "killed an eight-year old rapist" for reasons that I hope are obvious. As such, he did not allege that she "killed an eight-year old rapist". More importantly, Farrell is correct. She claimed she killed a rapist rather than Corwin (an attempt to justify her act).
It is not obvious to me at all what the problem is.