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Is this original work? -- Zoe
How about adding some material on lathes that produce objects with elliptical and skewed symmetry? They were well known in the 16th century, but do not seem so common now. AK.
I have heard that a lathe is the only machine tool capable of reproducing itself. Does anyone have a source on this? Kd5mdk 06:56, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Let us not forget that a lathe is incapable of casting its own iron base structure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.93.1.252 ( talk) 18:52, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Does anybody know what the difference between a boxway and a guideway lathe is? Would be a useful addition. Thanks.
I've only scanned some of the links, but it seems that most of them (here as well as in the "machining" topic) are a little skewed towards company information, versus independent information resources. Perhaps I can offer a few other links if I get a chance this weekend, but I wanted to point out my initial thought on the article(s).
1) At Last we have sense with lathe centres but the illustration is still incorrectly labeled "a live centre" and not a revolving centre. It might be more useful to add "Revolving centre sometimes incorrectly refered to as a live centre". There are other centres such as female centres.
2) I published an article in "Model Engineer" on how to achieve elliptcal turning on a modern lathe. As per the article, I have never really found a use for this but it is a great way of getting visiting machinists to scream on seeing the action.
3) Lathes do tend to follow the ideas of the manufacturer hence brand name orientated data. How one lathe works may well differ from another.( What frightens me is how quickly I adapt. I do not think how to start or stop. I just do it and then realise that the action is quite new but I did it "on automatic".) Many marks now used by amateurs are no longer made but the life of machine tools can literally be handed from one generation to another. Reading your notes I guess that you do not own or operate amateur machinery. Whilst a world of its own, I also agree that published data could do with a clean up.
Ron Wallman 19 July 2006
2) Elliptical turning can be useful for making pipe flanges e.g. for cylinders; whether this warrants making up an elliptical chuck depends upon whether you like makings tools for their own sake.
Alanb 13:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
What, might I ask, is wrong with the term "live center?" That is what it is commonly called in the US.-- Jburstein 14:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
An editor keeps changing the intro to describe a lathe as a machine tool and a woodworking tool. A machine tool is a general description to describe work performed or aided by a machine instead of hand operations. Doesn’t make any difference if the machine tool is used to perform work on wood or metal. It also doesn’t make a difference if the machine tool is used for making a wooden chair leg via a hand chisel or turbine engine housings using computer controllers, it is still being made via the aid of a machine tool as apposed to hand tools.-- I already forgot 20:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Without getting into a heated debate, I wanted to give my opinion on the machine tool article. In regards to the machine tool opening statement, the operative word is "typically used to fabricate metal components...", which I think is an undisputed statement even though no source is provided. The problem I have found in the manufacturing section of wikipedia is that the terms and processes vary depending on which part of the world you come from. In the part of the world I reside, we have basic categories to describe the kind of tool used when manufacturing industrial parts or to build a flat. Here is a list:
Depending on which part of the world you're from, the interpretations will most likely vary. The above seems like a logical categorization though, especially with the ambiguous use of machine tool to describe a lathe. Also, all of the above devices do not distinguish between what type of material is going to be cut but we can determine which tool is typically used for a certain type of material.
We could look into every ambigous tool category and find an obscure tool to cross reference between categories but I'm only talking the basics.-- I already forgot 00:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I consider myself a craftsman in wood working and metal working but I may be speaking from POV as I have been formally trained in the field of manufacturing. So instead of speaking from my pov I will look for any type of ref for machine tool and wood working. I wont make any edits on the subject with the hopes that the editor can use the references to form a logical edit.
-- I already forgot 01:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree that there should be more coverage on woodworking as well. -- I already forgot 01:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps no one has taken the liberty of reading the paragraph immediately following the introduction. It mentions woodworking, metalworking, glassworking, and metalspinning. So, is there a particular reason for mentioning woodworking twice, or moving woodworking up from the other areas where lathes are used? I really, truly believe this is an inane thing to include or even argue over. It's already got a section that one can expand, and it's already represeneted in the beginning section of the article. Since the tool is so versatile, the introduction is an absurd place to mention any kind of specific task aside from the fact it's a machine tool. This includes metalworking, despite the predomanant and overwhelming use of the lathe as a metalworking tool compared to other areas. The lathe article was clearly written by people who are machinists or involved in industry, so I invite anyone with knowledge of woodturning lathes to expand the already included woodturning lathe section, instead of making the introduction redundant and disorganized. I will refrain from further commenting or editing on this. Whatever you people decide works. -
Toastydeath 05:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
This page is badly in need of pictures, lists, and descriptions of tools. Should I make a summary and create a different page for that? If I put them on this page, where would I put them? Please note that I am only familiar with the woodworking lathe, and thus would appreciate help and attention from others.
EDIT: I did not realize that there is also a woodturning page.
A page has been opened for micro lathes. Could interested editors please contribute. Thank you. -- Sparkzilla talk! 10:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a revert war over the lathe image, spurred by this thread from an internet forum. Since some people are understandably passionate about using the image of a lathe in a living room, and since the image is an accurate picture of a modern woodworking lathe, I think we should go with the living room image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.117.239.194 ( talk) 20:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Interesting dialog. I think the Lathe King should talk to ELIZA. MrGBug 23:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Agree with User:I already forgot. While an image of a woodworking lathe certainly has a place on wikipedia, it should be representative of wood lathes in general. This includes environment. Also, this includes some sort of minimum image quality. - Toastydeath 04:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Why no mention of recording lathes that create a playable phonograph record or lacquer master? Scully and Neumann made a bunch of them in the 20th century. Here's a photo of a mastering engineer next to a Neumann lathe in 2001. Binksternet ( talk) 21:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Can we/I get a definition of the "swing" of a lathe. I "think" I know what it means, but I would appreciate if someone with more knowledge could explain it. Thanks. Wizard191 ( talk) 03:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I wanted to learn more about the lathes used to make spun instrument strings like those used on guitars and pianos. Many automated lathes exist for mass production and many manual ones are used for restoring old pianos. How are they set-up or used? What makes them different from other lathes? It doesn't cut anything so it's more like a spindle (not mentioned in Wiki's spindle article). It's hard to find good information about them. 65.80.178.227 ( talk) 06:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
May I suggest including a small section on lathe safety? Thanks, Rubik's Maniac ( talk) 05:18, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
This point probably applies to more than the "accessories" section, but there seems to be a lot of redundancy between that section and the "construction" section at lathe (metal). Is there any way we can structure this better as to reduce the redundancy? Wizard191 ( talk) 00:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Isn't a lathe used just for wood? A metal work lathe is called a centre lathe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabregas485 ( talk • contribs) 2011-09-05T11:28:39
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Is this original work? -- Zoe
How about adding some material on lathes that produce objects with elliptical and skewed symmetry? They were well known in the 16th century, but do not seem so common now. AK.
I have heard that a lathe is the only machine tool capable of reproducing itself. Does anyone have a source on this? Kd5mdk 06:56, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Let us not forget that a lathe is incapable of casting its own iron base structure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.93.1.252 ( talk) 18:52, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Does anybody know what the difference between a boxway and a guideway lathe is? Would be a useful addition. Thanks.
I've only scanned some of the links, but it seems that most of them (here as well as in the "machining" topic) are a little skewed towards company information, versus independent information resources. Perhaps I can offer a few other links if I get a chance this weekend, but I wanted to point out my initial thought on the article(s).
1) At Last we have sense with lathe centres but the illustration is still incorrectly labeled "a live centre" and not a revolving centre. It might be more useful to add "Revolving centre sometimes incorrectly refered to as a live centre". There are other centres such as female centres.
2) I published an article in "Model Engineer" on how to achieve elliptcal turning on a modern lathe. As per the article, I have never really found a use for this but it is a great way of getting visiting machinists to scream on seeing the action.
3) Lathes do tend to follow the ideas of the manufacturer hence brand name orientated data. How one lathe works may well differ from another.( What frightens me is how quickly I adapt. I do not think how to start or stop. I just do it and then realise that the action is quite new but I did it "on automatic".) Many marks now used by amateurs are no longer made but the life of machine tools can literally be handed from one generation to another. Reading your notes I guess that you do not own or operate amateur machinery. Whilst a world of its own, I also agree that published data could do with a clean up.
Ron Wallman 19 July 2006
2) Elliptical turning can be useful for making pipe flanges e.g. for cylinders; whether this warrants making up an elliptical chuck depends upon whether you like makings tools for their own sake.
Alanb 13:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
What, might I ask, is wrong with the term "live center?" That is what it is commonly called in the US.-- Jburstein 14:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
An editor keeps changing the intro to describe a lathe as a machine tool and a woodworking tool. A machine tool is a general description to describe work performed or aided by a machine instead of hand operations. Doesn’t make any difference if the machine tool is used to perform work on wood or metal. It also doesn’t make a difference if the machine tool is used for making a wooden chair leg via a hand chisel or turbine engine housings using computer controllers, it is still being made via the aid of a machine tool as apposed to hand tools.-- I already forgot 20:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Without getting into a heated debate, I wanted to give my opinion on the machine tool article. In regards to the machine tool opening statement, the operative word is "typically used to fabricate metal components...", which I think is an undisputed statement even though no source is provided. The problem I have found in the manufacturing section of wikipedia is that the terms and processes vary depending on which part of the world you come from. In the part of the world I reside, we have basic categories to describe the kind of tool used when manufacturing industrial parts or to build a flat. Here is a list:
Depending on which part of the world you're from, the interpretations will most likely vary. The above seems like a logical categorization though, especially with the ambiguous use of machine tool to describe a lathe. Also, all of the above devices do not distinguish between what type of material is going to be cut but we can determine which tool is typically used for a certain type of material.
We could look into every ambigous tool category and find an obscure tool to cross reference between categories but I'm only talking the basics.-- I already forgot 00:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I consider myself a craftsman in wood working and metal working but I may be speaking from POV as I have been formally trained in the field of manufacturing. So instead of speaking from my pov I will look for any type of ref for machine tool and wood working. I wont make any edits on the subject with the hopes that the editor can use the references to form a logical edit.
-- I already forgot 01:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree that there should be more coverage on woodworking as well. -- I already forgot 01:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps no one has taken the liberty of reading the paragraph immediately following the introduction. It mentions woodworking, metalworking, glassworking, and metalspinning. So, is there a particular reason for mentioning woodworking twice, or moving woodworking up from the other areas where lathes are used? I really, truly believe this is an inane thing to include or even argue over. It's already got a section that one can expand, and it's already represeneted in the beginning section of the article. Since the tool is so versatile, the introduction is an absurd place to mention any kind of specific task aside from the fact it's a machine tool. This includes metalworking, despite the predomanant and overwhelming use of the lathe as a metalworking tool compared to other areas. The lathe article was clearly written by people who are machinists or involved in industry, so I invite anyone with knowledge of woodturning lathes to expand the already included woodturning lathe section, instead of making the introduction redundant and disorganized. I will refrain from further commenting or editing on this. Whatever you people decide works. -
Toastydeath 05:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
This page is badly in need of pictures, lists, and descriptions of tools. Should I make a summary and create a different page for that? If I put them on this page, where would I put them? Please note that I am only familiar with the woodworking lathe, and thus would appreciate help and attention from others.
EDIT: I did not realize that there is also a woodturning page.
A page has been opened for micro lathes. Could interested editors please contribute. Thank you. -- Sparkzilla talk! 10:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be a revert war over the lathe image, spurred by this thread from an internet forum. Since some people are understandably passionate about using the image of a lathe in a living room, and since the image is an accurate picture of a modern woodworking lathe, I think we should go with the living room image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.117.239.194 ( talk) 20:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Interesting dialog. I think the Lathe King should talk to ELIZA. MrGBug 23:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Agree with User:I already forgot. While an image of a woodworking lathe certainly has a place on wikipedia, it should be representative of wood lathes in general. This includes environment. Also, this includes some sort of minimum image quality. - Toastydeath 04:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Why no mention of recording lathes that create a playable phonograph record or lacquer master? Scully and Neumann made a bunch of them in the 20th century. Here's a photo of a mastering engineer next to a Neumann lathe in 2001. Binksternet ( talk) 21:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Can we/I get a definition of the "swing" of a lathe. I "think" I know what it means, but I would appreciate if someone with more knowledge could explain it. Thanks. Wizard191 ( talk) 03:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I wanted to learn more about the lathes used to make spun instrument strings like those used on guitars and pianos. Many automated lathes exist for mass production and many manual ones are used for restoring old pianos. How are they set-up or used? What makes them different from other lathes? It doesn't cut anything so it's more like a spindle (not mentioned in Wiki's spindle article). It's hard to find good information about them. 65.80.178.227 ( talk) 06:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
May I suggest including a small section on lathe safety? Thanks, Rubik's Maniac ( talk) 05:18, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
This point probably applies to more than the "accessories" section, but there seems to be a lot of redundancy between that section and the "construction" section at lathe (metal). Is there any way we can structure this better as to reduce the redundancy? Wizard191 ( talk) 00:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Isn't a lathe used just for wood? A metal work lathe is called a centre lathe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabregas485 ( talk • contribs) 2011-09-05T11:28:39
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