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"It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into handedness. (Discuss)"
I support a merge of a lot of this information. Handedness should merge in Right-handed, Cross-dominance, Ambidexterity, and a good chunk of Left-handed. Left-handed has some culture associated with it (e.g. "correlation between committing sexual crimes against children and being left-handed" [1]) so if there's strong feelings those parts could be retained in a separate article, although the article should be renamed to make it clear that its not just simply about left-handedness. Laterality doesn't add much, although it could be expanded -- if it isn't merged it should use "Main article" links. Footedness is mostly about skateboarding, maybe it could be moved to Boarding stance to make that clear. Ewlyahoocom 17:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
The idea of merging all handedness articles together is a bad one. Wikipedia has space requirements and a single article can't do justice to all subjects. Durova 02:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
DO NOT MERGE!
This article shares a fair amount of material with left-handed; I'm not sure where it belongs, but I think it shouldn't be in both. -- pne 10:25, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Definitely not. The term "laterality" is something students of psychology and biology might be looking up. The article should remain seperate and await more contributers who can write about studies concerning left and right hemispheres.
simply have a smaller wiki page for handedness in principle and examples thereof, two of which will be left/right handedness in humans.
What of Ambidexterity? -- FlareNUKE 00:02, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
This article shares a fair bit of material with handedness; I'm not sure where it belongs, but I think it shouldn't be in both. -- pne 10:24, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Left-handedness is definitely long enough to be its own article. Cross dominance and embidexterity also pose a clear merger. The majority of people here seem to oppose the merging of handedness and footedness into Laterality, so I will remove the merge tags. Though ocular dominance has not been discussed, I will assume the same applies. If after a long time handedness, footedness, and ocular doominance are still not expanded, however, it may be wise to merge them here. Avraham 20:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
NO MERGER. if one sees that the main point of an encyclopedia is to distribute information then one must also see that an encyclopedia must make said information easy to find if one accepts those statements as true then one must think "what is someone who wishes to find out about left handedness likely look for it under" i would imagine that you would come to the conclusion that they are most likely to look for it under "left handedness" therefore no merger Unregistered text offender 10:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree, handedness IS a part of laterality, but handedness is more often than not talked about by itself. Handedness is a more obvious difference than laterality. Many people do not think about laterality as a collection of all dominances (or even know what laterality is), but rather talk about the individual dominances by themselves (right-handedness, left-footedness, etc).
If the merge were to occur, I believe there would be a lot of confusion for people who search wikipedia for specifically left/right-handedness. Someone who is new to the idea of laterality would see that they had been led to an article on laterality may be quite confused - I, myself, only just came across the word today, and only because of this discussion.
Just leave it as it is, it will save everyone a lot of confusion, and (as someone else pointed out) it will save the article from becoming an epic saga!
manda 08:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Oppose Merge: First of all this talk page is confusing because it has so many sections for different merges. I oppose all of the merges here because I feel that the articles about each hand are unique and require lengthy articles that would, like this talk page, result in a very confusing and lengthy article. Valley2city 22:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Opposed to Merger: We south-paws feel somewhat discriminated against - dare I say “oppressed”? – and would view a merger as a clear example of the dominant, right-handed, culture imposing its will upon us. Over the top you say? Try cutting all of next years Christmas wrapping with your left hand!-- Larry In Cincinnati 18:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Though handedness is a case of laterality..it is a well know case, which can be linked to laterality instead with a see also quote-- Sathy 13:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way of finding out which ear is dominant? I tried finding out by closing each ear, and making a sound but it didn't work because a result only came out if I did it with both hands, and my right hand probably created a result by supplying more pressure. Any way to tell? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.68.148.253 ( talk) 17:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
1. Sinistra is the female form of the word "siniter, sinistra, sinistrum", but while dexter is cited in its male form, sinister is in its female form, which is - in my opinion - inconsequent. However, since the Latin sinister and the English "sinister" are two different words and don't have exactly the same meaning, I'm not sure whether it was a good idea to change the wording (and since I'm not an English native speaker, I just don't know what to change it into, anyway *g*) 2. I'd change "significant left-handed" into "significantly left-handed", cuz if there was any culture that "is left-handed", it'd be significant in respect to this topic, just by its mere existence. Any opinions? -- FAeR ( talk) 03:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Should we add a section for other laterality characteristics, like these:
1) The Footedness in a board sport, which is not the same as the normal footedness: I am personally goofy on boards, but otherwise kick soccer, skate, and perform all other activities with my dominating right leg.
2) Direction of rotation in Figure skating jumps and spins and in other sports: "Jumps can be performed with either clockwise or counter-clockwise rotation. The vast majority of skaters rotate all their jumps and spins in the same direction; counter-clockwise jumping is more common than clockwise." -- Alefu ( talk) 02:25, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Mention crabs... very asymmetric. Jidanni ( talk) 02:03, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
The article seems very focused on the human handedness aspects of laterality, at the expense of the more general topic of asymmetries, in both human and non-human species. OTOH, the publishers of the journal Laterality [1] indicate that the field covers "the psychological, behavioural and neurological correlates of lateralisation ....(and research that) can illuminate the general problems of the evolution of biological and neural asymmetry, papers on the cultural, linguistic, artistic and social consequences of lateral asymmetry, and papers on its historical origins and development". At present we offer no cites of that journal at all.
I'm tempted to propose a rework effort to refocus this page on a decent treatment of the actual topic in the title. But I don't want to waste much time on it, without decent buy-in (and assistance) from other editors. However, the job does appear to be a bit less daunting than than trying to organize the various handedness pages, given the tatty content and anecdotal crud that historically seems to keep building up there... :-) jxm ( talk) 01:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Wouldn't a better title for this article be "Behavioural laterality"?DrChrissy (talk) 17:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
This might lead to some interesting sources for expanding this article:
"Be Honest, Can You Really Tell Left from Right?". 2016-06-15.
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I suggest the following two additions: A. Immediately under the Heading "Birds" add... Laterality in non-human species was first discovered in birds. Fernando Nottebohm [26] showed that singing in songbirds is controlled by one hemisphere and Lesley Rogers discovered that domestic chicks use the right eye and left hemisphere to find grains scattered on a background of pebbles and the left eye and right hemisphere for attack and copulation behaviour [27].
Pigeons also have lateralized brains. They also discriminate grains from pebbles using their right eye and left hemisphere[28].
26 Nottebohm, F. (1971) Neural lateralization of vocal control in a Passerine bird. I. Song. Journal of Experimental Zoology 177, 299-261. 27 Rogers, L.J. and Anson, J.M. (1979) Lateralisation of function in the chicken forebrain. Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behaviour, 10, 679-686. 28 Güntürkün, O. (1993) The ontogeny of visual lateralization in pigeons. German Journal of Psychology, 17, 276-287.
B Please add immediately under the heading "Invertebrates" Laterality is present in social bees. Honeybees (Apis mellifera), for example, can learn and remember odours associated with a food reward (sugar) only when using their right antenna but after 6 hours they remember this only when using their left antenna [36].
36. Rogers, L.J. and Vallortigara, G. (2008) From antenna to antenna: Lateral shift of olfactory memory recall by honeybees. PLoS ONE 3 (6), e2340.
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"It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into handedness. (Discuss)"
I support a merge of a lot of this information. Handedness should merge in Right-handed, Cross-dominance, Ambidexterity, and a good chunk of Left-handed. Left-handed has some culture associated with it (e.g. "correlation between committing sexual crimes against children and being left-handed" [1]) so if there's strong feelings those parts could be retained in a separate article, although the article should be renamed to make it clear that its not just simply about left-handedness. Laterality doesn't add much, although it could be expanded -- if it isn't merged it should use "Main article" links. Footedness is mostly about skateboarding, maybe it could be moved to Boarding stance to make that clear. Ewlyahoocom 17:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
The idea of merging all handedness articles together is a bad one. Wikipedia has space requirements and a single article can't do justice to all subjects. Durova 02:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
DO NOT MERGE!
This article shares a fair amount of material with left-handed; I'm not sure where it belongs, but I think it shouldn't be in both. -- pne 10:25, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Definitely not. The term "laterality" is something students of psychology and biology might be looking up. The article should remain seperate and await more contributers who can write about studies concerning left and right hemispheres.
simply have a smaller wiki page for handedness in principle and examples thereof, two of which will be left/right handedness in humans.
What of Ambidexterity? -- FlareNUKE 00:02, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
This article shares a fair bit of material with handedness; I'm not sure where it belongs, but I think it shouldn't be in both. -- pne 10:24, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Left-handedness is definitely long enough to be its own article. Cross dominance and embidexterity also pose a clear merger. The majority of people here seem to oppose the merging of handedness and footedness into Laterality, so I will remove the merge tags. Though ocular dominance has not been discussed, I will assume the same applies. If after a long time handedness, footedness, and ocular doominance are still not expanded, however, it may be wise to merge them here. Avraham 20:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
NO MERGER. if one sees that the main point of an encyclopedia is to distribute information then one must also see that an encyclopedia must make said information easy to find if one accepts those statements as true then one must think "what is someone who wishes to find out about left handedness likely look for it under" i would imagine that you would come to the conclusion that they are most likely to look for it under "left handedness" therefore no merger Unregistered text offender 10:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree, handedness IS a part of laterality, but handedness is more often than not talked about by itself. Handedness is a more obvious difference than laterality. Many people do not think about laterality as a collection of all dominances (or even know what laterality is), but rather talk about the individual dominances by themselves (right-handedness, left-footedness, etc).
If the merge were to occur, I believe there would be a lot of confusion for people who search wikipedia for specifically left/right-handedness. Someone who is new to the idea of laterality would see that they had been led to an article on laterality may be quite confused - I, myself, only just came across the word today, and only because of this discussion.
Just leave it as it is, it will save everyone a lot of confusion, and (as someone else pointed out) it will save the article from becoming an epic saga!
manda 08:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Oppose Merge: First of all this talk page is confusing because it has so many sections for different merges. I oppose all of the merges here because I feel that the articles about each hand are unique and require lengthy articles that would, like this talk page, result in a very confusing and lengthy article. Valley2city 22:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Opposed to Merger: We south-paws feel somewhat discriminated against - dare I say “oppressed”? – and would view a merger as a clear example of the dominant, right-handed, culture imposing its will upon us. Over the top you say? Try cutting all of next years Christmas wrapping with your left hand!-- Larry In Cincinnati 18:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Though handedness is a case of laterality..it is a well know case, which can be linked to laterality instead with a see also quote-- Sathy 13:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way of finding out which ear is dominant? I tried finding out by closing each ear, and making a sound but it didn't work because a result only came out if I did it with both hands, and my right hand probably created a result by supplying more pressure. Any way to tell? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.68.148.253 ( talk) 17:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
1. Sinistra is the female form of the word "siniter, sinistra, sinistrum", but while dexter is cited in its male form, sinister is in its female form, which is - in my opinion - inconsequent. However, since the Latin sinister and the English "sinister" are two different words and don't have exactly the same meaning, I'm not sure whether it was a good idea to change the wording (and since I'm not an English native speaker, I just don't know what to change it into, anyway *g*) 2. I'd change "significant left-handed" into "significantly left-handed", cuz if there was any culture that "is left-handed", it'd be significant in respect to this topic, just by its mere existence. Any opinions? -- FAeR ( talk) 03:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Should we add a section for other laterality characteristics, like these:
1) The Footedness in a board sport, which is not the same as the normal footedness: I am personally goofy on boards, but otherwise kick soccer, skate, and perform all other activities with my dominating right leg.
2) Direction of rotation in Figure skating jumps and spins and in other sports: "Jumps can be performed with either clockwise or counter-clockwise rotation. The vast majority of skaters rotate all their jumps and spins in the same direction; counter-clockwise jumping is more common than clockwise." -- Alefu ( talk) 02:25, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Mention crabs... very asymmetric. Jidanni ( talk) 02:03, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
The article seems very focused on the human handedness aspects of laterality, at the expense of the more general topic of asymmetries, in both human and non-human species. OTOH, the publishers of the journal Laterality [1] indicate that the field covers "the psychological, behavioural and neurological correlates of lateralisation ....(and research that) can illuminate the general problems of the evolution of biological and neural asymmetry, papers on the cultural, linguistic, artistic and social consequences of lateral asymmetry, and papers on its historical origins and development". At present we offer no cites of that journal at all.
I'm tempted to propose a rework effort to refocus this page on a decent treatment of the actual topic in the title. But I don't want to waste much time on it, without decent buy-in (and assistance) from other editors. However, the job does appear to be a bit less daunting than than trying to organize the various handedness pages, given the tatty content and anecdotal crud that historically seems to keep building up there... :-) jxm ( talk) 01:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Wouldn't a better title for this article be "Behavioural laterality"?DrChrissy (talk) 17:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
This might lead to some interesting sources for expanding this article:
"Be Honest, Can You Really Tell Left from Right?". 2016-06-15.
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I suggest the following two additions: A. Immediately under the Heading "Birds" add... Laterality in non-human species was first discovered in birds. Fernando Nottebohm [26] showed that singing in songbirds is controlled by one hemisphere and Lesley Rogers discovered that domestic chicks use the right eye and left hemisphere to find grains scattered on a background of pebbles and the left eye and right hemisphere for attack and copulation behaviour [27].
Pigeons also have lateralized brains. They also discriminate grains from pebbles using their right eye and left hemisphere[28].
26 Nottebohm, F. (1971) Neural lateralization of vocal control in a Passerine bird. I. Song. Journal of Experimental Zoology 177, 299-261. 27 Rogers, L.J. and Anson, J.M. (1979) Lateralisation of function in the chicken forebrain. Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behaviour, 10, 679-686. 28 Güntürkün, O. (1993) The ontogeny of visual lateralization in pigeons. German Journal of Psychology, 17, 276-287.
B Please add immediately under the heading "Invertebrates" Laterality is present in social bees. Honeybees (Apis mellifera), for example, can learn and remember odours associated with a food reward (sugar) only when using their right antenna but after 6 hours they remember this only when using their left antenna [36].
36. Rogers, L.J. and Vallortigara, G. (2008) From antenna to antenna: Lateral shift of olfactory memory recall by honeybees. PLoS ONE 3 (6), e2340.
Thanks for your help. Cheers Uddermudder ( talk) 04:08, 30 April 2020 (UTC)