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User:MD Whalen, a contributor to this page, has noted to me that they have a conflict of interest (see this diff), so I have tagged the article and talk page accordingly. Ganesha811 ( talk) 02:22, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
The above statement is incorrect. I have never indicated a conflict of interest. I am acquainted with Mr. Feign. I have no interest, financial or otherwise, in his work. All contributions I have made to this page are carefully composed in a neutral manner, presenting factual information only. If you find anything that appears to be opinionated or editorializing, please point these out. MD Whalen ( talk) 14:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I find nothing inaccurate or biased about any information on this page. However, I have added three necessary references. I believe the issues have been resolved. Billingsgate ( talk) 03:16, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I have no connection with Larry Feign. I'm a retired journalist who worked in Hong Kong. I'm a fan of his cartoon work, that's it. One must be aware that political commentators like Feign are often subject to nuisance attacks, such as disingenuous edits on various profiles (like Wikipedia). Most of my input on his page (mostly done many years ago) has been mainly to substantiate information with references, in order to discourage such nonsense. I'm curious what your connection with him is; you seem quite skeptical about contributions to his page. Considering what I just mentioned, you can see why I question you in return. Billingsgate ( talk) 00:50, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
I just looked through the changes you made to the page, and now I'm really curious about your own involvement. I see that you did a reasonable cleanup. At the same time, you removed the information about his musical group, which was properly referenced. I'm trying to imagine why. You also removed the reference to Rey Chow's article, which is a respected academic analysis of his work which even I cited years ago in a piece about racial stereotypes in media.
I added a couple more references you called for. However, I think it's unreasonable to expect a reference to his primary school activities, which would have been 50+ years ago and not covered in outside media. Surely there is such a thing as trust when it comes to such uncontroversial information. I'm sorry to be so skeptical, but I think the extent to which you have revised this page raises questions. I think it's about time to leave his page alone. Billingsgate ( talk) 01:16, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
OK, I get it. I'm a journalist. My entire career involved fact checking and being fact-checked. At the same time, I think you're being overly zealous, apparently outraged that another contributor seems to have a personal connection (yet nothing he added was at all beyond neutrality in my evaluation). As someone who wrote fact-based articles, profiles, and interviews for a living for decades, I disagree with some of your cuts. Supposedly "trivial" information about a primary school magazine is in fact significant, to establish the very earliest publication of someone who made his career in print. To expect to document this is not reasonable. The reference to his high school band rounds out the profile of a creative artist's development, and is substantiated on the most widely-respected reference to recorded popular music, Discogs.
As to his other awards, I recall one, and will add it (without a reference yet), and don't recall at the moment what the others are, but they are contained in Rey Chow's article. I request that you leave that reference and description, and when I have time and patience I will fill it in with more detail. Billingsgate ( talk) 02:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Peace Billingsgate ( talk) 02:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
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User:MD Whalen, a contributor to this page, has noted to me that they have a conflict of interest (see this diff), so I have tagged the article and talk page accordingly. Ganesha811 ( talk) 02:22, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
The above statement is incorrect. I have never indicated a conflict of interest. I am acquainted with Mr. Feign. I have no interest, financial or otherwise, in his work. All contributions I have made to this page are carefully composed in a neutral manner, presenting factual information only. If you find anything that appears to be opinionated or editorializing, please point these out. MD Whalen ( talk) 14:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
I find nothing inaccurate or biased about any information on this page. However, I have added three necessary references. I believe the issues have been resolved. Billingsgate ( talk) 03:16, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I have no connection with Larry Feign. I'm a retired journalist who worked in Hong Kong. I'm a fan of his cartoon work, that's it. One must be aware that political commentators like Feign are often subject to nuisance attacks, such as disingenuous edits on various profiles (like Wikipedia). Most of my input on his page (mostly done many years ago) has been mainly to substantiate information with references, in order to discourage such nonsense. I'm curious what your connection with him is; you seem quite skeptical about contributions to his page. Considering what I just mentioned, you can see why I question you in return. Billingsgate ( talk) 00:50, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
I just looked through the changes you made to the page, and now I'm really curious about your own involvement. I see that you did a reasonable cleanup. At the same time, you removed the information about his musical group, which was properly referenced. I'm trying to imagine why. You also removed the reference to Rey Chow's article, which is a respected academic analysis of his work which even I cited years ago in a piece about racial stereotypes in media.
I added a couple more references you called for. However, I think it's unreasonable to expect a reference to his primary school activities, which would have been 50+ years ago and not covered in outside media. Surely there is such a thing as trust when it comes to such uncontroversial information. I'm sorry to be so skeptical, but I think the extent to which you have revised this page raises questions. I think it's about time to leave his page alone. Billingsgate ( talk) 01:16, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
OK, I get it. I'm a journalist. My entire career involved fact checking and being fact-checked. At the same time, I think you're being overly zealous, apparently outraged that another contributor seems to have a personal connection (yet nothing he added was at all beyond neutrality in my evaluation). As someone who wrote fact-based articles, profiles, and interviews for a living for decades, I disagree with some of your cuts. Supposedly "trivial" information about a primary school magazine is in fact significant, to establish the very earliest publication of someone who made his career in print. To expect to document this is not reasonable. The reference to his high school band rounds out the profile of a creative artist's development, and is substantiated on the most widely-respected reference to recorded popular music, Discogs.
As to his other awards, I recall one, and will add it (without a reference yet), and don't recall at the moment what the others are, but they are contained in Rey Chow's article. I request that you leave that reference and description, and when I have time and patience I will fill it in with more detail. Billingsgate ( talk) 02:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Peace Billingsgate ( talk) 02:47, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
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