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This is an interesting little article, but I feel a GAN atm is premature due to how short the article is. I'm a bit confused on the separation of this from the Crocker County, Iowa and Bancroft County, Iowa article; they all occupy the same area, are essentially same iterations of the same proposed county split. Wouldn't an article that covers all three of these proposals as one be the best for understanding why Kossuth was never split? Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 23:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
The county lasted from 1870 to 1871, but was deemed "unconstitutional".Is it necessary to link “unconstitutional” to that specific section in the article? I’m less sure about this, but should the period be inside the quotation marks?
If Larrabee County was to be created, it would consist of the north one third of Township 97, all of Townships 98, 99 and 100 north, of ranges 27, 28, 29 and 30 west of the fifth principal meridian in the state of Iowa.GoldRomean ( talk) 14:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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Cos ( X + Z) 23:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Bancroft County's land was merged with Kossuth County, making Kossuth the largest county in Iowa, and made Iowa a state of 99 counties.[2][3][1] mentions this too so, you can triple-confirm this statement.
Not done WP:CITEOVERKILL
being deemed "illegal and unconstitutional."[5][5] doesn't mention this, [4] mentions "unconstitutional" so, remove "illegal and" and add after
After Crocker County was disestablished in 1871, Crocker County's land was merged into Kossuth County.
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The Iowa Supreme Court ruled in the case L.K. Garfield vs R.I. Brayton that Crocker County was a violation of the Iowa constitution,put [1] after comma.
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The name "Larrabee" would honor governor William Larrabee.[6][1] mentions this too.
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The proposal would divide Kossuth County, making the northern part Larrabee County.[1][7] mentions this too.
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The proposal received 920 votes compared to the opposition's 3599 votes; therefore, Larrabee County was not established which meant Iowa remained a state of 99 counties,[1][4] mentions this too.
Not done once is good enough
and Kossuth County remained the largest county in Iowa.[4][3] mentions this too.
Not done once is good enough
Earwig shows a 2.9% which is amazing. Cos ( X + Z) 23:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Done 48JCL ( talk) 23:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Larrabee County was a proposed county in the northern part of Kossuth County, Iowain February 1913.
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It was named after governor William Larrabee.replace "It" with "The County".
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It was preceded by Crocker County until it was disestablished being illegal.replace "It" with "The County" and "it" with "the County".
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A vote was held in Kossuth County in order to see if the county would be established or not. It failed and Kossuth County remained the largest county in Iowa.capitalize "county" and replace "It" with "The Vote".
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@CosXZ done 48JCL ( talk) 16:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
However,the residents of northern Kossuth County sent a delegation to Des Moines to express that they did not want Larrabee County to exist.
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, making Iowaofficiallya state of 100 counties.
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, Bancroft County was eliminated because it was not suitable for settling due to its marshes and wetlandsreplace "eliminated" with "disestablished" and "it" with "the county".
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Bancroft County's land was merged with Kossuth County, making Kossuth the largest County in Iowa,decapitalize "County" in "the largest County".
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, and therefore Iowa was now a state of 99 counties.---> and made Iowa a state of 99 counties.
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It lasted from 1870 to 1871,replace "It" with "The county".
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, being deemed illegal and unconstitutional.---> being deemed "illegal and unconstitutional."
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, which declares in Article 11 that no new county shall be created which contains less than 432 square miles.---> , which declares in Article 11 that "no new county shall be created which contains less than 432 square miles."
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On 22 February 1913,the US doesn't use the day-month-year format.
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On February 22 1913,add a coma after 22.
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The name Larrabee would honor new governor William Larrabee.---> The name "Larrabee" would honor governor William Larrabee.
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The proposal receivedjust920 votes compared to the opposition's 3599 votes;
Done 48JCL ( talk) 19:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
SL93
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02:52, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
48JCL ( talk) 11:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC).
@ 48JCL: I took a look at the article again, as you requested. I wrote this a few days ago, but since you didn't specify where you want it, I'll put it here, if that's alright with you and the WP guidelines.
Okay, I have a few more suggestions. Apologies for my extensive use of the talk quotes template.
In November 1914, the Iowans of Kossuth County voted against the creation of Larrabee County. The county was preceded by Crocker County until it was disestablished being illegal. A referendum was held in Kossuth County in order to propose the existence of Larrabee County. The proposal failed and Kossuth County remained the largest county in Iowa.
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making Iowa a state of X countiesis repetitive.
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On February 22, 1913, Larrabee County was proposed by James McHose, an Iowa congressman from Boone, Iowa.Change to “the creation of Larrabee County was proposed…” or something like that?
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If Larrabee County was to be created, it would consist of the north one third of Township 97, all of Townships 98, 99 and 100 north, of ranges 27, 28, 29 and 30 west of the fifth principal meridian in the state of Iowa.Excuse my lack of related knowledge, but I’m still a little confused by this. What is
township 100 north, a
range, and
30 west of the fifth principal meridian in the state of Iowa?
Townshipin sentence above and change
one thirdto “one-third”.
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Portrait of William Larrabee, who the county was to be named after.Change to “Portrait of William Larrabee, after whom the county was to be named.”
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Not done If I delete, then the SFN tags will be deleted, breaking the page.
Not done they were not exactly the same, BUT I’ll try to make a new map.
Partly done removed 1 incident of the word, however the other two are necessary. 1 for the lead being summary style, and 2 for an explanation. This is just overall, I haven’t really looked at sourcing or smaller details. Looking at the FA criteria (as I think the A-class one varies depending on the WikiProject and the overall one isn’t very specific):
Really, this is a pretty good article. If this passed A-class though, you would likely nominate it for FA. I’m a little worried about notability and length right now, however. There’s not that many sources discussing this right now, and if this became a FA, it would be one of, if not the shortest FAs on Wikipedia.
I suggest requesting a copy-edit from the Guild of Copy-Editors sometime after you make these edits. I might have more ideas later, depending on what the article looks like.
If I’m not wrong, for A-class, you have to nominate through a WikiProject? So either WP History or WP United States. Let me know if/when/where you nominate. Sorry for making this ridiculously long. Cheers, GoldRomean ( talk) 22:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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This is an interesting little article, but I feel a GAN atm is premature due to how short the article is. I'm a bit confused on the separation of this from the Crocker County, Iowa and Bancroft County, Iowa article; they all occupy the same area, are essentially same iterations of the same proposed county split. Wouldn't an article that covers all three of these proposals as one be the best for understanding why Kossuth was never split? Generalissima ( talk) (it/she) 23:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
The county lasted from 1870 to 1871, but was deemed "unconstitutional".Is it necessary to link “unconstitutional” to that specific section in the article? I’m less sure about this, but should the period be inside the quotation marks?
If Larrabee County was to be created, it would consist of the north one third of Township 97, all of Townships 98, 99 and 100 north, of ranges 27, 28, 29 and 30 west of the fifth principal meridian in the state of Iowa.GoldRomean ( talk) 14:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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Reviewer: CosXZ ( talk · contribs) 23:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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Cos ( X + Z) 23:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Bancroft County's land was merged with Kossuth County, making Kossuth the largest county in Iowa, and made Iowa a state of 99 counties.[2][3][1] mentions this too so, you can triple-confirm this statement.
Not done WP:CITEOVERKILL
being deemed "illegal and unconstitutional."[5][5] doesn't mention this, [4] mentions "unconstitutional" so, remove "illegal and" and add after
After Crocker County was disestablished in 1871, Crocker County's land was merged into Kossuth County.
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The Iowa Supreme Court ruled in the case L.K. Garfield vs R.I. Brayton that Crocker County was a violation of the Iowa constitution,put [1] after comma.
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The name "Larrabee" would honor governor William Larrabee.[6][1] mentions this too.
Not done WP:CITEOVERKILL Done
The proposal would divide Kossuth County, making the northern part Larrabee County.[1][7] mentions this too.
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The proposal received 920 votes compared to the opposition's 3599 votes; therefore, Larrabee County was not established which meant Iowa remained a state of 99 counties,[1][4] mentions this too.
Not done once is good enough
and Kossuth County remained the largest county in Iowa.[4][3] mentions this too.
Not done once is good enough
Earwig shows a 2.9% which is amazing. Cos ( X + Z) 23:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Done 48JCL ( talk) 23:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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Larrabee County was a proposed county in the northern part of Kossuth County, Iowain February 1913.
Done
It was named after governor William Larrabee.replace "It" with "The County".
Done
It was preceded by Crocker County until it was disestablished being illegal.replace "It" with "The County" and "it" with "the County".
Done
A vote was held in Kossuth County in order to see if the county would be established or not. It failed and Kossuth County remained the largest county in Iowa.capitalize "county" and replace "It" with "The Vote".
Done
@CosXZ done 48JCL ( talk) 16:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
However,the residents of northern Kossuth County sent a delegation to Des Moines to express that they did not want Larrabee County to exist.
Done
, making Iowaofficiallya state of 100 counties.
Done
, Bancroft County was eliminated because it was not suitable for settling due to its marshes and wetlandsreplace "eliminated" with "disestablished" and "it" with "the county".
Done
Bancroft County's land was merged with Kossuth County, making Kossuth the largest County in Iowa,decapitalize "County" in "the largest County".
Done
, and therefore Iowa was now a state of 99 counties.---> and made Iowa a state of 99 counties.
Done
It lasted from 1870 to 1871,replace "It" with "The county".
Done
, being deemed illegal and unconstitutional.---> being deemed "illegal and unconstitutional."
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, which declares in Article 11 that no new county shall be created which contains less than 432 square miles.---> , which declares in Article 11 that "no new county shall be created which contains less than 432 square miles."
Done
On 22 February 1913,the US doesn't use the day-month-year format.
Done
On February 22 1913,add a coma after 22.
Done
The name Larrabee would honor new governor William Larrabee.---> The name "Larrabee" would honor governor William Larrabee.
Done
The proposal receivedjust920 votes compared to the opposition's 3599 votes;
Done 48JCL ( talk) 19:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
SL93
talk
02:52, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
48JCL ( talk) 11:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC).
@ 48JCL: I took a look at the article again, as you requested. I wrote this a few days ago, but since you didn't specify where you want it, I'll put it here, if that's alright with you and the WP guidelines.
Okay, I have a few more suggestions. Apologies for my extensive use of the talk quotes template.
In November 1914, the Iowans of Kossuth County voted against the creation of Larrabee County. The county was preceded by Crocker County until it was disestablished being illegal. A referendum was held in Kossuth County in order to propose the existence of Larrabee County. The proposal failed and Kossuth County remained the largest county in Iowa.
Done
making Iowa a state of X countiesis repetitive.
Done
On February 22, 1913, Larrabee County was proposed by James McHose, an Iowa congressman from Boone, Iowa.Change to “the creation of Larrabee County was proposed…” or something like that?
Done
If Larrabee County was to be created, it would consist of the north one third of Township 97, all of Townships 98, 99 and 100 north, of ranges 27, 28, 29 and 30 west of the fifth principal meridian in the state of Iowa.Excuse my lack of related knowledge, but I’m still a little confused by this. What is
township 100 north, a
range, and
30 west of the fifth principal meridian in the state of Iowa?
Townshipin sentence above and change
one thirdto “one-third”.
Done
Portrait of William Larrabee, who the county was to be named after.Change to “Portrait of William Larrabee, after whom the county was to be named.”
Done
Not done If I delete, then the SFN tags will be deleted, breaking the page.
Not done they were not exactly the same, BUT I’ll try to make a new map.
Partly done removed 1 incident of the word, however the other two are necessary. 1 for the lead being summary style, and 2 for an explanation. This is just overall, I haven’t really looked at sourcing or smaller details. Looking at the FA criteria (as I think the A-class one varies depending on the WikiProject and the overall one isn’t very specific):
Really, this is a pretty good article. If this passed A-class though, you would likely nominate it for FA. I’m a little worried about notability and length right now, however. There’s not that many sources discussing this right now, and if this became a FA, it would be one of, if not the shortest FAs on Wikipedia.
I suggest requesting a copy-edit from the Guild of Copy-Editors sometime after you make these edits. I might have more ideas later, depending on what the article looks like.
If I’m not wrong, for A-class, you have to nominate through a WikiProject? So either WP History or WP United States. Let me know if/when/where you nominate. Sorry for making this ridiculously long. Cheers, GoldRomean ( talk) 22:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC)