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KEEP she has proven that by being the all time leader for female contestants she belongs. she has also become the third highest money winner and anyone not wanting her listed in jealous. Ducatigary ( talk) 02:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I too would vote to KEEP. Other Jeopardy! winners have articles: Ken Jennings, Dave Madden, Jerome Vered, Frank Spangenberg, Eddie Timanus, maybe a dozen others. (Where is the article on Chuck Forrest?) Larissa Kelly is at least as deserving as the lesser of those luminaries. I wouldn't want to clutter up Wikipedia with an entry for every 5-time winner, but I think Kelly stands out above the crowd, and not only because she is a woman. Patzer42 ( talk) 17:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Guys, just so you know, I've moved your comment to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Larissa Kelly. That's the place for them, not here. Croctotheface ( talk) 18:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't detail anything important about the subject of this biography. Although I see references to "find reliable/secondary sources" in the edit summaries, I'd still be opposed if there did exist such sources, as this content is trivial and does not deserve any weight in the article. Croctotheface ( talk) 22:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Well I think that's BS that you can say there are no reliable sources to back it up. It did happen, and you can cite the TV show; it doesn't have to come from being repeated in the news. I see no reason why it can't be included, and we don't have to ignore it just because it's a self-reference to us. The article is not long, and a sentence mentioning it doesn't hurt. Reywas92 Talk 18:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Since her only notability is her status as a Jeopardy! contestant, it stands to reason whatever she says about herself on the show is worth mentioning. If she had said she was in the Peace Corps for two years, I'm sure that would be included here. It seems the objection is solely because the reference was Wikipedia. 209.247.22.164 ( talk) 04:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
As mentioned on Jeopardy, Larissa has written a science fiction story: http://www.strangehorizons.com/2008/20081222/engines-f.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.4.225.55 ( talk) 03:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Since Kelly's only claim to fame is her status as a Jeopardy! champion, I think anything about her appearance on the show is worth mentioning, so I added the subject matter of the question she missed in the Final Jeopardy! round of the championship. 67.79.157.50 ( talk) 13:42, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Also, the article said, "She won an additional $100,000 for finishing second". This makes it sound like she kept the winnings from the two earlier games in the championship, which isn't the case, so I removed additional from the sentence. If additional is supposed to mean in addition to what she won the first time she was on, then the sentence should read "Kelly added to her previous Jeopardy! winnings by receiving $100,000 for placing second" which makes it very clear. 67.79.157.50 ( talk) 13:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
There is NO logical reason why the Final Jeopardy! question she failed to answer, causing her to lose the championship, should not be mentioned. I don't understand why some people think they own this article and can control its content. 67.79.157.50 ( talk) 14:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Croctotheface says "We link to her j-archive profile, and readers can get that same kind of information there." Why should a reader have to go to a different Wikipedia section to find out information that can be found here? I agree with 209.247.22.164 that the question she missed is a lot more important than the trivia about her sister. 172.130.75.156 ( talk) 13:34, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I see absolutely no reason why this information should not be included in the article. I'm not sure I like the wording "failing to identify", but this is perfectly useful information. Ken Jennings has info about the final that he missed. This is a very short article so we do not need to be trimming anything. Reywas92 Talk 14:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
This is not a long article. This discussion is longer than the article! There is no need to be trimming down excess information yet. Maybe we should give more information regarding her other Final Jeopardy performances. In other articles maybe it would be, but at this point possibly too detailed info is, in my opinion, not hurting the article. Reywas92 Talk 22:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
The statement "Her sister Arianna was defeated in her initial Jeopardy! appearance, in part due to questionable calls that prompted Standards and Practices to bring her back for a second appearance" has been included in this article for a long time, so it appears there are those who feel this information is relevant. What I find frustrating is the fact the "questionable calls" are not identified. Now I'm sure there are some people who will argue this article is about Larissa, not Arianna, and additional explanation about these "questionable calls" would be out of place here. If that's the case, then I think any mention of Arianna should be deleted or at least modified so that readers aren't given half the story. This is the opinion of a reader, not an editor, and yes, there is a difference. Editors get caught up with all the rules and regulations and guidelines and tend to forget that average readers use Wikipedia as a resource, and if they're given some of the facts but not all of them, it's not doing its job. Until I read this article I didn't know Larissa had a sister who had appeared on the show before her. As long as the article is giving me that information, I think it should do it as completely as possible. 209.247.22.164 ( talk) 16:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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Larissa Kelly attended the Williams elementary school. A harbinger of her Jeopardy success was her outstanding performance in the Geography Bee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walter.bender ( talk • contribs) 00:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Matea Roach is on her 15th time, as of 04/ 28/ 2022... Can't recall her $$$ Winings. Hope she stays !!! Like her personality as well!!! A smart Canadien lady!!! 2600:1700:C3A0:F40:2DF9:7AE6:437C:B974 ( talk) 15:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
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KEEP she has proven that by being the all time leader for female contestants she belongs. she has also become the third highest money winner and anyone not wanting her listed in jealous. Ducatigary ( talk) 02:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I too would vote to KEEP. Other Jeopardy! winners have articles: Ken Jennings, Dave Madden, Jerome Vered, Frank Spangenberg, Eddie Timanus, maybe a dozen others. (Where is the article on Chuck Forrest?) Larissa Kelly is at least as deserving as the lesser of those luminaries. I wouldn't want to clutter up Wikipedia with an entry for every 5-time winner, but I think Kelly stands out above the crowd, and not only because she is a woman. Patzer42 ( talk) 17:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Guys, just so you know, I've moved your comment to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Larissa Kelly. That's the place for them, not here. Croctotheface ( talk) 18:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't detail anything important about the subject of this biography. Although I see references to "find reliable/secondary sources" in the edit summaries, I'd still be opposed if there did exist such sources, as this content is trivial and does not deserve any weight in the article. Croctotheface ( talk) 22:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Well I think that's BS that you can say there are no reliable sources to back it up. It did happen, and you can cite the TV show; it doesn't have to come from being repeated in the news. I see no reason why it can't be included, and we don't have to ignore it just because it's a self-reference to us. The article is not long, and a sentence mentioning it doesn't hurt. Reywas92 Talk 18:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Since her only notability is her status as a Jeopardy! contestant, it stands to reason whatever she says about herself on the show is worth mentioning. If she had said she was in the Peace Corps for two years, I'm sure that would be included here. It seems the objection is solely because the reference was Wikipedia. 209.247.22.164 ( talk) 04:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
As mentioned on Jeopardy, Larissa has written a science fiction story: http://www.strangehorizons.com/2008/20081222/engines-f.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.4.225.55 ( talk) 03:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Since Kelly's only claim to fame is her status as a Jeopardy! champion, I think anything about her appearance on the show is worth mentioning, so I added the subject matter of the question she missed in the Final Jeopardy! round of the championship. 67.79.157.50 ( talk) 13:42, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Also, the article said, "She won an additional $100,000 for finishing second". This makes it sound like she kept the winnings from the two earlier games in the championship, which isn't the case, so I removed additional from the sentence. If additional is supposed to mean in addition to what she won the first time she was on, then the sentence should read "Kelly added to her previous Jeopardy! winnings by receiving $100,000 for placing second" which makes it very clear. 67.79.157.50 ( talk) 13:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
There is NO logical reason why the Final Jeopardy! question she failed to answer, causing her to lose the championship, should not be mentioned. I don't understand why some people think they own this article and can control its content. 67.79.157.50 ( talk) 14:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Croctotheface says "We link to her j-archive profile, and readers can get that same kind of information there." Why should a reader have to go to a different Wikipedia section to find out information that can be found here? I agree with 209.247.22.164 that the question she missed is a lot more important than the trivia about her sister. 172.130.75.156 ( talk) 13:34, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I see absolutely no reason why this information should not be included in the article. I'm not sure I like the wording "failing to identify", but this is perfectly useful information. Ken Jennings has info about the final that he missed. This is a very short article so we do not need to be trimming anything. Reywas92 Talk 14:52, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
This is not a long article. This discussion is longer than the article! There is no need to be trimming down excess information yet. Maybe we should give more information regarding her other Final Jeopardy performances. In other articles maybe it would be, but at this point possibly too detailed info is, in my opinion, not hurting the article. Reywas92 Talk 22:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
The statement "Her sister Arianna was defeated in her initial Jeopardy! appearance, in part due to questionable calls that prompted Standards and Practices to bring her back for a second appearance" has been included in this article for a long time, so it appears there are those who feel this information is relevant. What I find frustrating is the fact the "questionable calls" are not identified. Now I'm sure there are some people who will argue this article is about Larissa, not Arianna, and additional explanation about these "questionable calls" would be out of place here. If that's the case, then I think any mention of Arianna should be deleted or at least modified so that readers aren't given half the story. This is the opinion of a reader, not an editor, and yes, there is a difference. Editors get caught up with all the rules and regulations and guidelines and tend to forget that average readers use Wikipedia as a resource, and if they're given some of the facts but not all of them, it's not doing its job. Until I read this article I didn't know Larissa had a sister who had appeared on the show before her. As long as the article is giving me that information, I think it should do it as completely as possible. 209.247.22.164 ( talk) 16:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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Larissa Kelly attended the Williams elementary school. A harbinger of her Jeopardy success was her outstanding performance in the Geography Bee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walter.bender ( talk • contribs) 00:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Matea Roach is on her 15th time, as of 04/ 28/ 2022... Can't recall her $$$ Winings. Hope she stays !!! Like her personality as well!!! A smart Canadien lady!!! 2600:1700:C3A0:F40:2DF9:7AE6:437C:B974 ( talk) 15:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)