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Really can't find a real picture of this rat on the web, one month after its discovery. A tribute to the science or to the copyright ?
One is now on the news article from the NHM, London.
"The genus name for this animal, Laonastes, means "inhabitant of stone". Is it surely not "inhabitant of Laos"? -- Wetman 01:49, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Any Pics? Also I hope this wouldn't be one of those genetically altered animals.
Shouldn't it be at Laotian rock rat? (not capitalized?) Dave (talk)
I removed two links that require registration in order to read. If somebody wants to put them in the References section that would also be good. I don't have the articles to do it myself.
Liblamb 21:15, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've moved the zoo-talk link here to the discussion page, as the destination seems to no longer exist. With a quick browse of their on-site search engine, I didn't find a new link location.
I'm not well-versed in Wikipedia consensus/policy, but following the sentiment of the previous comment, the first news link is to the NY Times, (sometimes?) requiring registration to read. DamienJR 18:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I question this sentence, at least as written.
The most recent incident prior to the discovery of the Laotian Rock Rat by western science was the discovery of the Bumblebee Bat (Craseonycteris thonglongyai; family Craseonycteridae) in 1974.
Muntiacus putaoensis This article calls it a 'bovid'. I think 'cervid' is meant.
Pseudoryx nghetinhensis This one really is a bovid.-- FourthAve 09:15, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't see the fair use justification for using that drawing. This is not an article which discusses the drawing. As far as I can see, we're just stealing someone else's work. Mark your words 13:36, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I'dlike to see the precise words from which the genus name was derived. Circeus 18:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
'Laonastes, means "inhabitant of stone" (from Greek λαος = laos = stone and ναστης = nastes = inhabitant)' is wrong. Greek λαος(laos) means people not stone, whereas ναστης(nastes) means inhabitant derived from the verb ναιω = I inhabit, I reside. So, Laonastes actually means inhabitant of Laos. 'aenigmamus means "enigma mouse" (from Greek αινγμα = ænigma and μυς = mus, "mouse")' is correct. Astrofos 08:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if anyone is studying the molecular phylogenetics of the Laotian rock rat? I'm surprised it's taken this long Nil Einne 18:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
"In 2006 the classification of the Laotian rock rat was refuted by Mary Dawson et al." - POV? See Wiktionary on refute: "The accepted meaning of this word is "to prove false". The meaning "to deny" is non-standard and is avoided by careful speakers and writers." Gabriel R 12:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I've deleted the following sentence:
This is the first time that such an old species has been found that had long thought to have been extinct.
Surely the case of the coelacanth invalidates this statement? Jon Rob 13:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
"In this photo provided by Florida State University, a Diatomyidae is seen in Laos in May 2006. The Diatomyidae, or Laotian rock rat, was the first live specimen of its species to be photographed in Doy, a small village in central Laos during an expedition by Florida State University professor David Redfield and Thai biologist Uthai Treesucon. The species once was thought to have been extinct for 11 million years. (AP Photos/Florida State University, Uthai Treesucon)" - AP Press
An excerpt from the article is below. Have fun! RK 23:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone explain what the name kha-nyou means exactly, and in what language (presumably Laotian)? Widsith 10:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Would someone please be more specific as to which statements are challenged and require more references? I actually think the article is fairly well referenced. -- Aranae ( talk) 02:19, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
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I have my own photographs of Laonastes aenigmamus which I would like to donate. I have taken them myself and they have no copyright attached to them. What is the best way I can do this so that they can be used on Wiki? Alanboatman ( talk) 08:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
The local name for Laonastes aenigmamus is "Nou Pha Yu". This litterally means "Storm Rat". This is what the locals in Khammouane Province call it. "Kha Nyou" is not known to be the local name and if it is in places, it is using a perjorative epithet. 'Kha' is a perjorative label for the Khamu ethnic group used by the Lao ethnic group. It has meanings similar to 'slave' and is considered very rude by Khamu people. Hence whoever told the scientists this Lao name were saying Khamu Rat, but the meaning carries implications similar to 'Nigger Rat'. Alanboatman ( talk) 08:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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Really can't find a real picture of this rat on the web, one month after its discovery. A tribute to the science or to the copyright ?
One is now on the news article from the NHM, London.
"The genus name for this animal, Laonastes, means "inhabitant of stone". Is it surely not "inhabitant of Laos"? -- Wetman 01:49, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Any Pics? Also I hope this wouldn't be one of those genetically altered animals.
Shouldn't it be at Laotian rock rat? (not capitalized?) Dave (talk)
I removed two links that require registration in order to read. If somebody wants to put them in the References section that would also be good. I don't have the articles to do it myself.
Liblamb 21:15, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've moved the zoo-talk link here to the discussion page, as the destination seems to no longer exist. With a quick browse of their on-site search engine, I didn't find a new link location.
I'm not well-versed in Wikipedia consensus/policy, but following the sentiment of the previous comment, the first news link is to the NY Times, (sometimes?) requiring registration to read. DamienJR 18:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I question this sentence, at least as written.
The most recent incident prior to the discovery of the Laotian Rock Rat by western science was the discovery of the Bumblebee Bat (Craseonycteris thonglongyai; family Craseonycteridae) in 1974.
Muntiacus putaoensis This article calls it a 'bovid'. I think 'cervid' is meant.
Pseudoryx nghetinhensis This one really is a bovid.-- FourthAve 09:15, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't see the fair use justification for using that drawing. This is not an article which discusses the drawing. As far as I can see, we're just stealing someone else's work. Mark your words 13:36, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I'dlike to see the precise words from which the genus name was derived. Circeus 18:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
'Laonastes, means "inhabitant of stone" (from Greek λαος = laos = stone and ναστης = nastes = inhabitant)' is wrong. Greek λαος(laos) means people not stone, whereas ναστης(nastes) means inhabitant derived from the verb ναιω = I inhabit, I reside. So, Laonastes actually means inhabitant of Laos. 'aenigmamus means "enigma mouse" (from Greek αινγμα = ænigma and μυς = mus, "mouse")' is correct. Astrofos 08:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know if anyone is studying the molecular phylogenetics of the Laotian rock rat? I'm surprised it's taken this long Nil Einne 18:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
"In 2006 the classification of the Laotian rock rat was refuted by Mary Dawson et al." - POV? See Wiktionary on refute: "The accepted meaning of this word is "to prove false". The meaning "to deny" is non-standard and is avoided by careful speakers and writers." Gabriel R 12:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I've deleted the following sentence:
This is the first time that such an old species has been found that had long thought to have been extinct.
Surely the case of the coelacanth invalidates this statement? Jon Rob 13:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
"In this photo provided by Florida State University, a Diatomyidae is seen in Laos in May 2006. The Diatomyidae, or Laotian rock rat, was the first live specimen of its species to be photographed in Doy, a small village in central Laos during an expedition by Florida State University professor David Redfield and Thai biologist Uthai Treesucon. The species once was thought to have been extinct for 11 million years. (AP Photos/Florida State University, Uthai Treesucon)" - AP Press
An excerpt from the article is below. Have fun! RK 23:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone explain what the name kha-nyou means exactly, and in what language (presumably Laotian)? Widsith 10:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Would someone please be more specific as to which statements are challenged and require more references? I actually think the article is fairly well referenced. -- Aranae ( talk) 02:19, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
The image Image:Ratsquriiall.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --05:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
I have my own photographs of Laonastes aenigmamus which I would like to donate. I have taken them myself and they have no copyright attached to them. What is the best way I can do this so that they can be used on Wiki? Alanboatman ( talk) 08:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
The local name for Laonastes aenigmamus is "Nou Pha Yu". This litterally means "Storm Rat". This is what the locals in Khammouane Province call it. "Kha Nyou" is not known to be the local name and if it is in places, it is using a perjorative epithet. 'Kha' is a perjorative label for the Khamu ethnic group used by the Lao ethnic group. It has meanings similar to 'slave' and is considered very rude by Khamu people. Hence whoever told the scientists this Lao name were saying Khamu Rat, but the meaning carries implications similar to 'Nigger Rat'. Alanboatman ( talk) 08:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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