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There are a number of interesting claims about the Spanish and Mexican land grants in New Mexico in the WP article History_of_New_Mexico#Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo. (If the article has changed, look at the 2009-10-29 state of that section.) However, since none of the claims are sourced, I h💖✌✌✌✌✌✌ave not made any of those assertions is the stub I wrote for this article, Spanish land grants in New Mexico. If anyone has sources, we should by all means add them and improve both articles. N2e ( talk) 12:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
The artcle seems to be about land grants in New Mexico in general, I would like to move this page to a title that reflects that. Synchronism ( talk) 03:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
http://law.justia.com/cases/new-mexico/court-of-appeals/1980/4597-4591-2.html shows that the land was managed by Albert J. Black since 1929 and acquired by him in 1941. That should be included with the Albert F. Black information. It helps with subsequent information search. Someone might add to this wikipedia article. I do not know how to do it.
This site http://www.bosqueschool.org/Black_Institute_History.aspx also gives information about the family that might be of interest to the land grant information, here.
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The result of the move request was: MOVED ( non-admin closure) Galobtter ( pingó mió) 06:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Spanish land grants in New Mexico → Land grants in New Mexico – As noted over 8 years ago, this article's scope includes Spanish, Mexican, and US land grants in New Mexico, not just Spanish ones. The lead needs rewriting. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
PS: We actually need an article at Spanish land grants or some such, and a WP:SUMMARY section at Land grant. There used to be a Land grant#Latin America (or similar) section there, but it's gone missing. We seem to have just completely lost almost all our info on Spanish land grants in the Americas, but it's a very significant part of Spanish New World colonial history. (Short version: seize land from indigenous people by force, then have it colonized by Spaniards and New World higher-caste mixed Spanish, by giving the land to families of second and later sons who needed opportunities and somewhere to go, having no inheritance under Spanish primogeniture. It's how New Spain operated.) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
The Mora Land Grant (a.k.a. Mora Grant) is significant enough to mention. It led to the settling of Mora County, New Mexico by Hispanos of the Spanish Empire, later Mexican Republic. This in turn led to the role of Mora, New Mexico, as an insurrection hotbed during the Taos Rebellion of the Mexican–American War, and the First and Second Battle of Mora. Later, the grant was the basis of a protracted legal dispute about Fort Union, which has encroached on private Mora Grant lands. These articles had all been cobbled together piecemeal by random "drive-by" edits; I've spent several hours moving material around between the articles and rewriting to assemble a coherent narrative that fits the articles' actual scopes. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 19:30, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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There are a number of interesting claims about the Spanish and Mexican land grants in New Mexico in the WP article History_of_New_Mexico#Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo. (If the article has changed, look at the 2009-10-29 state of that section.) However, since none of the claims are sourced, I h💖✌✌✌✌✌✌ave not made any of those assertions is the stub I wrote for this article, Spanish land grants in New Mexico. If anyone has sources, we should by all means add them and improve both articles. N2e ( talk) 12:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
The artcle seems to be about land grants in New Mexico in general, I would like to move this page to a title that reflects that. Synchronism ( talk) 03:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
http://law.justia.com/cases/new-mexico/court-of-appeals/1980/4597-4591-2.html shows that the land was managed by Albert J. Black since 1929 and acquired by him in 1941. That should be included with the Albert F. Black information. It helps with subsequent information search. Someone might add to this wikipedia article. I do not know how to do it.
This site http://www.bosqueschool.org/Black_Institute_History.aspx also gives information about the family that might be of interest to the land grant information, here.
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The result of the move request was: MOVED ( non-admin closure) Galobtter ( pingó mió) 06:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Spanish land grants in New Mexico → Land grants in New Mexico – As noted over 8 years ago, this article's scope includes Spanish, Mexican, and US land grants in New Mexico, not just Spanish ones. The lead needs rewriting. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
PS: We actually need an article at Spanish land grants or some such, and a WP:SUMMARY section at Land grant. There used to be a Land grant#Latin America (or similar) section there, but it's gone missing. We seem to have just completely lost almost all our info on Spanish land grants in the Americas, but it's a very significant part of Spanish New World colonial history. (Short version: seize land from indigenous people by force, then have it colonized by Spaniards and New World higher-caste mixed Spanish, by giving the land to families of second and later sons who needed opportunities and somewhere to go, having no inheritance under Spanish primogeniture. It's how New Spain operated.) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 08:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
The Mora Land Grant (a.k.a. Mora Grant) is significant enough to mention. It led to the settling of Mora County, New Mexico by Hispanos of the Spanish Empire, later Mexican Republic. This in turn led to the role of Mora, New Mexico, as an insurrection hotbed during the Taos Rebellion of the Mexican–American War, and the First and Second Battle of Mora. Later, the grant was the basis of a protracted legal dispute about Fort Union, which has encroached on private Mora Grant lands. These articles had all been cobbled together piecemeal by random "drive-by" edits; I've spent several hours moving material around between the articles and rewriting to assemble a coherent narrative that fits the articles' actual scopes. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 19:30, 25 January 2018 (UTC)