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From Talk:Minor Wheel of Time characters:

From Talk:Al'Lan Mandragoran:
He is the uncrowned King of Malkier, Dai Shan, a Diademed Battle Lord of the Malkieri and the last surviving Malkieri lord. One of his titles is Lord of the Seven Towers.
You might want to explain these terms, or link to pages where they are defined. -- Zoe
I don't think some of those terms are even defined in the books. :P DopefishJustin 23:44, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
Some of these terms (or at least where they were) were discussed way back in The Eye of the World and The Great Hunt. Malkier was actually where the Waste is, along the Borderlands, but due to whatever it was that caused the Waste to become the Waste, Malkier was swallowed up. IIRC, the other six Kings of Malkier were killed, leaving al'Lan the sole survivor. I could be wrong about that last part though, so don't hold me to it.

Yeah, that's pretty much it, except submit blight for waste. Waste is where the Aiel live. ^_^ And there is one other survivor, Isam, Lan's cousin, but the others are unaware of his existence. And also Malkier fell to the Blight because Cowin (a Darkfriend) betrayed them. 196.2.56.5 14:34, 19 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Reoganization

This page was not at all coherent, with multiple sections on the same thing, overlapping content, not either chronological or organized by topic, so I rearranged the sections to group things by topic. What's in each section needs to be rewritten to be coherent now. -- zandperl 20:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Fixed As Moiraine's Warder so it is chronological —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.110.33.149 ( talk) 22:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Why does this page exist?

Except for the correct pronunciation of the name, everything in this article is taken from the books. It could easily be condensed to 2 paragraphs and merged into Major Wheel of Time characters. I hate list articles like that, but this character should not rate his own page here. I would expect to see this on a fan site, not Wikipedia. 71.234.215.133 ( talk) 18:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC) reply

Compared to many of the Wheel of Time characters who have their own pages, Lan clearly rates as above Pedron Niall for example, attempting to condense this would loose much information (though as you say, everything is in the books) and as part of a list article (if unedited) would become confusing, better to leave Lan to himself.

Jakerin ( talk) 15:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

The page can be condensed. Most of the pages are crufty. I did not apply for a WikiProject for revamping this series; I just took it upon myself to clean up a good bit of it, fix navigation, gather all pages together and the next step was to start condensing most of the pages. I envision the WoT pages to be akin to the A Song of Ice and Fire pages, only due to Jordan's more expansive publication history, there would be more pages. Pejorative.majeure ( talk) 23:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Death Lighter than a feather...

Why is Lan's feeling that death is lighter than a feather, but duty heavier than a mountain described as contradictory? It isn't. Jakerin ( talk) 15:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

I think the editor of that section saw it as contradictory in the context of Lan intervening on behalf of the Two Rivers boys when they were being forced into something against their will, as in the preceeding sentences. Of course, most of that section is badly written original research anyway... Nutiketaiel ( talk) 13:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Time for a clean up soon then, when I can. No objections to it being edited down? Jakerin ( talk) 18:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Pronunciation of the name

The article contained this bit:

, (pronounced /mændrəˈɡɔrən/ [1])

However, the URL http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/?p=21 now redirects to http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/blog/4-robert-jordans-blog/ . Presumably the link was to one blog post, but what you get now is the entire blog.

If someone can find the particular entry in question, feel free to restore the pronunciation with an updated link as source. -- pne (talk) 14:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC) reply

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From Talk:Minor Wheel of Time characters:

From Talk:Al'Lan Mandragoran:
He is the uncrowned King of Malkier, Dai Shan, a Diademed Battle Lord of the Malkieri and the last surviving Malkieri lord. One of his titles is Lord of the Seven Towers.
You might want to explain these terms, or link to pages where they are defined. -- Zoe
I don't think some of those terms are even defined in the books. :P DopefishJustin 23:44, Apr 23, 2004 (UTC)
Some of these terms (or at least where they were) were discussed way back in The Eye of the World and The Great Hunt. Malkier was actually where the Waste is, along the Borderlands, but due to whatever it was that caused the Waste to become the Waste, Malkier was swallowed up. IIRC, the other six Kings of Malkier were killed, leaving al'Lan the sole survivor. I could be wrong about that last part though, so don't hold me to it.

Yeah, that's pretty much it, except submit blight for waste. Waste is where the Aiel live. ^_^ And there is one other survivor, Isam, Lan's cousin, but the others are unaware of his existence. And also Malkier fell to the Blight because Cowin (a Darkfriend) betrayed them. 196.2.56.5 14:34, 19 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Reoganization

This page was not at all coherent, with multiple sections on the same thing, overlapping content, not either chronological or organized by topic, so I rearranged the sections to group things by topic. What's in each section needs to be rewritten to be coherent now. -- zandperl 20:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Fixed As Moiraine's Warder so it is chronological —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.110.33.149 ( talk) 22:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Why does this page exist?

Except for the correct pronunciation of the name, everything in this article is taken from the books. It could easily be condensed to 2 paragraphs and merged into Major Wheel of Time characters. I hate list articles like that, but this character should not rate his own page here. I would expect to see this on a fan site, not Wikipedia. 71.234.215.133 ( talk) 18:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC) reply

Compared to many of the Wheel of Time characters who have their own pages, Lan clearly rates as above Pedron Niall for example, attempting to condense this would loose much information (though as you say, everything is in the books) and as part of a list article (if unedited) would become confusing, better to leave Lan to himself.

Jakerin ( talk) 15:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

The page can be condensed. Most of the pages are crufty. I did not apply for a WikiProject for revamping this series; I just took it upon myself to clean up a good bit of it, fix navigation, gather all pages together and the next step was to start condensing most of the pages. I envision the WoT pages to be akin to the A Song of Ice and Fire pages, only due to Jordan's more expansive publication history, there would be more pages. Pejorative.majeure ( talk) 23:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Death Lighter than a feather...

Why is Lan's feeling that death is lighter than a feather, but duty heavier than a mountain described as contradictory? It isn't. Jakerin ( talk) 15:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

I think the editor of that section saw it as contradictory in the context of Lan intervening on behalf of the Two Rivers boys when they were being forced into something against their will, as in the preceeding sentences. Of course, most of that section is badly written original research anyway... Nutiketaiel ( talk) 13:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Time for a clean up soon then, when I can. No objections to it being edited down? Jakerin ( talk) 18:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Pronunciation of the name

The article contained this bit:

, (pronounced /mændrəˈɡɔrən/ [1])

However, the URL http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/?p=21 now redirects to http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/blog/4-robert-jordans-blog/ . Presumably the link was to one blog post, but what you get now is the entire blog.

If someone can find the particular entry in question, feel free to restore the pronunciation with an updated link as source. -- pne (talk) 14:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC) reply


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