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user:ssilvers asked why "semi-professional" was removed from the description of the Lamplighters. I can't speak for whoever removed it before, but to me, the term seems like a peacock word (as per WP:PEACOCK). Do they pay their actors? It doesn't say. (Almost all amateur theaters pay their instrumentalists, the question is whether they pay the actors.) In the arts, a " semi-professional" artist is someone who is paid for his or her work, but not enough to make a living at it. It's not clear to me what a "semi-professional theater" would be: A theater that pays all its performers, but not enough for them to live on? A theater that pays a couple of star performers a living wage and relies on unpaid amateurs for the rest of the cast? (Both arrangements are common.)
None of the links justify the term "semi-professional". It really looks to me like the term is used here just because an editor wants to set the group above "amateur" or "community" theater, but isn't able to actually call it "professional". It might rub them the wrong way to have "amateur" put in the opening sentence of the article, so I'd suggest just removing the adjective altogether--as I'm doing. Narsil ( talk) 19:29, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
3O Response: I support the removal of qualifying terms unless a reputable secondary source can be found to use "amateur" or "semi-professional". Or perhaps we could apply
WP:COMMONSENSE and use a more generic term like "minor" (or similar) that doesnt evoke the nuances of the other terms? -
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user:ssilvers asked why "semi-professional" was removed from the description of the Lamplighters. I can't speak for whoever removed it before, but to me, the term seems like a peacock word (as per WP:PEACOCK). Do they pay their actors? It doesn't say. (Almost all amateur theaters pay their instrumentalists, the question is whether they pay the actors.) In the arts, a " semi-professional" artist is someone who is paid for his or her work, but not enough to make a living at it. It's not clear to me what a "semi-professional theater" would be: A theater that pays all its performers, but not enough for them to live on? A theater that pays a couple of star performers a living wage and relies on unpaid amateurs for the rest of the cast? (Both arrangements are common.)
None of the links justify the term "semi-professional". It really looks to me like the term is used here just because an editor wants to set the group above "amateur" or "community" theater, but isn't able to actually call it "professional". It might rub them the wrong way to have "amateur" put in the opening sentence of the article, so I'd suggest just removing the adjective altogether--as I'm doing. Narsil ( talk) 19:29, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
3O Response: I support the removal of qualifying terms unless a reputable secondary source can be found to use "amateur" or "semi-professional". Or perhaps we could apply
WP:COMMONSENSE and use a more generic term like "minor" (or similar) that doesnt evoke the nuances of the other terms? -
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