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1. As Lake Van is in Turkey, the Turkish name of the lake in Turkish should be displayed before any other language. 2. Can anybody explain the relevance of Ottoman-Armenian population, Armenian genocide, or Treaty of Sevres, which are lisred in the "See Also Section", with Lake Van? AldirmaGonul 05:47, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
The Lake deserves better pictures.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/wildworld/profiles/photos/pa/pa0805a.html http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SY8WbeiNaOg/SFAleX5p1hI/AAAAAAAADSU/7y4aTqwyZGI/CIMG1067.JPG http://sacredsites.com/middle_east/turkey/akdamar.htm —Preceding http://www.ramayana.si/Turkey/Akdamar116.jpg unsigned comment added by 72.38.144.241 ( talk) 22:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
A map of its location would be useful too. MikeEagling ( talk) 16:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
I have noticed a contradiction between this article and the article on Kurdistan. This article describes Lake Van as a saline body of water; the Kurdistan article describes Lake Van as a non-saline body of water. Would those of you working on these two articles mind sorting this out? I am posting this observation on the other site's Talk page, also. RNavigator 13:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Lake | Salinity (g/L) |
---|---|
Caspian Sea | 10-12 |
Lake Van | 24 |
Great Salt Lake | 150-280 |
Dead Sea (Israel/Jordan) | over 300 |
I provided them, its good enough. Artaxiad 19:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please transliterate the Armenian name? Meursault2004 12:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Lake Van is a notable lake because it's so deep and is very large for a salt lake. It would be good to be able to list some accurate measurements for the lake, such as depth, area, volume height above sea level, etc. There are quite a number of differing figures for these, so I thought compiling the various sources here might help establish the most reliable figures. Any general comments would be welcome, too. Rupert Clayton 14:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Bold (where used) indicates figures that appear to have most corroboration. Data sources are listed at the end. Rupert Clayton 17:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Overall salinity: 24 g/L [15]
Salt content (just NaCl?): 0.19% [16]
1911 Britannica [8]
Many reports of research around Lake Van in various fields contain basic data on the lake's measurements. Because of this, modern sources in seemingly tangential specialties may have more accurate data than older geological, limnological, and bathymetric sources.
Springer journals [10]
impact in eastern Anatolia: high resolution pollen, charcoal, isotopic, and geochemical records from the laminated sediments of Lake Van, Turkey, The Holocene 2003 in press.
Encyclopedia Britannica online [8]
Columbia Encyclopedia online [7]
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citation}}
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If the water level rises after a railway deviation is built to bypass the Lake Van ferry, that investment would be wasted. How difficult would it to build an outlet tunnel to drain the lake and protect that railway? Tabletop ( talk) 01:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
I added a reference to the pH, but the article still needs a reference about the extraction of economic resources. I'll see what I can find, but someone searching Turkish sources would be useful also. -- KP Botany ( talk) 19:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
http://www.livius.org/va-vh/van/van_lake.html , this name is important because Van, Turkey = Tushpa! (The Greek and Latin languages had no "sh" sound) Böri ( talk) 12:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Does anyone know the name of this peninsula. Google Maps/Earth shows nothing, and I cant find anything while searching online. Reh man 11:51, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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Rupert Clayton: Greek name seems relevant for a major lake that was part of the Byzantine Empire on and off
. Mostly off, that is. As far as I am able to find out, the area was Byzantine from 1021 (when the Armenian kingdom of Vaspurakan was incorporated in the Byzantine Empire) to 1087 (the battle of Manzikert), possibly also for a few years up to the Arab invasion in 640. For most of historic time it has been part of different Armenian states, and it has actually been far longer under Mongolian rule than under Byzantine. I would suggest that the Greek name is undue for the lede per
WP:PLACE. If not, there will be a huge number of places where a Greek name should or could be added. --
T*U (
talk) 09:52, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Why is the Armenian name of the town included? These have been Turkish and Kurdish lands for a thousand years. Articles on Greek islands that were Turkish territory a hundred years ago are not allowing Turkish names to be included! Double standards seem to be at play. Someone explain it logically please. Dominator1071 ( talk) 23:19, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
ZaniGiovanni you are removing the Eastern Anatolia Region wikilink from the stable lead, which was inserted about 7 months ago [11] with no apperant reason. And only reverting when it's readded. Would you care to explain why that information should be removed? DriedGrape ( talk) 07:47, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Edit: I'm pretty sure I'm not sanctioned from talking about Administrative divisions of Turkey– My reply was to your added comment. And I'm not accusing, I'm stating the facts with diffs. If you want the conversation to be solely about this article, then don't add comments of "how sure you are that you aren't breaching your tban". And unfoundedly accusing others of misconduct is what actually constitutes as a personal attack, which you're doing rn. ZaniGiovanni ( talk) 08:48, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
This article incorrectly uses an archaic region name instead of its modern name (Eastern Anatolia v. Armenian Highlands.) WP:MPN explicitly states that modern place names should be used instead of historical names. The previous arguments on this talk page fail to establish why "Armenian Highlands" is modern usage instead of "Eastern Anatolia." If the users who resist to use the modern place name decline to provide arguments on this respect in due time, I will modify the article accordingly. 95.12.124.115 ( talk) 09:15, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Show the perfect reason 144.48.225.2 ( talk) 15:21, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Vartolu3566 ( talk) 15:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Why does History segment end so abruptly? 94.252.122.86 ( talk) 22:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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1. As Lake Van is in Turkey, the Turkish name of the lake in Turkish should be displayed before any other language. 2. Can anybody explain the relevance of Ottoman-Armenian population, Armenian genocide, or Treaty of Sevres, which are lisred in the "See Also Section", with Lake Van? AldirmaGonul 05:47, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
The Lake deserves better pictures.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/wildworld/profiles/photos/pa/pa0805a.html http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SY8WbeiNaOg/SFAleX5p1hI/AAAAAAAADSU/7y4aTqwyZGI/CIMG1067.JPG http://sacredsites.com/middle_east/turkey/akdamar.htm —Preceding http://www.ramayana.si/Turkey/Akdamar116.jpg unsigned comment added by 72.38.144.241 ( talk) 22:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
A map of its location would be useful too. MikeEagling ( talk) 16:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
I have noticed a contradiction between this article and the article on Kurdistan. This article describes Lake Van as a saline body of water; the Kurdistan article describes Lake Van as a non-saline body of water. Would those of you working on these two articles mind sorting this out? I am posting this observation on the other site's Talk page, also. RNavigator 13:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Lake | Salinity (g/L) |
---|---|
Caspian Sea | 10-12 |
Lake Van | 24 |
Great Salt Lake | 150-280 |
Dead Sea (Israel/Jordan) | over 300 |
I provided them, its good enough. Artaxiad 19:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please transliterate the Armenian name? Meursault2004 12:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Lake Van is a notable lake because it's so deep and is very large for a salt lake. It would be good to be able to list some accurate measurements for the lake, such as depth, area, volume height above sea level, etc. There are quite a number of differing figures for these, so I thought compiling the various sources here might help establish the most reliable figures. Any general comments would be welcome, too. Rupert Clayton 14:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Bold (where used) indicates figures that appear to have most corroboration. Data sources are listed at the end. Rupert Clayton 17:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Overall salinity: 24 g/L [15]
Salt content (just NaCl?): 0.19% [16]
1911 Britannica [8]
Many reports of research around Lake Van in various fields contain basic data on the lake's measurements. Because of this, modern sources in seemingly tangential specialties may have more accurate data than older geological, limnological, and bathymetric sources.
Springer journals [10]
impact in eastern Anatolia: high resolution pollen, charcoal, isotopic, and geochemical records from the laminated sediments of Lake Van, Turkey, The Holocene 2003 in press.
Encyclopedia Britannica online [8]
Columbia Encyclopedia online [7]
{{
citation}}
: Unknown parameter |contribution-title=
ignored (
help)
If the water level rises after a railway deviation is built to bypass the Lake Van ferry, that investment would be wasted. How difficult would it to build an outlet tunnel to drain the lake and protect that railway? Tabletop ( talk) 01:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
I added a reference to the pH, but the article still needs a reference about the extraction of economic resources. I'll see what I can find, but someone searching Turkish sources would be useful also. -- KP Botany ( talk) 19:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
http://www.livius.org/va-vh/van/van_lake.html , this name is important because Van, Turkey = Tushpa! (The Greek and Latin languages had no "sh" sound) Böri ( talk) 12:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Does anyone know the name of this peninsula. Google Maps/Earth shows nothing, and I cant find anything while searching online. Reh man 11:51, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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Rupert Clayton: Greek name seems relevant for a major lake that was part of the Byzantine Empire on and off
. Mostly off, that is. As far as I am able to find out, the area was Byzantine from 1021 (when the Armenian kingdom of Vaspurakan was incorporated in the Byzantine Empire) to 1087 (the battle of Manzikert), possibly also for a few years up to the Arab invasion in 640. For most of historic time it has been part of different Armenian states, and it has actually been far longer under Mongolian rule than under Byzantine. I would suggest that the Greek name is undue for the lede per
WP:PLACE. If not, there will be a huge number of places where a Greek name should or could be added. --
T*U (
talk) 09:52, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Why is the Armenian name of the town included? These have been Turkish and Kurdish lands for a thousand years. Articles on Greek islands that were Turkish territory a hundred years ago are not allowing Turkish names to be included! Double standards seem to be at play. Someone explain it logically please. Dominator1071 ( talk) 23:19, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
ZaniGiovanni you are removing the Eastern Anatolia Region wikilink from the stable lead, which was inserted about 7 months ago [11] with no apperant reason. And only reverting when it's readded. Would you care to explain why that information should be removed? DriedGrape ( talk) 07:47, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Edit: I'm pretty sure I'm not sanctioned from talking about Administrative divisions of Turkey– My reply was to your added comment. And I'm not accusing, I'm stating the facts with diffs. If you want the conversation to be solely about this article, then don't add comments of "how sure you are that you aren't breaching your tban". And unfoundedly accusing others of misconduct is what actually constitutes as a personal attack, which you're doing rn. ZaniGiovanni ( talk) 08:48, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
This article incorrectly uses an archaic region name instead of its modern name (Eastern Anatolia v. Armenian Highlands.) WP:MPN explicitly states that modern place names should be used instead of historical names. The previous arguments on this talk page fail to establish why "Armenian Highlands" is modern usage instead of "Eastern Anatolia." If the users who resist to use the modern place name decline to provide arguments on this respect in due time, I will modify the article accordingly. 95.12.124.115 ( talk) 09:15, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Show the perfect reason 144.48.225.2 ( talk) 15:21, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
Vartolu3566 ( talk) 15:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Why does History segment end so abruptly? 94.252.122.86 ( talk) 22:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)