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Regarding the wildlife section... what is a "rare Jessie"? It seems that should have a link to a more commonly used term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.61.170.118 ( talk) 09:36, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Based on the discussion, There is no clear consensus to move the article to the proposed title. The nominator has provided some evidence that the proposed title is more common in news sources, but the opposition has provided some evidence that the dual name is more common in scholarly sources. There is no agreement on which sources or metrics are more reliable or relevant for determining the common name. There are different opinions and preferences among the users, some of whom live in the area or are familiar with the lake. I'd also acknowledge that the discussion generally was weakly in favour of the move, however, the consensus is not strong or clear-cut, as there are also some valid arguments and sources that support the current title or the alternative title of Te Waihora. The current title should remain unchanged pending further discussions. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 09:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Reliable sources overwhelmingly prefer the proposed title; for the past year Google News provides 23 results for any form of the current title, while providing hundreds of results for the proposed title.
The proposed title is also more concise, and better conforms with MOS:SLASH. BilledMammal ( talk) 08:37, 25 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste ( WAVEDASH) 12:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph ( talk) 09:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Lake Ellesmere,
Te Waihoraand
Lake Ellesmere / Te Waihora. Popular use of the first two is not enough to support the third, per Multiple local names. For the record, I would be fine with a move to Te Waihora if it were as common as Lake Ellesmere, but I don’t think it really approaches that threshold yet. — HTGS ( talk) 03:43, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
all three of the names have a high degree of usageI'm not convinced of this; looking at the results from the past year we see the dual name and the alternative single name receiving less than 10% of the usage that "Lake Ellesmere" receives. BilledMammal ( talk) 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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Regarding the wildlife section... what is a "rare Jessie"? It seems that should have a link to a more commonly used term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.61.170.118 ( talk) 09:36, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Based on the discussion, There is no clear consensus to move the article to the proposed title. The nominator has provided some evidence that the proposed title is more common in news sources, but the opposition has provided some evidence that the dual name is more common in scholarly sources. There is no agreement on which sources or metrics are more reliable or relevant for determining the common name. There are different opinions and preferences among the users, some of whom live in the area or are familiar with the lake. I'd also acknowledge that the discussion generally was weakly in favour of the move, however, the consensus is not strong or clear-cut, as there are also some valid arguments and sources that support the current title or the alternative title of Te Waihora. The current title should remain unchanged pending further discussions. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 09:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Reliable sources overwhelmingly prefer the proposed title; for the past year Google News provides 23 results for any form of the current title, while providing hundreds of results for the proposed title.
The proposed title is also more concise, and better conforms with MOS:SLASH. BilledMammal ( talk) 08:37, 25 November 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste ( WAVEDASH) 12:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph ( talk) 09:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Lake Ellesmere,
Te Waihoraand
Lake Ellesmere / Te Waihora. Popular use of the first two is not enough to support the third, per Multiple local names. For the record, I would be fine with a move to Te Waihora if it were as common as Lake Ellesmere, but I don’t think it really approaches that threshold yet. — HTGS ( talk) 03:43, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
all three of the names have a high degree of usageI'm not convinced of this; looking at the results from the past year we see the dual name and the alternative single name receiving less than 10% of the usage that "Lake Ellesmere" receives. BilledMammal ( talk) 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)