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An IGM survey showed consensus that the US was not on the wrong side of the Laffer curve. Text about how cutting taxes would increase GDP is irrelevant, and it's unnecessary to qualify the consensus with "next five years". Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 16:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I realize that this concept is and has been much more prominent in US political discourse than in most other countries so the article will likely always focus somewhat on the US. With that said, half of the lead is focused on the US specifically, using US marginal tax rates as examples, the US conservative political argument for lowering taxes, and the popularization of the concept among US politicans. Is there objection to reducing this Americentrism in the lead? Pais arepa 16:55, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
This was noted elsewhere in the talk section: the citation of Rolle's theorem is incorrect. Instead it should be the Extreme Value Theorem. Rolle's theorem assumes differentiability, not just continuity, and concludes only that the derivative is 0 somewhere in the interior of the interval, not that it has a maximum value. I'm not familiar enough with how Wikipedia is supposed to work, so I won't edit the article, but it absolutely needs to be edited.
I moved an image from a section to place at the top, which Rja13ww33 reverted, saying it was fine where it was. However, a lead image for an article like this would be useful. Would you be open to moving the image now that I explained my rationale? If you happen to not find that image suitable, what would you suggest Rja13ww33? ~ BappleBusiness [talk] 03:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Overall, a well written article. I wouldn't change much. However, in the sections that discuss the peak of the curve, and whether a certain taxing example is on the left or right of it, those cases are worded confusingly and inconsistently. The most egregious examples would be the ones saying "wrong side of the curve". Understand those examples requires a lot of contextual understanding, and has the additional problem of passing a value judgement (which leads to an additional issue, that optimal tax rate is different and the target, but it's barely mentioned).
These sentences need to be more clearly and consistently worded. I favor a wording like "to the right of the curve's peak". Heavy Chaos ( talk) 17:11, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
I do not feel this edit is appropriate for this article. The quote added is by John Quiggin, who appears to be a middling academic with no special qualification or connection to the Laffer curve. Further, the quote itself tells us nothing of value about the laffer curve "the Laffer curve was "correct but unoriginal", but Laffer's analysis that the United States was to the right of the peak of the Laffer curve "was original but incorrect." What does this add? We already say earlier that Laffer was not the first person to notice the LC: "Laffer states that he did not invent the concept, citing numerous antecedents, including the Muqaddimah by 14th-century Islamic scholar Ibn Khaldun, John Maynard Keynes and Adam Smith." And the part about Laffer's analysis is irrelevant as the article is not about Laffer himself. For these reasons, i intend to remove this section once again. Bonewah ( talk) 14:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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An IGM survey showed consensus that the US was not on the wrong side of the Laffer curve. Text about how cutting taxes would increase GDP is irrelevant, and it's unnecessary to qualify the consensus with "next five years". Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 16:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I realize that this concept is and has been much more prominent in US political discourse than in most other countries so the article will likely always focus somewhat on the US. With that said, half of the lead is focused on the US specifically, using US marginal tax rates as examples, the US conservative political argument for lowering taxes, and the popularization of the concept among US politicans. Is there objection to reducing this Americentrism in the lead? Pais arepa 16:55, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
This was noted elsewhere in the talk section: the citation of Rolle's theorem is incorrect. Instead it should be the Extreme Value Theorem. Rolle's theorem assumes differentiability, not just continuity, and concludes only that the derivative is 0 somewhere in the interior of the interval, not that it has a maximum value. I'm not familiar enough with how Wikipedia is supposed to work, so I won't edit the article, but it absolutely needs to be edited.
I moved an image from a section to place at the top, which Rja13ww33 reverted, saying it was fine where it was. However, a lead image for an article like this would be useful. Would you be open to moving the image now that I explained my rationale? If you happen to not find that image suitable, what would you suggest Rja13ww33? ~ BappleBusiness [talk] 03:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Overall, a well written article. I wouldn't change much. However, in the sections that discuss the peak of the curve, and whether a certain taxing example is on the left or right of it, those cases are worded confusingly and inconsistently. The most egregious examples would be the ones saying "wrong side of the curve". Understand those examples requires a lot of contextual understanding, and has the additional problem of passing a value judgement (which leads to an additional issue, that optimal tax rate is different and the target, but it's barely mentioned).
These sentences need to be more clearly and consistently worded. I favor a wording like "to the right of the curve's peak". Heavy Chaos ( talk) 17:11, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
I do not feel this edit is appropriate for this article. The quote added is by John Quiggin, who appears to be a middling academic with no special qualification or connection to the Laffer curve. Further, the quote itself tells us nothing of value about the laffer curve "the Laffer curve was "correct but unoriginal", but Laffer's analysis that the United States was to the right of the peak of the Laffer curve "was original but incorrect." What does this add? We already say earlier that Laffer was not the first person to notice the LC: "Laffer states that he did not invent the concept, citing numerous antecedents, including the Muqaddimah by 14th-century Islamic scholar Ibn Khaldun, John Maynard Keynes and Adam Smith." And the part about Laffer's analysis is irrelevant as the article is not about Laffer himself. For these reasons, i intend to remove this section once again. Bonewah ( talk) 14:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)