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A question - this article features a color image of a rat undergoing dissection. I find the photo distasteful and nauseous-making. I understand Wikipedia doesn't censor by way of sugar coating its articles, to do so would be to lessen their encyclopedic breadth, but is the dissection necessary? Would a regular give me an idea of protocol on this? -- 75.68.169.29 ( talk) 03:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v428/n6982/pdf/nature02426.pdf - ΖαππερΝαππερ Babel Alexandria 21:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- ΖαππερΝαππερ Babel Alexandria 21:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
After discussion with the ever patient ΖαππερΝαππερ, first at Talk:Fancy rat (Under review of new sources) and then at my talk page, I would like to propose the following:
1. Move info from Lee's Article to Pet Rats. Although she goes over some lab strains, it is to support her opinion about the ethics of breeding and showing hairless rats, which is a pet topic. Include Gangi's as a possible opposing POV, unless a better non-self-published article is available.
2. A general overview of hairless rat lab lines, and what they are maintained for, written on the lab rat page, but based on science journal articles, not on Lee's article. There are many references in Lee and Gangi's articles, some of which appear to be reviews of common lab lines, that we can use.
I wouldn't mind digging up some articles through Inter-Library Loan (if they are not available online), but I would need to know how to share with other contributors the info from copyrighted scanned/faxed articles once I get them (Obviously a newbie here!) -- 75.3.0.156 ( talk) 04:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
This article states that Wistar, Long-Evans, and Sprague-Dawley are outbred stocks. It also states that outbred stocks are "the opposite" of inbred strains.
The Inbred strain article says inbred strains consist of individuals who are 98% genetically identical, created through 20 generations of brother-sister breeding, and the Wistar, Sprague-Dawley, and Long-Evans rats are listed as inbred strains.
Can an expert clear up the inconsistancy between these two articles? -- SV Resolution( Talk) 14:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The picture of hairless rats is actually a picture of hairless mice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isthisfunforyou ( talk • contribs) 15:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
http://www.informatics.jax.org/external/festing/rat/docs/LEW.shtml
as it has comparable numbers as other strains listed using http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
as a lazy measure of its popularity, where "{name} {yield}" is derived from a search of "{name} rat": zucker 776, sprague-dawley 2409, lewis 1305, long-evans 276, wistar 3025, biobreeding 31;
of course, i'm too lazy to write about them right now. 24.52.143.225 ( talk) 19:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it might be appropriate for the section on Sprague-Dawley rats to include some discussion of their natural tendency to develop tumors at around 24 months of age? Here's an article for anyone unfamiliar with the concept, but you will have to remove the spaces from the URL -- apparently examiner-dot-com is blacklisted: http: //www. examiner .com /article/seralini-claims-rat-chow-and-gmos-led-to-tumors I'm not commenting either way -- I'm just wondering if the concept should be included. Adv4Ag ( talk) 22:30, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
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I stumbled on this article and noticed a couple of things that is very confusing to the reader. (1) In "Use in research". we see a sentence that is cut-off in the middle (paragraph 4): Inbred strains are also available but are not as commonly used as inbred mice (2) Also in "Use in research", we see a sentence that is phrased in a rather odd way, I have no idea what this means (Last sentence): During food rationing due to World War II, British biologists ate laboratory rat, creamed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acolaos ( talk • contribs) 04:36, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
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A question - this article features a color image of a rat undergoing dissection. I find the photo distasteful and nauseous-making. I understand Wikipedia doesn't censor by way of sugar coating its articles, to do so would be to lessen their encyclopedic breadth, but is the dissection necessary? Would a regular give me an idea of protocol on this? -- 75.68.169.29 ( talk) 03:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v428/n6982/pdf/nature02426.pdf - ΖαππερΝαππερ Babel Alexandria 21:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- ΖαππερΝαππερ Babel Alexandria 21:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
After discussion with the ever patient ΖαππερΝαππερ, first at Talk:Fancy rat (Under review of new sources) and then at my talk page, I would like to propose the following:
1. Move info from Lee's Article to Pet Rats. Although she goes over some lab strains, it is to support her opinion about the ethics of breeding and showing hairless rats, which is a pet topic. Include Gangi's as a possible opposing POV, unless a better non-self-published article is available.
2. A general overview of hairless rat lab lines, and what they are maintained for, written on the lab rat page, but based on science journal articles, not on Lee's article. There are many references in Lee and Gangi's articles, some of which appear to be reviews of common lab lines, that we can use.
I wouldn't mind digging up some articles through Inter-Library Loan (if they are not available online), but I would need to know how to share with other contributors the info from copyrighted scanned/faxed articles once I get them (Obviously a newbie here!) -- 75.3.0.156 ( talk) 04:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
This article states that Wistar, Long-Evans, and Sprague-Dawley are outbred stocks. It also states that outbred stocks are "the opposite" of inbred strains.
The Inbred strain article says inbred strains consist of individuals who are 98% genetically identical, created through 20 generations of brother-sister breeding, and the Wistar, Sprague-Dawley, and Long-Evans rats are listed as inbred strains.
Can an expert clear up the inconsistancy between these two articles? -- SV Resolution( Talk) 14:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
The picture of hairless rats is actually a picture of hairless mice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isthisfunforyou ( talk • contribs) 15:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
http://www.informatics.jax.org/external/festing/rat/docs/LEW.shtml
as it has comparable numbers as other strains listed using http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
as a lazy measure of its popularity, where "{name} {yield}" is derived from a search of "{name} rat": zucker 776, sprague-dawley 2409, lewis 1305, long-evans 276, wistar 3025, biobreeding 31;
of course, i'm too lazy to write about them right now. 24.52.143.225 ( talk) 19:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it might be appropriate for the section on Sprague-Dawley rats to include some discussion of their natural tendency to develop tumors at around 24 months of age? Here's an article for anyone unfamiliar with the concept, but you will have to remove the spaces from the URL -- apparently examiner-dot-com is blacklisted: http: //www. examiner .com /article/seralini-claims-rat-chow-and-gmos-led-to-tumors I'm not commenting either way -- I'm just wondering if the concept should be included. Adv4Ag ( talk) 22:30, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
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I stumbled on this article and noticed a couple of things that is very confusing to the reader. (1) In "Use in research". we see a sentence that is cut-off in the middle (paragraph 4): Inbred strains are also available but are not as commonly used as inbred mice (2) Also in "Use in research", we see a sentence that is phrased in a rather odd way, I have no idea what this means (Last sentence): During food rationing due to World War II, British biologists ate laboratory rat, creamed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acolaos ( talk • contribs) 04:36, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Planning to make revisions to some of the sentences to make the paragraph more coherent:
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