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The Aircraft of the article has been designated the OA-1K Sky Warden since late last year (2022). I recommend the article be renamed in a similar way to the other aircraft in the USAF inventory by referring to the designation. Since I don't know how to do this yet, I'm
being bold by quietly suggesting this course of action if I might be allowed to. --
Srwalden (
talk) 02:02, 26 July 2023 (UTC)reply
The designation is confirmed, but I've yet to see a source that states the name is in official use by SOCOM. Do you have one?
BilCat (
talk) 02:12, 26 July 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Srwalden and
BilCat:: As you say, the Sky Warden name doesn't appear to have been adopted by the AF or SOCOM as yet. The
one official article I did find from August last year just refers to it as "the OA-1K Armed Overwatch aircraft". So perhaps just
Air Tractor–L3Harris OA-1K for now, until a name is assigned? And also moving "Sky Warden" to the company designation in the lead?
RadiculousJ (
talk) 13:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
"OA-1K Armed Overwatch aircraft" appears to be an amalgamation of the Tri-Service designation and the Armed Overwatch Plan which led to the acquisition of the aircraft. That said, apart from a
photo from the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum, I am not seeing very many reliable sources using "OA-1K Sky Warden". - ZLEAT\C 15:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I found several reliable sources using "OA-1K Sky Warden", including
AvWeek. Remember, it doesn't have to be an official name, just the most common one, and "Sky Warden" is used in several reliable sources. I'd support "Air Tractor-L3Harris OA-1K Sky Warden" or "L3Harris OA-1K Sky Warden" as the article's title as of now. (But don't get me started on the silliness of the "OA-1K" designation, when it should probably been "OA-14A"!)
BilCat (
talk) 17:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Or OA-15A. "A-14" was briefly assigned to the
Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano before it was changed to "A-29B". - ZLEAT\C 17:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Oh, I forgot about that one! Of course, designations have been reassigned before, so who knows.
BilCat (
talk) 21:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
As far as the "OA-1K Armed Overwatch aircraft" thing, Zlea did a better job of making the point I was trying to, that it doesn't appear to have an official nickname yet. However, as you say BilCat, it doesn't have to be official, just common in reliable sources, so "Sky Warden" should be included in the title for now, and it can of course be moved again if the AF/SOCOM pick a different name. I don't have a preference either way whether Air Tractor is included, though I believe I'm correct in saying that when two manufacturers are included it should be an en dash between them? And I'm glad to see I'm not the only person around who gets mildly annoyed over the increasing complete disregard for the AF's own rules for MDS designations.
RadiculousJ (
talk) 04:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No comment on en-dashes. I use hyphens for everything, in protest of Wikipedia's over-prescribing of en-dashes. After all, my computer keyboard doesn't have an en-dash key. The MOS wonks will be along in time to move the article. It keeps them occupied, and distracts them enough that hopefully they won't discover new "issues" to force on Wikipedia without proper consensus. :)
BilCat (
talk) 19:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I support "L3 Harris OA-1K Sky Warden" all things considered. @
BilCat nailed it.
Srwalden (
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The Aircraft of the article has been designated the OA-1K Sky Warden since late last year (2022). I recommend the article be renamed in a similar way to the other aircraft in the USAF inventory by referring to the designation. Since I don't know how to do this yet, I'm
being bold by quietly suggesting this course of action if I might be allowed to. --
Srwalden (
talk) 02:02, 26 July 2023 (UTC)reply
The designation is confirmed, but I've yet to see a source that states the name is in official use by SOCOM. Do you have one?
BilCat (
talk) 02:12, 26 July 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Srwalden and
BilCat:: As you say, the Sky Warden name doesn't appear to have been adopted by the AF or SOCOM as yet. The
one official article I did find from August last year just refers to it as "the OA-1K Armed Overwatch aircraft". So perhaps just
Air Tractor–L3Harris OA-1K for now, until a name is assigned? And also moving "Sky Warden" to the company designation in the lead?
RadiculousJ (
talk) 13:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
"OA-1K Armed Overwatch aircraft" appears to be an amalgamation of the Tri-Service designation and the Armed Overwatch Plan which led to the acquisition of the aircraft. That said, apart from a
photo from the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum, I am not seeing very many reliable sources using "OA-1K Sky Warden". - ZLEAT\C 15:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I found several reliable sources using "OA-1K Sky Warden", including
AvWeek. Remember, it doesn't have to be an official name, just the most common one, and "Sky Warden" is used in several reliable sources. I'd support "Air Tractor-L3Harris OA-1K Sky Warden" or "L3Harris OA-1K Sky Warden" as the article's title as of now. (But don't get me started on the silliness of the "OA-1K" designation, when it should probably been "OA-14A"!)
BilCat (
talk) 17:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Or OA-15A. "A-14" was briefly assigned to the
Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano before it was changed to "A-29B". - ZLEAT\C 17:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
Oh, I forgot about that one! Of course, designations have been reassigned before, so who knows.
BilCat (
talk) 21:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)reply
As far as the "OA-1K Armed Overwatch aircraft" thing, Zlea did a better job of making the point I was trying to, that it doesn't appear to have an official nickname yet. However, as you say BilCat, it doesn't have to be official, just common in reliable sources, so "Sky Warden" should be included in the title for now, and it can of course be moved again if the AF/SOCOM pick a different name. I don't have a preference either way whether Air Tractor is included, though I believe I'm correct in saying that when two manufacturers are included it should be an en dash between them? And I'm glad to see I'm not the only person around who gets mildly annoyed over the increasing complete disregard for the AF's own rules for MDS designations.
RadiculousJ (
talk) 04:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)reply
No comment on en-dashes. I use hyphens for everything, in protest of Wikipedia's over-prescribing of en-dashes. After all, my computer keyboard doesn't have an en-dash key. The MOS wonks will be along in time to move the article. It keeps them occupied, and distracts them enough that hopefully they won't discover new "issues" to force on Wikipedia without proper consensus. :)
BilCat (
talk) 19:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)reply
I support "L3 Harris OA-1K Sky Warden" all things considered. @
BilCat nailed it.
Srwalden (
talk) 11:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)reply