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The Kurdistan article gives reference to Britannnica [ [1]], but someone pushes POV fork, probably believing that no one would check it with the orinal source. In Brittannica the Kurdistan article is as follows:
"The name Kurdistan (“Land of the Kurds”) refers to an area that roughly includes the mountain systems of the Zagros and the eastern extension of the Taurus. Since very early times the area has been the home of the Kurds, a people whose ethnic origins are uncertain. For 600 years after the Arab conquest and their conversion to Islam, the Kurds played a recognizable and considerable part in the troubled history of western Asia, but as tribes, individuals, or turbulent groups rather than as a people.
Among the petty Kurdish dynasties that arose during this period the most important were the Shaddadids, ruling a predominantly Armenian population in the Ani and Ganja districts of Transcaucasia (951–1174); the Marwanids of Diyarbakir (990–1096); and the Hasanwayhids of Dinavar in the Kermanshah region (959–1015). Less is written of the Kurds under the Mongols and Turkmens, but they again became prominent in the wars between the Ottoman Empire and the Safavid dynasty. Several Kurdish principalities developed and survived into the first half of the 19th century, notably those of Bohtan, Hakari, Bahdinan, Soran, and Baban in Turkey and of Mukri and Ardelan in Persia. But Kurdistan, though it played a considerable part in the history of western Asia, never enjoyed political unity.
With the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire after World War I (1914–18), and particularly with the encouragement of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson—one of whose Fourteen Points stipulated that the non-Turkish nationalities of the Ottoman Empire should be “assured of an absolute unmolested opportunity of autonomous development”—Kurdish nationalists looked to the eventual establishment of a Kurdistani state.
The Treaty of Sèvres, signed in 1920 by representatives of the Allies and of the sultan, provided for the recognition of the three Arab states of Hejaz, Syria, and Iraq and of Armenia and, to the south of it, Kurdistan, which the Kurds of the Mosul vilayet (province), then under British occupation, would have the right to join. Owing to the military revival of Turkey under Kemal Atatürk, this treaty was never ratified. It was superseded in 1923 by the Treaty of Lausanne, which confirmed the provision for the Arab states but omitted mention of Armenia and Kurdistan. Mosul was excluded from the settlement, and the question of its future was referred to the League of Nations, which in 1925 awarded it to Iraq. This decision was made effective by the Treaty of Ankara, signed in 1926 by Turkey, Iraq, and Great Britain."
The claims are merely political and a problem of POV. There are Turkish citizens living as much as Kurd originated Turks. Everyone can see that the progress going on in the northern Iraq is due to natural sources of the area, it is explicit!
İf a comparison is made for the situation, the problem of Cyprus sould be considered as the Turkish Cypriots claimed a free and offical state in Cyprus which is not recognized by many countries on contrary of an imaginary Kurdland. However Turkish C. inhabitated Cyprus and they got their country by force and draw the border, thus no one can claim the area invaded should be given back as the area has always been Turkish Cypriot. But Kudish area is something different, so called Kurdistan doen not exists, they are mostly Turkish or Iraqi citizens! So why USA still fond of an independant state in N.Iraq and S.W Turkey? Petroleum is the simple answer. As not so they sould have accepted the N.Cyprius. What is going on in Iraq and in N.Iraq is not LEGAL and it is a crime! Check out Leo Strauss( 85.102.61.61 10:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC))
In what way is the Turkish republic in Northern Cyprus more real than the Kurdish autonomous region in Iraq ? -- Vindheim 17:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Probably because it's widely accepted as an independent country and it has been claimed by war when it was necesarry. -—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:|User:]] ([[User talk:|talk]] • contribs)
Turkish occupied cyprus is'nt recognised by any country other than Turkey, who invaded and occupied the region. -—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:|User:]] ([[User talk:|talk]] • contribs)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NAZ20061001&articleId=3361
The 1820 world map is not a very convincing picture. It shows various countries, administrative subdivisions and regions. However, nothing is well-defined; Kurdistan is not given any real boundaries, just like the territories in North and Western Canada. I'd advocate replacing this map with a new one illustrating the intent behind the Treaty of Sevres. Hugo Dufort 05:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Where are kurdistan ???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.98.110.71 ( talk • contribs) 15:16, 14 October 2006.
the northern republic of cyprus doesnt officially exist but the turks recognise it so why shouldnt we recognise kurdistan, it does exist!!! The guy that wrote above knows his stuff, hes abit angry though. YES KURDISTAN Ge0rg10 User:GE0RG10
Merriam-Webster Collegiate® Dictionary
•
- Date: 1904
- an Oriental rug woven by the Kurds and noted for fine colors
Function: geographical name
region SW Asia chiefly in E Turkey, NW Iran, & N Iraq
© 2005 Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
Why was the history section removed from the article, you can't just remove portions of articles without explanation.
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-- D.Kurdistani 04:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
both of area is in TURKEY
This article contains a lot of propaganda. All the nations of the middle east knows that the kurds have never been a nation, never had a such thing as a kingdom in the middle east, neither did the name kurd appear before christ, their name appeared in history about 1100 after death. If you believe this or not is up to you but we from the middle east knows the truth about the . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.216.185.79 ( talk) 09:26 30 October 2006
Kurds are tribes nonunited. Kurdish is a mixture of Iranian dialects. Kurds do not have concrete history or literature. Kurds never had a concrete homeland...they are just being created by puppet masters. Thank you.( cantikadam 13:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC))
There are several things wrong with the new infobox:
Khoi khoi 23:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
![]() Kurdish-Inhabited Areas | |
Location | Parts of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Armenia |
Languages Spoken | Kurdish کوردی |
Area (
Est.) - Total | 190,000 km² - 390,000 km² 74,000 sq.mi-151,000 sq.mi [2] |
Population - Total (2006 Est.) | 25-37.5 Million [3] |
![]() Kurdish-inhabited area | |
Location | Parts of Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey |
Estimated Area | ca. 74,000 sq mi (191,660 km²)-392,000 km² [4] |
Estimated Population | About 25-30 Million |
This map is false according to Newsweek magazine [ [5]] - [ [6]]. The current map just basically where ALL kurds live, but this is making the reader misjudge something, it makes it look like in the shaded area, kurds form the majority, which is totally false. For example, Kurdistan does NOT include Mousil, as they dont make the majority. Please, can we create a new more accurate map? Chaldean 03:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
If you knew a thing or two about the middle east you would know that political division = ethnic division. The map you provide is old, the one I provided is newer thus being more accurate.
Chaldean 17:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/520C1CA6-92FA-48D1-8BF7-6B85659036AE,frameless.htm
-it could be useful to contact the site about their sources and maybe clear this up.. they must have got that info from somewhere.. if it's unreliable then we'd like to know aanyway :) 82.29.70.34 23:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
The Iraqi Kurdistan region and Kurdistan Province in Iran are officially acknowledged parts of Kurdistan. Officially acknowledged by who? Musungu jim 22:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
They never talk about a "State of Kurdistan". I hope you make that clear. Korrybean 22:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Template:Kurds has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Khorshid 13:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
The vandalism is truly cretinous.
Khoikhoi: What's up with the reversions? Perhaps we can discuss them here. My concern is you are reverting hard work by several people without an explanation, but I'm sure you have valuable input to include in the article. As described on here, try improving the article, and please offer an reason for edits. Or, as you say above, Wikipedia is a collaborative exercise. It's not "every man for himself". We work together to build consensus on issues. Guanxi 19:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Copying Khoikhoi's comments from above:
I reverted because the "status of Kurdistan" section is unecessary. Please provide sources that such a debate exists. Virtually everyone recognizes Kurdistan as a region—even the Kurds don't say it's a country. Also, why is it necessary to say "not existing as a country" in the infobox? Is there anyone that claims it's a country? Khoi khoi 19:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
"Virtually everyone recognizes Kurdistan as a region": That depends on what you mean by "region". The Turkish government has very different ideas than the supporters of Kurdistan. Here is some evidence off the top of my head:
So certainly there is some controversy. Guanxi 19:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm Turkish I deleted a vandalism in Turkish in the middle of the page. You might want to protect the page. We have many nationalists jumping around the web.
To all Turks who are commenting on this article: Why you are so hateful of Kurds and Kurdistan?! Isn't that hatred another good reason that Kurds and Kurdistan DO EXIST and you are in the state of denial? Where were Turks 2500 years ago? How did Turks get their country? How did Iraqis get their country? Europe granted them that right after they destroyed an Empire and defeated by Europe. Some of commentators are saying that there are no Kurds and they all are Turks and Iraqi citizens! I wonder how someone claims that all 15-20 millions Kurds in Turkey are all Turks or 3-5 millions Kurds in Iraq are all Arabs and deny the truth about Kurds and Kurdistan. Kurdistan means LAND OF KURDS and no dictionary can deny that. Kurds have history, literature, and everything that a nation should have. Nobody gives them the opportunity to publish them. Once Kurdistan is established, you will read about them!
They are terorist and they kills teachers,women,children. They are putting bombs in the citties and they are the killers,terrorists. Now you can understand why we are so hating these people, for you to understand you should watch these videos. http://youtube.com/watch?v=aBSz0USm_OY&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=keAgi-rPYmk
I removed the last sentence, because it incorrectly stated that Kurds and Assyrians have adopted Arabic culture. Assyrians in general are culturally, and ethnically distinct from Arabs. In addition, Kurdish culture is very distinct from Arabic culture, is it not?-- Šarukinu 05:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I've had it with these random users vandalizing the page. It should be semi-protected. ~~ Eugene 2x Sign here ☺ ~~ 19:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Your maps are wrong.You all know.There is no amet.Diyarbakır is a Turkish city.You cannot change the truth.I hope, may god show you the right way.You couldn't divide Turkey and won't be able to do that.We have been living there since 1071 and will live until life is over.Bonafide
And Kurds have been living in Anatolia since 2500 BC or later so show some respect and let us put this down to history. The word Diyarbakir is not Turkish it's in Arabic but Amed was once the name of the city, so it has to be mentioned for the sake of History. Don't worry words don't divide a country. Ozgur Gerilla 18:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Here I don't mean The word, my point is that the city is turkish.If we discuss about the names; Izmir, İstanbul etc. also aren't turkish names.And that shouldn't mean that they're Greek cities.But Diyarbakır is now a turkish city and it has its official name.Kurds may be living in Anatolia since 2500 BC.And Americans used to live in England.Should they come back to England? Should Turks go to middle Asia? Or ıf we go more past should all people go to Jarusalem? Words of course doesn't divide a country.But these words show Turkey divided on some maps. Bonafide
No one here tries to divide Turkey. Diyarbakir is a Kurdish city in the sense that it's predominantly inhabited by Kurdish people but of course it is under the Turkish territory. The map just shows where Kurds predominantly inhabit. So please let's cut the paranoia. Ozgur Gerilla 01:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Then you accept the aim "dividing Turkey".The word "nationalist" is sticked on Turks.But when some Kurds are nationalist they call themselves communist.And let historicians tell about the history.Bonafide
Diyarbakır was once an Armenian city, but in the early twentieth century something mysterious happened which the Turks don't know a thing about. No genocide, no Kurdistan, no troubles at all in the beautiful land of Turkey!
I would like to create a page that talks about sports and kurds. A page that talks about some of the currnet Kurdish-based teams like Arbil FC, athletes like Hawar Mulla Mohammed, etc. But I dont know what would be a NPOV title for this page. We can't have Sports in Kurdistan like the way Sports in Armenia is, so then what should be the title? Chaldean 16:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
"Traditionally Kurdish Sports/Athletes" is a good idea, but to be honest, I doubt there's any sport native to Kurdistan. Athletes, yes.
ZAZALÄNDER: Sory bud this Map(Karte) is not Correktly, I am one Zaza not Kurdo and my Land is ZAZALAND and not kurdistan..
whay say the kurd to may contry´kurdistan ?
According to this source [8], Kurdistan is not part of Iranian plateau. So I removed the category. Heja Helweda 23:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The ending of —ene was the Greek suffix for satrapies, as the ending of —stan in the word Kurdistan is the Kurdish suffix for toponyms meaning 'land of', however the original Kurdish equivalent for Kurdistan used by Kurds themselves, has been the word 'Kurdewarî'.
I am an Kurd and i have never called Kurdistan for Kurdewari, which means kurdish culture. We Kurds call our country for Kurdistan (Kordestan) and have never called Kurdewari. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.140.221.115 ( talk) 19:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC).
Remove map this article! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StANDby007 ( talk • contribs) 11:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC).
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The Kurdistan article gives reference to Britannnica [ [1]], but someone pushes POV fork, probably believing that no one would check it with the orinal source. In Brittannica the Kurdistan article is as follows:
"The name Kurdistan (“Land of the Kurds”) refers to an area that roughly includes the mountain systems of the Zagros and the eastern extension of the Taurus. Since very early times the area has been the home of the Kurds, a people whose ethnic origins are uncertain. For 600 years after the Arab conquest and their conversion to Islam, the Kurds played a recognizable and considerable part in the troubled history of western Asia, but as tribes, individuals, or turbulent groups rather than as a people.
Among the petty Kurdish dynasties that arose during this period the most important were the Shaddadids, ruling a predominantly Armenian population in the Ani and Ganja districts of Transcaucasia (951–1174); the Marwanids of Diyarbakir (990–1096); and the Hasanwayhids of Dinavar in the Kermanshah region (959–1015). Less is written of the Kurds under the Mongols and Turkmens, but they again became prominent in the wars between the Ottoman Empire and the Safavid dynasty. Several Kurdish principalities developed and survived into the first half of the 19th century, notably those of Bohtan, Hakari, Bahdinan, Soran, and Baban in Turkey and of Mukri and Ardelan in Persia. But Kurdistan, though it played a considerable part in the history of western Asia, never enjoyed political unity.
With the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire after World War I (1914–18), and particularly with the encouragement of U.S. President Woodrow Wilson—one of whose Fourteen Points stipulated that the non-Turkish nationalities of the Ottoman Empire should be “assured of an absolute unmolested opportunity of autonomous development”—Kurdish nationalists looked to the eventual establishment of a Kurdistani state.
The Treaty of Sèvres, signed in 1920 by representatives of the Allies and of the sultan, provided for the recognition of the three Arab states of Hejaz, Syria, and Iraq and of Armenia and, to the south of it, Kurdistan, which the Kurds of the Mosul vilayet (province), then under British occupation, would have the right to join. Owing to the military revival of Turkey under Kemal Atatürk, this treaty was never ratified. It was superseded in 1923 by the Treaty of Lausanne, which confirmed the provision for the Arab states but omitted mention of Armenia and Kurdistan. Mosul was excluded from the settlement, and the question of its future was referred to the League of Nations, which in 1925 awarded it to Iraq. This decision was made effective by the Treaty of Ankara, signed in 1926 by Turkey, Iraq, and Great Britain."
The claims are merely political and a problem of POV. There are Turkish citizens living as much as Kurd originated Turks. Everyone can see that the progress going on in the northern Iraq is due to natural sources of the area, it is explicit!
İf a comparison is made for the situation, the problem of Cyprus sould be considered as the Turkish Cypriots claimed a free and offical state in Cyprus which is not recognized by many countries on contrary of an imaginary Kurdland. However Turkish C. inhabitated Cyprus and they got their country by force and draw the border, thus no one can claim the area invaded should be given back as the area has always been Turkish Cypriot. But Kudish area is something different, so called Kurdistan doen not exists, they are mostly Turkish or Iraqi citizens! So why USA still fond of an independant state in N.Iraq and S.W Turkey? Petroleum is the simple answer. As not so they sould have accepted the N.Cyprius. What is going on in Iraq and in N.Iraq is not LEGAL and it is a crime! Check out Leo Strauss( 85.102.61.61 10:00, 28 September 2006 (UTC))
In what way is the Turkish republic in Northern Cyprus more real than the Kurdish autonomous region in Iraq ? -- Vindheim 17:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Probably because it's widely accepted as an independent country and it has been claimed by war when it was necesarry. -—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:|User:]] ([[User talk:|talk]] • contribs)
Turkish occupied cyprus is'nt recognised by any country other than Turkey, who invaded and occupied the region. -—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:|User:]] ([[User talk:|talk]] • contribs)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NAZ20061001&articleId=3361
The 1820 world map is not a very convincing picture. It shows various countries, administrative subdivisions and regions. However, nothing is well-defined; Kurdistan is not given any real boundaries, just like the territories in North and Western Canada. I'd advocate replacing this map with a new one illustrating the intent behind the Treaty of Sevres. Hugo Dufort 05:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Where are kurdistan ???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.98.110.71 ( talk • contribs) 15:16, 14 October 2006.
the northern republic of cyprus doesnt officially exist but the turks recognise it so why shouldnt we recognise kurdistan, it does exist!!! The guy that wrote above knows his stuff, hes abit angry though. YES KURDISTAN Ge0rg10 User:GE0RG10
Merriam-Webster Collegiate® Dictionary
•
- Date: 1904
- an Oriental rug woven by the Kurds and noted for fine colors
Function: geographical name
region SW Asia chiefly in E Turkey, NW Iran, & N Iraq
© 2005 Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
Why was the history section removed from the article, you can't just remove portions of articles without explanation.
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-- D.Kurdistani 04:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
both of area is in TURKEY
This article contains a lot of propaganda. All the nations of the middle east knows that the kurds have never been a nation, never had a such thing as a kingdom in the middle east, neither did the name kurd appear before christ, their name appeared in history about 1100 after death. If you believe this or not is up to you but we from the middle east knows the truth about the . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.216.185.79 ( talk) 09:26 30 October 2006
Kurds are tribes nonunited. Kurdish is a mixture of Iranian dialects. Kurds do not have concrete history or literature. Kurds never had a concrete homeland...they are just being created by puppet masters. Thank you.( cantikadam 13:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC))
There are several things wrong with the new infobox:
Khoi khoi 23:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
![]() Kurdish-Inhabited Areas | |
Location | Parts of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Armenia |
Languages Spoken | Kurdish کوردی |
Area (
Est.) - Total | 190,000 km² - 390,000 km² 74,000 sq.mi-151,000 sq.mi [2] |
Population - Total (2006 Est.) | 25-37.5 Million [3] |
![]() Kurdish-inhabited area | |
Location | Parts of Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey |
Estimated Area | ca. 74,000 sq mi (191,660 km²)-392,000 km² [4] |
Estimated Population | About 25-30 Million |
This map is false according to Newsweek magazine [ [5]] - [ [6]]. The current map just basically where ALL kurds live, but this is making the reader misjudge something, it makes it look like in the shaded area, kurds form the majority, which is totally false. For example, Kurdistan does NOT include Mousil, as they dont make the majority. Please, can we create a new more accurate map? Chaldean 03:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
If you knew a thing or two about the middle east you would know that political division = ethnic division. The map you provide is old, the one I provided is newer thus being more accurate.
Chaldean 17:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/520C1CA6-92FA-48D1-8BF7-6B85659036AE,frameless.htm
-it could be useful to contact the site about their sources and maybe clear this up.. they must have got that info from somewhere.. if it's unreliable then we'd like to know aanyway :) 82.29.70.34 23:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
The Iraqi Kurdistan region and Kurdistan Province in Iran are officially acknowledged parts of Kurdistan. Officially acknowledged by who? Musungu jim 22:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
They never talk about a "State of Kurdistan". I hope you make that clear. Korrybean 22:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Template:Kurds has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Khorshid 13:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
The vandalism is truly cretinous.
Khoikhoi: What's up with the reversions? Perhaps we can discuss them here. My concern is you are reverting hard work by several people without an explanation, but I'm sure you have valuable input to include in the article. As described on here, try improving the article, and please offer an reason for edits. Or, as you say above, Wikipedia is a collaborative exercise. It's not "every man for himself". We work together to build consensus on issues. Guanxi 19:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Copying Khoikhoi's comments from above:
I reverted because the "status of Kurdistan" section is unecessary. Please provide sources that such a debate exists. Virtually everyone recognizes Kurdistan as a region—even the Kurds don't say it's a country. Also, why is it necessary to say "not existing as a country" in the infobox? Is there anyone that claims it's a country? Khoi khoi 19:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
"Virtually everyone recognizes Kurdistan as a region": That depends on what you mean by "region". The Turkish government has very different ideas than the supporters of Kurdistan. Here is some evidence off the top of my head:
So certainly there is some controversy. Guanxi 19:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm Turkish I deleted a vandalism in Turkish in the middle of the page. You might want to protect the page. We have many nationalists jumping around the web.
To all Turks who are commenting on this article: Why you are so hateful of Kurds and Kurdistan?! Isn't that hatred another good reason that Kurds and Kurdistan DO EXIST and you are in the state of denial? Where were Turks 2500 years ago? How did Turks get their country? How did Iraqis get their country? Europe granted them that right after they destroyed an Empire and defeated by Europe. Some of commentators are saying that there are no Kurds and they all are Turks and Iraqi citizens! I wonder how someone claims that all 15-20 millions Kurds in Turkey are all Turks or 3-5 millions Kurds in Iraq are all Arabs and deny the truth about Kurds and Kurdistan. Kurdistan means LAND OF KURDS and no dictionary can deny that. Kurds have history, literature, and everything that a nation should have. Nobody gives them the opportunity to publish them. Once Kurdistan is established, you will read about them!
They are terorist and they kills teachers,women,children. They are putting bombs in the citties and they are the killers,terrorists. Now you can understand why we are so hating these people, for you to understand you should watch these videos. http://youtube.com/watch?v=aBSz0USm_OY&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=keAgi-rPYmk
I removed the last sentence, because it incorrectly stated that Kurds and Assyrians have adopted Arabic culture. Assyrians in general are culturally, and ethnically distinct from Arabs. In addition, Kurdish culture is very distinct from Arabic culture, is it not?-- Šarukinu 05:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I've had it with these random users vandalizing the page. It should be semi-protected. ~~ Eugene 2x Sign here ☺ ~~ 19:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Your maps are wrong.You all know.There is no amet.Diyarbakır is a Turkish city.You cannot change the truth.I hope, may god show you the right way.You couldn't divide Turkey and won't be able to do that.We have been living there since 1071 and will live until life is over.Bonafide
And Kurds have been living in Anatolia since 2500 BC or later so show some respect and let us put this down to history. The word Diyarbakir is not Turkish it's in Arabic but Amed was once the name of the city, so it has to be mentioned for the sake of History. Don't worry words don't divide a country. Ozgur Gerilla 18:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Here I don't mean The word, my point is that the city is turkish.If we discuss about the names; Izmir, İstanbul etc. also aren't turkish names.And that shouldn't mean that they're Greek cities.But Diyarbakır is now a turkish city and it has its official name.Kurds may be living in Anatolia since 2500 BC.And Americans used to live in England.Should they come back to England? Should Turks go to middle Asia? Or ıf we go more past should all people go to Jarusalem? Words of course doesn't divide a country.But these words show Turkey divided on some maps. Bonafide
No one here tries to divide Turkey. Diyarbakir is a Kurdish city in the sense that it's predominantly inhabited by Kurdish people but of course it is under the Turkish territory. The map just shows where Kurds predominantly inhabit. So please let's cut the paranoia. Ozgur Gerilla 01:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Then you accept the aim "dividing Turkey".The word "nationalist" is sticked on Turks.But when some Kurds are nationalist they call themselves communist.And let historicians tell about the history.Bonafide
Diyarbakır was once an Armenian city, but in the early twentieth century something mysterious happened which the Turks don't know a thing about. No genocide, no Kurdistan, no troubles at all in the beautiful land of Turkey!
I would like to create a page that talks about sports and kurds. A page that talks about some of the currnet Kurdish-based teams like Arbil FC, athletes like Hawar Mulla Mohammed, etc. But I dont know what would be a NPOV title for this page. We can't have Sports in Kurdistan like the way Sports in Armenia is, so then what should be the title? Chaldean 16:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
"Traditionally Kurdish Sports/Athletes" is a good idea, but to be honest, I doubt there's any sport native to Kurdistan. Athletes, yes.
ZAZALÄNDER: Sory bud this Map(Karte) is not Correktly, I am one Zaza not Kurdo and my Land is ZAZALAND and not kurdistan..
whay say the kurd to may contry´kurdistan ?
According to this source [8], Kurdistan is not part of Iranian plateau. So I removed the category. Heja Helweda 23:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The ending of —ene was the Greek suffix for satrapies, as the ending of —stan in the word Kurdistan is the Kurdish suffix for toponyms meaning 'land of', however the original Kurdish equivalent for Kurdistan used by Kurds themselves, has been the word 'Kurdewarî'.
I am an Kurd and i have never called Kurdistan for Kurdewari, which means kurdish culture. We Kurds call our country for Kurdistan (Kordestan) and have never called Kurdewari. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.140.221.115 ( talk) 19:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC).
Remove map this article! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StANDby007 ( talk • contribs) 11:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC).