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I dont think 2015 Kumanovo shootings is an appropriate article name for this incident. Most articles titles "(insert location) shootings" refer to incidents where an individual (or a small group) has massacred civilians. This is not the case here where there is a group of militants fighting the government of macedonia. Al Jazeera has called this a battle, which it is given that it is a pitched conflict between two armed opposing groups. I think the article should be titled as such. See here [ [1]] XavierGreen ( talk) 22:50, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Should the the title of this article be Battle of Kumanovo (2015), 2015 Kumanovo shootings, or 2015 Kumanovo clashes?
Since virtually all sources used on this page were released while this event was still going on and as much of the information regarding this event has still not been released (ie complete casualty figures, identity of the militants, ect) the current event tag should stay on this page until better sources become available. The purpose of the tag is not only to signify that the event is ongoing, but as is stated in the tag to warn readers that the sources used may be unreliable because they were created while the event was ongoing. XavierGreen ( talk) 04:48, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Phill24th ( talk). 04:59, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I think a parent article is needed for these incidents. Maybe Albanian separatism in Macedonia. FPSTurkey ( talk) 11:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Seriously, its just information that serves no purpose to the reader. D3RP4L3RT ( talk) 01:44, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't we remove the POW templates, considering that this was an isolated police operation, not an armed conflict part of a larger war. - Phill24th ( talk). 07:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
AnulBanul, 19999o, Phill24th there are ministers who resigned from they post after the violence in Kumanovo,I think we should add them on the article. Lindi29 ( talk) 16:00, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
The article mentions the scandal that began, with the protests taking place recently. Should we create a separate "2015 Macedonian protests" article for those? Here are some news articles on it:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/05/us-macedonia-government-protests-idUSKBN0NQ2BH20150505
http://news.yahoo.com/least-19-injured-macedonia-anti-government-protest-225012578.html
— Славянский патриот ( talk) 02:05, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Were there 10 or 14 militants killed during the shootings? - Phill24th ( talk). 16:50, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
10 dead 28 captured 1 escaped & around 40 gunmen in total estimated official macedonian figures i applied all the sourced. 94.174.95.56 ( talk) 21:00, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
We need to change/update the Kumanovo shootings#Event section. It's been the same since the time the conflict was still going on. It uses mostly Serbian sources, and most of the claims turned out not to be correct. - Phill24th ( talk). 13:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. ( non-admin closure) — Amakuru ( talk) 16:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Kumanovo shootings →
2015 Kumanovo shootings – The
2001 insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia included shootings in Kumanovo (see article), and therefore 2015 needs to be added to this title, in order to disambiguate it from the earlier events.
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The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm ( talk) 20:25, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Kumanovo clashes → 2015 Kumanovo clashes – These certainly weren't the only clashes to have taken place in Kumanovo throughout history (for example, clashes took place during the 2001 insurgency in Macedonia). Amanuensis Balkanicus ( talk) 17:26, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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I dont think 2015 Kumanovo shootings is an appropriate article name for this incident. Most articles titles "(insert location) shootings" refer to incidents where an individual (or a small group) has massacred civilians. This is not the case here where there is a group of militants fighting the government of macedonia. Al Jazeera has called this a battle, which it is given that it is a pitched conflict between two armed opposing groups. I think the article should be titled as such. See here [ [1]] XavierGreen ( talk) 22:50, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Should the the title of this article be Battle of Kumanovo (2015), 2015 Kumanovo shootings, or 2015 Kumanovo clashes?
Since virtually all sources used on this page were released while this event was still going on and as much of the information regarding this event has still not been released (ie complete casualty figures, identity of the militants, ect) the current event tag should stay on this page until better sources become available. The purpose of the tag is not only to signify that the event is ongoing, but as is stated in the tag to warn readers that the sources used may be unreliable because they were created while the event was ongoing. XavierGreen ( talk) 04:48, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Phill24th ( talk). 04:59, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I think a parent article is needed for these incidents. Maybe Albanian separatism in Macedonia. FPSTurkey ( talk) 11:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Seriously, its just information that serves no purpose to the reader. D3RP4L3RT ( talk) 01:44, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't we remove the POW templates, considering that this was an isolated police operation, not an armed conflict part of a larger war. - Phill24th ( talk). 07:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
AnulBanul, 19999o, Phill24th there are ministers who resigned from they post after the violence in Kumanovo,I think we should add them on the article. Lindi29 ( talk) 16:00, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
The article mentions the scandal that began, with the protests taking place recently. Should we create a separate "2015 Macedonian protests" article for those? Here are some news articles on it:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/05/us-macedonia-government-protests-idUSKBN0NQ2BH20150505
http://news.yahoo.com/least-19-injured-macedonia-anti-government-protest-225012578.html
— Славянский патриот ( talk) 02:05, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Were there 10 or 14 militants killed during the shootings? - Phill24th ( talk). 16:50, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
10 dead 28 captured 1 escaped & around 40 gunmen in total estimated official macedonian figures i applied all the sourced. 94.174.95.56 ( talk) 21:00, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
We need to change/update the Kumanovo shootings#Event section. It's been the same since the time the conflict was still going on. It uses mostly Serbian sources, and most of the claims turned out not to be correct. - Phill24th ( talk). 13:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. ( non-admin closure) — Amakuru ( talk) 16:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Kumanovo shootings →
2015 Kumanovo shootings – The
2001 insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia included shootings in Kumanovo (see article), and therefore 2015 needs to be added to this title, in order to disambiguate it from the earlier events.
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The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm ( talk) 20:25, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Kumanovo clashes → 2015 Kumanovo clashes – These certainly weren't the only clashes to have taken place in Kumanovo throughout history (for example, clashes took place during the 2001 insurgency in Macedonia). Amanuensis Balkanicus ( talk) 17:26, 2 May 2020 (UTC)